I'm thinking of picking up an LWRC M6A3. They will, of course, build it to NJ legal spec and that involves a muzzle brake. I haven't nailed down what brake they use by default but I was wondering if anyone has any knowledge of the Surefire muzzle brakes and whether they're worth $150.

 

I figure if it's going to be permanently attached (at least until I get the hell out of the People's Republik of Joisey) I want to have something that enhances the performance of the rifle....or at least doesn't detract from its performance. Thoughts? Any other brakes I should look at?

No first hand experience but from what I have seen the PWS FSC 556 actually cuts down flash better than most other flash suppressors but is not classified as such so it's NJ legal. It also serves as a muzzle brake.

 

FNH is shipping civilian SCAPs with that device so it can't be too shabby.

 

http://www.skdtac.com/PWS_FSC556_Flash_ ... ws.103.htm

I love how the description of the PWS part is a "flash suppressing compensator" but the remarks say the BATFE doesn't think it's a flash suppressor. Guess the latter is all I need to be legal.

 

I wonder, however, how effective it can be in keeping flash out of the line of sight of the optics when it allows expansion of gasses in that direction. At least the Surefire appears to vent the gasses to the sides.

Supposedly one of the best according to this 8-)

 

http://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=12503

BTW. I also want to get a gas piston upper and LWRC is one of my options. Initially I was iffy about them because their barrels and chamber are not chrome lined but I found out they're cold hammer forged and nitrocarbonizing treated so they wear better and last longer.

 

Now I am seriously considering either a M6A2 or M6A3 upper. If you're having them build you a rifle, what stock are you consider getting?

 

What's the main difference between M6A2 and A3? Is it just the A3 has adjustable gas piston?

Now I am seriously considering either a M6A2 or M6A3 upper. If you're having them build you a rifle, what stock are you consider getting?

 

I was planning on taking the standard stock. I played with one (unpinned) on an M6A2 at Shore Shot and I liked it. Seemed to have a lot less slop than some others I've tried.

 

[What's the main difference between M6A2 and A3? Is it just the A3 has adjustable gas piston?

 

That's the most important difference. The length and stroke of the piston is different too. But the main reasons I'm willing to pay the few bucks extra for the A3 over the A2 is that the rails are a bit shorter (lighter swing weight) and the forward sight is fixed to the barrel as opposed to the rail. With respect to BUIS accuracy I think that is an inherently more stable design.

I'll be following this post enthusiastically. I've been thinking about adding that compensator to my AR15's. I did notice when looking at ADCO's site (at least I think it was ADCO's site....may have been CMMG), they specifically mention this compensator as one they don't like pinning since the steel is so hard.

I'll be following this post enthusiastically. I've been thinking about adding that compensator to my AR15's. I did notice when looking at ADCO's site (at least I think it was ADCO's site....may have been CMMG), they specifically mention this compensator as one they don't like pinning since the steel is so hard.

 

Are you referring to the Surefire or the PWS?

I'll be following this post enthusiastically. I've been thinking about adding that compensator to my AR15's. I did notice when looking at ADCO's site (at least I think it was ADCO's site....may have been CMMG), they specifically mention this compensator as one they don't like pinning since the steel is so hard.

 

Are you referring to the Surefire or the PWS?

 

I may be wrong, but I thought I remembered the Surefire compensator as the one mentioned. Obviously if it's coming on the rifle already in an NJ legal format from LWRC, there's nothing to worry about.

 

I've been giving serious thought to a Bravo Tactical midlenght 16" upper and then having this compensator installed. I don't believe Bravo Tactical does in house work to make the unit NJ legal. Again, could be wrong though.

I've been giving serious thought to a Bravo Tactical midlenght 16" upper and then having this compensator installed. I don't believe Bravo Tactical does in house work to make the unit NJ legal. Again, could be wrong though.

If by Bravo Tactical you mean Bravo Company, then no, they don't do any work on the guns. I have one of their midlength uppers and I had it mailed directly to PK90 who attached a PWS for me and then he mailed the upper to me.

 

I did notice when looking at ADCO's site (at least I think it was ADCO's site....may have been CMMG), they specifically mention this compensator as one they don't like pinning since the steel is so hard.

Are you referring to the Surefire or the PWS here? ADCO company did my other AR which also has a PWS FSC.

I've been giving serious thought to a Bravo Tactical midlenght 16" upper and then having this compensator installed. I don't believe Bravo Tactical does in house work to make the unit NJ legal. Again, could be wrong though.

If by Bravo Tactical you mean Bravo Company, then no, they don't do any work on the guns. I have one of their midlength uppers and I had it mailed directly to PK90 who attached a PWS for me and then he mailed the upper to me..

 

Yup, Bravo Company is who I meant...thanks. How much more $ was it to have the addition work done?

 

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Are you referring to the Surefire or the PWS here? ADCO company did my other AR which also has a PWS FSC.

 

T'was the Surefire. I'll check when I get home as I can't access the majority of firearm related sites from work.

Yup, Bravo Company is who I meant...thanks. How much more $ was it to have the addition work done?

Shoot PK90 a PM and he'll fill you on the details. Very reasonable prices. In my particular case, the only thing that was needed was to perm attach the PWS. Depending on which model you get you may also need to have the bayo lug ground down.

 

 

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T'was the Surefire. I'll check when I get home as I can't access the majority of firearm related sites from work.

Interesting. Like I said, they did one of my ARs. Didn't know they were reluctant to do surefires. They're also very good and I wouldn't hesitate to use them again for any work.

Yup, Bravo Company is who I meant...thanks. How much more $ was it to have the addition work done?

Shoot PK90 a PM and he'll fill you on the details. Very reasonable prices. In my particular case, the only thing that was needed was to perm attach the PWS. Depending on which model you get you may also need to have the bayo lug ground down.

 

 

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T'was the Surefire. I'll check when I get home as I can't access the majority of firearm related sites from work.

Interesting. Like I said, they did one of my ARs. Didn't know they were reluctant to do surefires. They're also very good and I wouldn't hesitate to use them again for any work.

 

Yup, just checked this morning. They do install the Surefires, but they do make mention that the Surefires are harder to do because of they have very tough steel. Do you remember what you paid for the install?

I wanna say $30 to attach the PWS FSC (which I had to send to them because they don't stock it), $15 to grind down the ears on the bayonet lug, and $35 to pin the stock. It was almost a year ago tho, so I might be off by a few bux here and there. There's a link on their site that lists the prices, and what you see there is what you'll pay. Of course, you'll have to pay shipping to them and back to you. Turn around time is 7-10 days I believe. They're a great company to deal with. Very responsive to emails and a lot of people in ban states use them.