Went over to ba around noonish and was greeted @the front door by a few fellers with "special agent" shirts. A sign n ext to the door said "notice of seizure". Any ideas what was up?

Seriously?

SCANDAL.

Everything's fine, they're still open.

On my droid but if this link works here is a pic from ba when I was there.

 

https://m.google.com/app/buzz?source=mo ... 5178934713

I want one of those t-shirts.

What's the story with BA? Anybody?

 

You can post the link directly. I can edit this out if you don't want it this way.

On my droid but if this link works here is a pic from ba when I was there.

 

https://m.google.com/app/buzz?source=mo ... 5178934713

 

Did they let you in, or did you not try to get in?

I already called over and hence my earlier post that everything's fine. Was a mistake. Everything is fine. Its open.

Was a mistake.

 

 

:? pretty lame mistake..

A mistake?? :?

Man, this place can't catch a break! i'm sure the surrounding business's are loving all the "special attention" BA is getting..

Marketing 101.... All publicity is good publicity. =)

Marketing 101.... All publicity is good publicity. =)

 

Isn't it more like negative publicity is free publicity?

Marketing 101.... All publicity is good publicity. =)

 

Isn't it more like negative publicity is free publicity?

 

that too.

what did he not dooo..

So did anyone read the notice? or find out why the notice was posted?

Malsua, no problem on re-posting the picture - I'd of posted it that way but was out all day and trying to use my phone (droid) to post and I just wasn't doing well at using it.

 

Regulator72, as I opened the passenger side door one of the "special agents" at the door unlocked it and poked his head out to tell us to leave and try coming back in a few hours and they should be back open. He was friendly enough about it but then again I dress like GI Joe so maybe he was just being friendly thinking I was more than your average gun toting NJGFer? Whatever the issue is/was, the "special agents" didn't seem to be in a panic or clinging to their guns as if an active shooter was on the scene. I was able to count/see 4 agents between the doors but not much else. I also couldn't make out which agency these "special agents" might have been with but they did all have Stinkin' Badges (and tacticool drop leg holster setups). I'd of assumed they were just at the range to qualify, train or something but the orange sign seems to indicate something different.

 

As an interesting aside, there were no police cars/trucks/vans/etc in the parking lot. As you can see from the reflection in the glass, it was just my brother's car pulled right up in front and the jeep in the reflection next to him was his friend who came with us. To our right was Phil's (?) Vette and a greenish SUV(?). The rest of the lot down to the next business in the plaza was empty and none of the cars down that end looked "official" either. Not sure if these "special agents" got dropped off and their ride left, or if they were parked around back, or if they flew into the airport and walked over for that matter... I found the whole thing quite odd really.

 

That all said, as a member of BA and a frequent visitor of BA who brings guests and new shooters as often as possible, I think Chad's "a mistake?" question is kind of a legit one and I'll be curious if anyone gets the real story or if I inquire next time I go, if anyone will provide some reasonable explanation. As a normal business, their business is their business and what they share or don't share is their call. BUT I'll offer this much to think about because it's the kinds of ideas that the four of us who were going were discussing when we saw "special agents" at the local shooting range, where we've bought several handguns, rounds of ammo and spent countless hours "training".

 

(In Robert Stack Voice)

Scenario #1: Federal Agents have seized all records from BA pertaining to who has taken a training class and/or even just purchased range time. Anyone having done either is now a member of the an anti-government militia and is under federal investigation and has been added to the no fly list for good measure. Now this is CLEARLY the most unlikely case and not the case at all but then I suppose we couldn't imagine this seemingly silly scenario if recent "news" stories and the political climate didn't make such thoughts possible. We discussed this one in depth, for the giggle, the longest.

 

Scenario #2: Someone committed some armed felony and was stupid enough to leave the receipt for a box of ammo in their pocket when they were caught. The "special agents" were seizing surveillance video or records of some sort of said criminal purchasing ammo as evidence of some sort. Again, unlikely as I doubt too many criminals are legally purchasing their ammo from the local range. Then again, I could be wrong as I don't know any criminals nor do I know where they would obtain ammo otherwise. This was a fun scenario to chat about, but lacked a certain entertainment value of scenario #1.

 

Scenario #3: Related to the suicide a few weeks ago, special agents were seizing a firearm/records/video/etc - more likely, but seems its been a while and they would have done this already long ago. It's also possible that some family member filed some lawsuit against BA and these "special agents" were working with that case. This seemed most likely but the least fun to talk about so we didn't imagine many fun details.

 

Scenario #4: The "special agents" were some of you guys playing an April Fools gag a few days late. - This was quickly dismissed as being a dump, too little too late idea.

 

Scenario #5: Unsolved Mysteries Scenario Recreation in progress. Without a doubt this is the only reasonable explanation :liar:

 

So anyhow, as I said, I do hope some reasonable explanation is available if not just to calm the gossip and/or ease any paranoia because I think I've demonstrated the range of possible thoughts/worries from really serious to really stupid. If nothing else, I'd just like to be sure that ATF hasn't added me or any other BA members to the terrorist watch list or something stupid and/or investigates any/all BA members for anything related to firearms/ammo purchases where we believe we've done the right and legal things but maybe some "mistake" in paperwork at the range equates to some law(s) being broken with our permits/records/etc.

 

Either way, we ended up down the street at SS for a few hours and assuming nothing major is going on, I'll probably stick with visiting BA for the foreseeable future. The guys at SS seemed alright, range was clean and well maintained and we had no problems or complaints, I just feel more comfortable at BA, maybe just because I'm used to going there.

The real story is simple. The accountant made a mistake and it was a state tax audit. So swat went in to sweep and make sure it was safe and then IRS and ATF went in.

 

And no, its not a joke. Did you pay your taxes yet? You could be next lol

The real story is simple. The accountant made a mistake and it was a state tax audit. So swat went in to sweep and make sure it was safe and then IRS and ATF went in.

 

And no, its not a joke. Did you pay your taxes yet? You could be next lol

 

This is the true story and not a joke? Sickening if so...

I thought chad was next ?

I thought chad was next ?

 

 

Or Maksim?

I thought chad was next ?

 

Does Chad have to claim all the Spent Brass as income?

you all will be getting visited you signed BA's disclosure 20 times to many..

As an interesting aside, there were no police cars/trucks/vans/etc in the parking lot.

 

That's because Special Agents always rappel down from the black helicopters!

 

 

--Daniel