Call me paranoid but...

 

After reading the article of ammo "popping" in a fire and how its probably safe for a fully geared up fireman to be near it, its probably not as safe when its only a foot away from you at the range when perhaps the only "gear" you have is a pit-stained, thread-bare t-shirt like Ray Ray wears.

 

Weird Stuff Happens

When it comes to shooting, never say never.

 

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Ejected empty shell casing strikes primer of live ammo in ammo tray below.

 

http://www.gunsandammo.com/content/weir ... mode=flush

 

 

Computers, the Internet and modern education have changed so much of the world. Language used to have meaning. "Once in a blue moon" was an actual period of time. Today many of us use the term "one in a million" rather lightly.

 

A million seconds is just under two years' time. A million days haven't even passed since the cornerstone of the Acropolis was laid down. Your brother-in-law getting promoted at work is not a "one in a million" event. Winning the lottery is rarer than that.

 

However, if you do something a million times, you can count on rare things happening. If you plan to stick with something long enough, you should protect yourself against even the rare stuff. The following didn't happen to me but to another IPSC shooter, who I have no reason to doubt in the slightest.

 

Let me set the scene for you: It is a cold winter (they're all brass-monkey cold up here), and my friend is practicing on an indoor range. He's shooting factory .40 ammo through his Glock for practice and to provide more once-fired brass to feed his reloading habit. To make the task easier, he has slid the boxes of ammo open and has the Styrofoam trays laying on the shooting bench with the ammo still in them. Those who have shot on an indoor range know the setup. Those of you lucky enough to have lived in warm climes with plenty of open space might not know it, but each shooting position is sided by barriers. It is like standing in a broom closet and shooting out of the open door with a waist-high bookshelf in front of you.

 

Things proceed swimmingly, as they always have on these occasions, until one of his shots is closely followed by a loud pop next to him. The Styrofoam trays scatter to the floor like cockroaches in a cheap apartment when you turn on the lights. His first thought is Oh my God, the idiots in the next booth had an AD. The second is They shot my ammo.

 

Not at all the situation, and you in the back row--don't even think of blaming the Glock. For those who have not leapt ahead, imagine this: You have a shelf full of trays of ammo, primer-side up, with empty brass rattling around every time you shoot. What are the chances that one of them will strike a primer hard enough to set it off? "One in a million." There you go, overestimating the odds.

 

Every single one of us who has shot on an indoor range has done exactly as my buddy had done. But this time he won the lottery.

 

Now, I know some of you are saying, "No way, I've gotta throw the BS flag on this one." Should I mention the witnesses, all of whom I know and trust? And the evidence, which they sent me?

 

Look at the bullet in the photo: Crimp mark but no rifling or pull marks. Not fired, and removed from the case not by being pulled. Look closely at the primer of the fired round. Notice the crescent-shaped impression on it. Look at the other case. Notice that the rim of the second case has two gouges on it, exactly corresponding to the primer-pocket size, and the crescent shape in the fired case. No doubt about it--the empty came down with enough force and exactly in the right orientation to ignite a primer. The Styrofoam tray is split in two, with extra pieces busted off, with very slight scorchmarks at one location. When it discharged, the bullet tried to go downward and smacked the Styrofoam tray like a pro cage fighter hits a drunken fratboy, scattering the two pieces of empty brass, tray parts, extra ammo and other gear on the floor. Where Carl had to find it and pick it all up to send to me.

 

I'm not a trained evidence technician, nor have I been asked to appear on "CSI" (if they do ask me, I'm going to have to insist on appearing on the original, not the Miami version

Hey, sh!t happens!

 

btw, what kinda T-shirt do I wear?

Im not saying impossible, Im saying Im sceptical. I wonder if he had a baffle strike on that shot and it was ricochet? Ive been hit with probably a ton of brass from rifles..meh. Ive been hit with splatter/ricochet 3 times. I bled 3 times!

Sorry, I ain't buying that! I wouldn't venture a guess what set those bullets off but the edge of a casing didn't do it.Being a lefty I have been hit with a number of casings from all calibers and never got any bruse in my skin enough to dent a brass casing or pop a primer.

:shock:

 

Even if it's not 100% legit it sure makes me want to change my habits...

I think this is one of the reasons why they tell you not too carry loose ammo in your pockets.

Simple solution, keep your rounds primers down in the box. =P

I think this is one of the reasons why they tell you not too carry loose ammo in your pockets.

 

 

Reminds me of a story my wife tells.

 

Her ex boyfriend liked to use wooden matches to light his cigs. One days he was out playing soccer with a box in his sweat pants and they caught fire.

 

She saw him running and noticed he was trailing smoke.

 

anyway, please continue.... :oops:

I think this is one of the reasons why they tell you not too carry loose ammo in your pockets.

 

 

Reminds me of a story my wife tells.

 

Her ex boyfriend liked to use wooden matches to light his cigs. One days he was out playing soccer with a box in his sweat pants and they caught fire.

 

She saw him running and noticed he was trailing smoke.

 

anyway, please continue.... :oops:

 

I heard a similar story of change plus 9 volt battery. Both inadvertently put into the same pocket.

 

I heard a similar story of change plus 9 volt battery. Both inadvertently put into the same pocket.

My uncle sort of experienced that once. I was helping him paint the inside of his house and he took down the smoke detector and removed the old 9v battery and put it in his pocket with his keys. He was sitting on the floor cutting in around the mouldings when all of a sudden he jumped up off the floor and violently dug the contents of his pocket out and thew it on the ground. Apparently the battery had shorted on his keys and began to painfully overheat but no spontaneous combustion or anything.

There is no possible way. Someone is looking for attention.

There is no possible way. Someone is looking for attention.

When I was a kid I watched my friend's broher try to dunk a basketball by leaping off a snow mound, but he slammed it off the rim. The ball popped up into the air and as he was swinging from the rim he put his feet together and kicked the ball as it was coming down. At this point his legs swung up perpendicular to the ground and he lost his grip. He landed on his butt and stared in amazement as the ball he kicked went swish into the net. Could he do do it again? Maybe once in a million tries...

 

Not to say that a shell could set off the primer, but hey you never know.

+1 for not buying it.

 

There is no way a 40 casing can get in a small primer pocket to set off a round.

Never mind that ejected brass just doesn't have the energy to set a primer off.

+1 for not buying it.

 

There is no way a 40 casing can get in a small primer pocket to set off a round.

Never mind that ejected brass just doesn't have the energy to set a primer off.

 

Would the combination of heat and pressure make a difference or is it only force that would set it off?

Would the combination of heat and pressure make a difference or is it only force that would set it off?

 

 

Not sure where you think the heat nor pressure required would be coming from. The casing is hot to the touch, but it's not nearly hot enough to deform metal. Just isn't happening.

 

And it is also far too light to make such a dent by falling a mere few feet. Such an impact would have required more force. Also, the notches in the rim appear to be machined rather than impacted.

 

All kinds of folks out there looking to get noticed for something, legit or not.