While this does sounds like an unavoidable accident, and it happened in the shooting port.

 

However, I do believe allowing people to uncase their arms at the rear table and then walk around with them uncased while out of the shooting port is a recipe for disaster. Admittedly, the forum shooters are some of safest shooters around, but guilty of this all the time. I know at SS and many other indoor ranges, if you step out of the port with an uncased gun, you are asked to pack up and leave!

 

Yep, we do that all the time, only seldom though do I see muzzles being swept.... I know personally I am concious of keeping the muzzle point up or down when transporting from the back table to the front. In any case, for rifles, i think having it uncased there brought to the port beats having to shoot at the port with a large rifle case on the floor, waiting to trip someone next port over.

Just because you uncase it at the port doesn't mean you cant put the case on the table.

 

Yep, we do that all the time, only seldom though do I see muzzles being swept.... I know personally I am conscious of keeping the muzzle point up or down when transporting from the back table to the front. In any case, for rifles, i think having it uncased there brought to the port beats having to shoot at the port with a large rifle case on the floor, waiting to trip someone next port over.

 

As I stated, the forum shooters are generally very safety conscious and while I have never seen a member sweep anyone, I have seen others do it too often there (both in the store and in the range)! What's wrong with uncasing it at the port and putting the case on the back table?

I do uncase in the port, handguns are a no brainer, open the actions up and leave'em on the table, then put the case on the back table. Most often I see rifles uncased at the back table. I don't shoot rifle at BA, except on one or two occasions and uncased in the port, moved the rifle to the rack at the back, muzzle up, after locking the action open and engaging safety. I do agree that BA RSOs need to show the flag and get more inquisitive inside more often, if only to get across the message that no sloppiness will be tolerated. The latest ND incident was preventable ( I wasnt there either, but it seems to me an error in judgement, not intentionally, really, but a loaded (and cocked?) very heavy firearm was set down on those weak-ass port shelves and dropped to the floor.

Yea, those port shelves are terrible, and I often feel a bit uneasy when I un-case and set my rifle on it (though I prop the rifle on the reinforced portion or on the ground [cased and unloaded] with it pointing down range regardless). So, I could imagine putting anything heavier on them would trigger the same type of logical response... and that an accident like this could have been preventable.

 

But hey, glad to hear people are OK.

Why don't any of the ranges offer racks/storage in the booth, a simple little base and strap or whatever up higher to hold the muzzle?? the tables/shelves always seem just a bit too high to lean most rifles on against the wall...

Why don't any of the ranges offer racks/storage in the booth, a simple little base and strap or whatever up higher to hold the muzzle?? the tables/shelves always seem just a bit too high to lean most rifles on against the wall...

 

Good idea. I dropped my K31 last week because there is nowhere good to put it in the shooting booth.

It's funny becuase I almost always watch people at the range with longarms to see if they have a better solution than the old, lean against the wall balancing act.. haven't seen one yet :-), something so simple..

Would this work - http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/cb.aspx?a=602772

 

yeah, simple, easy and cheap.. or a small wood platform mounted low, some velcro type straps mounted up a bit higher to hold the muzzle, done. what could that cost? 5, 10 bucks at the most? This way, muzzle pointed down range, or UP at all times when in the booth.. not that this would have stopped the issue at hand..

This wasn't port design or even something like that clip would prevent. The guy was in the act of shooting, turned to talk to his friend, put the rifle on the port bench on a diagonal and it fell immediately and double fired. The first round hit the back wall, the second went through the port wall, through both sides of the garbage can, off wall twice and then into the guys leg. He's lucky he didn't get hit himself. And against the wall, barrel up is always the recommended place to rest it unloaded. If its loaded you don't rest it anywhere. Unload it if you're going to rest it anywhere.

 

Every Tuesday for the last month and half has had something happen. Suicide, State tax audit, ATF audit, this... So now they're closed Tuesdays. And both shooting incidents were unavoidable and cannot be blamed on the staff for being lax.

Are you serious about being closed on Tuesdays?

Closed Tuesdays? What the fuck?

 

Closing will not stop dumb people from being dumb. It will give them a bigger crowd to injure the next day.

 

Has any thought been given to giving a Mandatory Safety Class with Membership or a briefing when renting?

:text-yeahthat:

 

I'm not sure I understand the logic.

That sucks that there closed on Tuesdays. One of the great things about BA is there hours.

WSL, is that a joke or we being serious?

Anything further on this ??? (bump)

BTW... What's involved in becoming an RSO?...Seems like a good idea.

 

OK, I'm a little late to this thread but if you're already a Certified NRA instructor, you can get your Range Safety Officer (RSO) creds very easily.

 

http://www.nrahq.org/education/training/rso_val.asp

 

--Daniel

Ok so I called BA today, And yes they are now closed on Tuesdays

Ok so I called BA today, And yes they are now closed on Tuesdays

 

well that really sucks! i just paid like $200 to join last week to start coming on Tuesdays with the forum crew. Gonna have to see about a refund then.

John, i knew the boat becuase I am the NJ Silverton dealer, Comstock Yacht Sales.. I have a 2010 36c sitting right outside my office that i look at all day long

 

 

Bought a pursuit through you guys a few years back 30 offshore