I am heading to Vegas next week and a friend of mine out there (who actually works at a gun store but isnt the owner) has been working on an AR but now may want to go in a different direction and may let me have it for an outrageously cheap price. I know if he ships it here I need to go through a FFL, but if I am out there and we complete the transfer in Nevada (with all the NJ forms) can I just send it to my house via UPS?

 

Follow up: If I buy something at a gunstore, can they ship it to me if I complete the transfer there or do I need to ship it myself.

I am heading to Vegas next week and a friend of mine out there (who actually works at a gun store but isnt the owner) has been working on an AR but now may want to go in a different direction and may let me have it for an outrageously cheap price. I know if he ships it here I need to go through a FFL, but if I am out there and we complete the transfer in Nevada (with all the NJ forms) can I just send it to my house via UPS?

 

Follow up: If I buy something at a gunstore, can they ship it to me if I complete the transfer there or do I need to ship it myself.

 

I think it can be shipped to yourself as long as it is air shipped and from you, to you and declared as a firearm. Like...ship it on Monday as 2 day air, fly home Tuesday, be home on Wed for the pickup.

Why not take it with you?

Or...break it down into all the parts, ship everything but the lower and put the lower in your check bag.

Why not take it with you?

 

I just assumed it would be ridiculously complicated to go through the airport with me.

 

I assumed the same about shipping eveyrthing but the lower receiver. I would be waiting for some over zealous agent to show they made a big bust.

Why not take it with you?

 

I just assumed it would be ridiculously complicated to go through the airport with me.

 

I assumed the same about shipping eveyrthing but the lower receiver. I would be waiting for some over zealous agent to show they made a big bust.

 

It's not really. You just need a secure locking(non TSA locks) hard case that goes into your check bag and locks(TSA approved) for your check bag. You tell the agent when you're checking in, fill out the tag and you're on your way. I've never personally done it but I've been with people who have. It took an extra 5-7 minutes.

I just looked it up, seems really easy, I may have to give it a shot.

I am heading to Vegas next week and a friend of mine out there (who actually works at a gun store but isnt the owner) has been working on an AR but now may want to go in a different direction and may let me have it for an outrageously cheap price. I know if he ships it here I need to go through a FFL, but if I am out there and we complete the transfer in Nevada (with all the NJ forms) can I just send it to my house via UPS?

 

Follow up: If I buy something at a gunstore, can they ship it to me if I complete the transfer there or do I need to ship it myself.

Face to face transfers are NOT allowede between Out-of-State residents. Your transfer would have to go therough an FFL, either there, or here. transporting on the aircraft isnt a problem, Every Airline has it's own rules, and how they want it checked in, see their individual websites for them.

I am heading to Vegas next week and a friend of mine out there (who actually works at a gun store but isnt the owner) has been working on an AR but now may want to go in a different direction and may let me have it for an outrageously cheap price. I know if he ships it here I need to go through a FFL, but if I am out there and we complete the transfer in Nevada (with all the NJ forms) can I just send it to my house via UPS?

 

Follow up: If I buy something at a gunstore, can they ship it to me if I complete the transfer there or do I need to ship it myself.

Face to face transfers are NOT allowede between Out-of-State residents. Your transfer would have to go therough an FFL, either there, or here. transporting on the aircraft isnt a problem, Every Airline has it's own rules, and how they want it checked in, see their individual websites for them.

 

That blows a hole in that and makes no sense. Does that mean if go to a gun show in PA I can't buy something in the parking lot.

 

I guess we can go to his job and have them do the transfer which kills an hour out of my fun weekend at least

Correct. Out of state purchases are to be only from a dealer.

I am heading to Vegas next week and a friend of mine out there (who actually works at a gun store but isnt the owner) has been working on an AR but now may want to go in a different direction and may let me have it for an outrageously cheap price. I know if he ships it here I need to go through a FFL, but if I am out there and we complete the transfer in Nevada (with all the NJ forms) can I just send it to my house via UPS?

 

Follow up: If I buy something at a gunstore, can they ship it to me if I complete the transfer there or do I need to ship it myself.

Face to face transfers are NOT allowede between Out-of-State residents. Your transfer would have to go therough an FFL, either there, or here. transporting on the aircraft isnt a problem, Every Airline has it's own rules, and how they want it checked in, see their individual websites for them.

 

That blows a hole in that and makes no sense. Does that mean if go to a gun show in PA I can't buy something in the parking lot.

I guess we can go to his job and have them do the transfer which kills an hour out of my fun weekend at least

 

 

That is EXACTLY what it means, that is a Federal Law, not an NJ law BTW.

Thanks for the advice. I am actually grateful, I would hate to explain to my wife why I am in jail for something so stupid. I am shocked I didnt know that, but now I can pass on the knowledge to others as equally ignorant.

Thanks for the advice. I am actually grateful, I would hate to explain to my wife why I am in jail for something so stupid. I am shocked I didnt know that, but now I can pass on the knowledge to others as equally ignorant.

 

Yep, the federal sales regulations, everything from interstate sales, long gun / handgun sale rules, what an FFL is, what types of FFL allow the licensee to do what, what defines prohibited person, etc. is all in the Gun Control Act of 1968 in case you ever wanna look stuff up. There are state laws in addition as well, of course.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_Control_Act_of_1968

Thanks, going to give it a read, its funny everytime I think about donating my time to a 2a pro bono cause I am amazed at how little I know.

IMO, more knowledge can be gained by reading the ATF FAQs.

IMO, more knowledge can be gained by reading the ATF FAQs.

 

Yes, definitely.