NJgunowner86

Just because I don't like muzzle loaders either, doesn't mean I have no respect for them, same with benchrest guys. They're more than welcome to enjoy what they enjoy, it's not about that. I'm just saying, this guy wants to pretend all gun show, mil surp, 50+ year old, beat up, rust pitted, cosmo soaked Mosins are magical 1,000 yard target rifles. And then links a video of a guy using a hand picked, tuned 91/30 P/U Sniper as if it's an example of the average Mosin. If he'd only leave his little fantasy world, he'd find that I'm far from the only one who feels that way.

You might want to look back at the part where I mentioned having nothing against them at all? My dad owns an M44, it's pretty beat up. We love the old thing, I want my own when I have some spare cash, but please. Let's not pretend these guns are something they aren't. Now, ARs, those are shit

Here you go, 50 year old, at LEAST, rifle, shooting at 1000 yards. I have some nice Mosin's that came out of the cosmo, and cosmo is doing its job protecting the rifle. t2M1hC4c0tc Here you go, would love for you to tell that guy about his POS, counter bored, 100 year old rifle. :roll: The rifle is a little modified, but nothing that a weekend cant help. Bolt actions kick a**. Whats the longest you have shot? btw, not even the nicest AK can match a good Mosin in accuracy, never mind a remington 700, which is a sub moa rifle out of the box. Once again, looks like a former sniper rifle, hand picked, tuned and modified a bit. That's not the typical, gun show, piece of shit Mosin that the other 98% are. The scope mount and scope are worth more than the rifle itself. Probably well over double. I can't call his Mosin a piece of crap, because it isn't - but hey, don't worry, there's plenty of other Mosins out there to call pieces of crap. I call it a piece of crap in a loving way. As for your revelation about the AK not being accurate....no shit, Sherlock. It never was, and never will be, a target rifle. Anyone who sinks money into the fabled "milled receivers" or "heavy barrels" and puts $600 glass on an AK is a fool that bought into advertising hype. Anyone who thinks the AK is a target rifle ought to go back and do a little history about where and why the design for the rifle came from. Man sized group at 3-400 yards is all the AK was ever meant for. It was designed to take a beating, spit bullets, cost peanuts to build and maintain, and be able to be operated by a retard with 20 minutes of "training." I'm pretty sure indexing a front sight block in Romania involves throwing the rifle on the ground, and having a donkey stomp on it. Of course a 700 or a Mosin will be more accurate than an AK. Hey, why bother listing what guns are more accurate than an AK? Do yourself a favor, and just list what rifles aren't. As far as singling out my shooting abilities? 300 yards, and I can use my rifles for what they were designed for at that range - a silhouette sized group. But do you really wanna measure range lengths, like it's a penis or something? This is NJ. You have people here who have never shot past 25 yards. Lots of them. So if you think you're cool or something cause you've shot regular rifle distances, go out in the real world and brag about that, where you will promptly be laughed at for doing so. How about you? How far do you shoot, and what kind of groups do you get with your Mosins? I guess you never heard the old expression "To each, his own" ? I don't like bolt actions. Big whoop. I also don't like muzzle loaders, romantic comedies, xbox Live, shellfish, noisy neighbors, and red wine in the absence of food. Wanna flame me for all that too? But hey, do what you want. If you'd like, we can pretend that all Mosins are magical 1,000 yard target rifles :roll:

Yeah, I'm just not into that kind of shooting (long range bolt), sorry.

The Mosin Nagant is a rusty old piece of junk. It's like holding a two by four with a pipe wedged inside of it. They usually smell like crap from 5-6 decades of cosmoline, and are usually better off as a baseball bat than a target rifle. That said, for $250 you walk out the door with a rifle and 440 rounds of ammo capable of killing anything that walks this continent. It's also nice to know that if you decided to use it as a crowbar, or a boat oar for a little while, it will probably still shoot just fine. It's also a great way to arm a family of five for under $600. There's no reason not to own at least one of them IMO. Trust me, the rifle can shoot far better than you can. =) I would put up any mosin picked from a crate, in the competent hands of a good shooter, versus the top of the line 308, glass bedded, fully floated, in a modular AI stock, on a bench, with a 40x optic and an incompetent shooter. You do realize Russians about 40 years ago took a stock Mosin, made a few accurized modifications, and beat the Finns, Norwegians, and others in the winter Olympics? Dont let the price fool you. The price is simply a factor of market demand and supply, with the later being ALOT. Yeah, you're right. A piece of crap 50+ year old rifle with a barrel crown worn to all hell, counter-bored, full of rust and pits, covered in cosmoline, straight out the crate at a gun show is an Olympic quality target rifle :roll: Like I said, for blasting 100-200 yards your average gun show Mosin is just fine. I've seen some do some nice man sized groups around 400 yards or so. They're fun guns, but please, let's not pretend they are some wonderful magical rifle. Their appeal is their price and durability. PS I do not even own any expensive bolt actions, they're a waste IMO.

No, you cannot legally drive around with a box of hollow points in the trunk. I remember reading of a guy who was charged with "possession of a hollow nosed or dum dum bullet" because he had a single inert round turned into a keychain on him. If you are not engaged in the activities below, according to the law, you are guilty of a felony:

The Mosin Nagant is a rusty old piece of junk. It's like holding a two by four with a pipe wedged inside of it. They usually smell like crap from 5-6 decades of cosmoline, and are usually better off as a baseball bat than a target rifle. That said, for $250 you walk out the door with a rifle and 440 rounds of ammo capable of killing anything that walks this continent. It's also nice to know that if you decided to use it as a crowbar, or a boat oar for a little while, it will probably still shoot just fine. It's also a great way to arm a family of five for under $600. There's no reason not to own at least one of them IMO.

I can't stand that show because of that d-bag they have as an announcer "This [whispers] is a five....five...six....round....these guys....are special forces.....they're shooting....live rounds....[/whispers]" Oh yeah, tool bag? I normally call that "a trip to Walmart and the shooting range" but hey, you go on acting like you're so damn cool dude.

There are only a relative handful of firearms in the entire USA that are actual full auto AKs. Most of the semi auto "AKs" you see on gunbroker are one of the many, many "sporter" ones imported and the receivers will say MAK-90, MAADI, SLR, M70, etc. and all of the US built ones by companies like Lancaster, Century, etc. are all made from Soviet parts kits on USA made receivers like the NoDak SPUD and such. Most of these guns will be a various names like NDS-3 or MAADI on a 4473. A lot of these "AK"s you see on gunbroker do not even say AK on them at all and are just advertised that way. It is pretty uncommon, especially these days, to find a semi auto AK that says AK anywhere on it. Even some of the very early import ones, before various import laws were passed, as well as actual weapons, even say AK anywhere on it - ie Type 56, AMD 65, etc. It just shows the stupidity of these laws really. But, at least we can be happy we're not in Connecticut I guess.

If the brake is permanently attached, yes. Make sure the muzzle has no threads, and it is a muzzle brake not a flash hider.

$100 says a 3lb sledge will get into his gun closet. I really hope you never get robbed by a guy who owns a hammer.

And just how would anyone know which house has a gun and which doesn't? Do you have a big sign on your lawn or something? Also, where are you getting all this detailed psychological profiling and inside information from? How do you know what most thieves are after or not? If you think having a gun makes you a deterrent, maybe while you're home. But while you're away, leaving half a dozen guns in a closet than can be smashed through in seconds is about as naive as it gets if you ask me.

Welcome to last year. Jesus, does ANYONE bother to read the dates on web pages or no?

I was thinking of that, but they'd still be on my record here in NJ. I had that explained to me awhile back, when the Firearms Dept in Jersey City showed me a record of my S&W 686 being sold, thus being removed off my registration record and onto someone elses. Also did that when I sold a pair of cowboy guns out of state. Makes me wonder what other stuff they keep on record.... Ah, I see. Best to sell them then.

You could surrender them but if they are really just straight up junk, under federal law if you cut the receiver into pieces or just smash it to bits with a sledge hammer or something that'll do the trick. Not sure if NJ law views it any different or not. Good way to take out stress too lol.

It's not about the hinges, but what the hinges latch onto. You could put gigantic heavy duty steel hinges, but if they're just screwed into the 2x4 door frame or sheet rock that any goon could just bust with a hammer, I wouldn't trust it. Also, what are the walls filled with and what is on the other side of them? You could make a gigantic door but once again, if someone could just pound through a regular sheetrock wall and pull the guns out the back or sides. It will be very obvious to an intruder that something valuable is behind those doors. That right side wall looks like it can just be smashed through and grab the guns. It's a cool project you made and I hate to knock it, but I would not consider that secure enough to secure my firearms. But, that's your decision not mine. No safe is impervious to any sort of attack, of course. But my thing is this - if it can be opened or accessed with basic hand tools, I would not trust it.

Every time I eat there, I sit and think, wow, 5 miles away this would never happen. Just reminds me how screwed NJ is.

Yep, I am a member and love it there. Not to mention, you can't beat the gas station next door to the clubhouse. Draft beer and Boar's Head deli sandwiches, does it get any better, really?

Thank you, I hope it comes in handy.

The magazine wells are different as well. An AK-74 magazine will not fit into an AK 47 magazine well and vice versa. Typically, you see steel 47 and polymer 74 (which are not actually all polymer, they have steel framing in the lips, spine, and sides) but there are polymer and steel versions of both families of magazines. There are tons of different variations of magazines spanning many countries of origin. Here is an in depth guide to identifying AK-74 magazines, with country of origin and manufacturing info: http://home.comcast.net/~shooter2_indy/ ... guide.html Also here is a quickie picture: EDIT: And yeah, there are actual 5.56mm AK weapons as well, not just sporters. Some of the former Soviet countries that joined NATO, like Poland, use 5.56mm AKs.

I think part of the problem here is that you are looking at it from a LEO's point of view, while some of us are looking at it from a regular Joe Schmoe law abiding citizen who's about to get victimized point of view. I have a feeling this situation of "self defense" would not even come up if our castle doctrine is like some other states' doctrine. I'm curious about the statistics on burglaries in states where shoot to kill is the norm when someone tries to rob a place. You are 100% correct. HOWEVER the reality is that this IS NJ, and there is no Immunity for legitimate SD shootings. So you guys go right ahead, and use whatever terms you want on the spur of the moment. And when the Shittum's family's attorney paints you as some sort of ravening murderous scumbag who was just looking to kill in front of a typical NJ jury composed of Section 8 people who will sympathise more with the criminal then you, Dont come back here bitching. Actually, we won't have to worry about them coming back here bitching about it. When Shittum's mama's attorney gets done with the jury, the homeowner will be so god damned broke from the lawsuit they won't even be able to afford internet access anymore Rambo it up guys, keep beatin' those chests. I hope for all your sakes, that your house never gets broken into. Because you WILL find yourself in a world of shit acting and speaking the way you are now. It's easy to talk tough on the internet, it's a whole different story when you're dead asleep and someone smashes the back window in to rob/attack you.

Interesting, thanks for the detailed info. And yeah, that's exactly what I was getting at, what would be the effect if more and more manufacturers did what Ronnie did and said the bans effect everyone, not just Joe Schmoe, as a way of protest. I bet if 4-5 others joined in, it would definitely send a message.

Yes, battle sight setting. If you zero it at 25 meters on battle sight, you'll stay on a silhouette from 25-300 meters with it. http://www.novarata.net/Linx310/sightin.htm

Thanks for the response, it's helping me get over my worries. I tell buddies from other states (mostly VA) about my run in and they laugh at me with the response "Come on man, you serious a BB gun?" As for disclosing it, yes I put it down. I'd rather be honest and get rejected rather than be dishonest and still get rejected but look like a fool in the process. Thanks again Exactly. You should be good man. Best of luck with the permit and welcome to the sport. If I could offer a potential new gun enthusiast just one piece of advice: Hold onto your wallet!

Nice rifle. Yeah, you should be able to find a cleaning rod at a gun show. The front sight post is adjustable for both windage and elevation. To adjust for elevation you need the front sight adjustment tool, it clicks into the post like a screwdriver and screws it in and out. To adjust for windage the little drum inside the sight block that the post screws into can be drifted right or left. The tool for that looks like a clamp. http://www.amazon.com/BARSKA-Front-Sigh ... B001M5TSBO http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000B9 ... DWMSAADZHH Also just to let you know, if you ever decide to change stocks or anything, remember you have a milled receiver not a stamped one.