Okay, we got McDonald. Very cool. Now let's see who among us can agree on what we really want in the way of firearms law reform in New Jersey.

 

One of the giant roadblocks to forming a unified face to legislative reform in NJ is the fact that so many groups see such reform in vastly different ways. Even here, with such a statistically small sampling, many of us want different results.

 

Here's an informal poll. Select 3 things that you would like to see changed, eliminated, rewritten or adjusted. There are only 10 slots for the poll, so forgive me any omissions.

Ken,

 

It's a tough choice to make, however, I chose 5,6 and 9. Partly because I believe some of them will achieve some of the unmarked goals as well.

Ken,

 

It's a tough choice to make, however, I chose 5,6 and 9. Partly because I believe some of them will achieve some of the unmarked goals as well.

Same choices as mine.

FPID really doesn't bother me, it's a one time pain in the ass... but other than that im fine with it.. however I can't stand that everytime I want a handgun I have to wait for a permit.

 

EDIT: This was a very good post ken, good thinking.

 

You should actually have maks attach this somewhere in the forum, so new members can enter also.

 

2nd EDIT: ok you guys got me, I changed my vote.

FPID really doesn't bother me, it's a one time pain in the a**... but other than that im fine with it.. however I can't stand that everytime I want a handgun I have to wait for a permit.

Remember that FPID, although not a firearms registration per se, does put you on a list of potential firearms owners, and therefore could lead to profiling and future discrimination.

FPID really doesn't bother me, it's a one time pain in the a**... but other than that im fine with it.. however I can't stand that everytime I want a handgun I have to wait for a permit.

Remember that FPID, although not a firearms registration per se, does put you on a list of potential firearms owners, and therefore could lead to profiling and future discrimination.

 

Not to mention that it duplicates the efforts of a NICS check. Sure, it's a one time thing... I would be ok with it if my FPID were a CCW ID.

4,6,9... i have no problem with the FID process ( my experience was great though). I think it may act as a deterent which is fine by me. If you make the process too easy, too many wreckless people will have access to firearms.

5,6,9 also

3,5,6

Only 3 options?

5,6,9

Once 5 is accomplished, how could you enforce 3?????? Seems to me that 3 goes away then - wait, I'm applying logic to the Law, IN NJ. How foolish. :doh:

Once 5 is accomplished, how could you enforce 3?????? Seems to me that 3 goes away then - wait, I'm applying logic to the Law, IN NJ. How foolish. :doh:

Admittedly, a less than scientific poll. A couple of the items are mutually exclusive. Deal with it.

3

5

7

 

Although I have training, I don't think training should be a requirement for self defense. Encouraged, yes, even as far as to charge much more for permits without training, but still not a legal requirement. Call it a training discount.

5,6, and 9 as well.

To go along with #9, if some more NFA items were allowed in NJ... but that's really dwarfed by far larger concerns.

3

5

7

3,6,9 It's a bad idea to let people without some training have a ccw. I saw a woman in PA take her gun out of her holster, point the barrel down the line towards me, then proceed to rack the slide. Sorry, but I feel that falls under the mentally incompetent portion of our gun laws. People snicker at my .22 when they see the size of the hole in the paper. They're usually shooting a large caliber centerfire pistol from 5 yards. Their target usually looks like it was hit with a shotgun from across the street with bird shot. Some people are a danger without some instruction and practice (ie Ray Ray j/k buddy). There is big difference between shooting at a static target under calm circumstances and shooting at a moving target under pressure.

5, 6, 9. once the P2P's are gon OGAm will be unenforceable.

5

8

9

 

I should be able to carry what I want, when I want, and how I want to. Number 8 is key for me.

Same as Chris...3,6,9 for me

I just want the right to ccw , like real states do...

5,6, and 9 for me.

4,6,9... i have no problem with the FID process ( my experience was great though). I think it may act as a deterent which is fine by me. If you make the process too easy, too many wreckless people will have access to firearms.

 

Agreed, my fid was a little lengthy but id rather someone need to take that extra step in order to get a gun.

Lots of folks here seem to agree with 6 and 9, which I have a feeling are the two issues that will never happen in my lifetime.

It was hard to pick just 3, but i picked 5,6 & 9 as well.

4,6,9 - Would have chosen 10 as well if we could have had 4 choices. I would love to play with some incendiary and tracer rounds. :twisted:

So far 53 people are looking to aquire some sort of CC in NJ.. how many of those 53 sent out a letter recently to their senators or assembly persons.

So far 53 people are looking to aquire some sort of CC in NJ.. how many of those 53 sent out a letter recently to their senators or assembly persons.

 

None! But I'm waiting on national CC to pass, it almost did last time.

3 / 6 / 9

 

 

Yes I have sent letters to my senators asking for CC support. Being that monmouth county is republican, they have showed support.

Firearm restriction in it's entirety be done. Anything less is a compromise of our constitutional rights.