What is the status of NJ MVC inspections?

 

This is what I've learned...

 

New cars are now 5 year and no longer 4 year. So 2006 and newer cars are now 5 yrs from date on your new car insp sticker. You will get a temp sticker to be placed on the orig new car insp sticker to extend it out another year to make a total of 5 yrs.

 

Classic Car insured cars (I have one) is now EXEMPT??? I called the NJ Classic Car motor vehicle Div. and they said "You are EXEMPT." Could I get a confirmation? Maybe even an Amen.

 

Regular cars are still to be inspected every 2 yrs but emmissions ONLY.

 

Please discuss...

It's about time

commercial vehicles are 1 year inspections & no more motorcycle inspections either

Its official now?

started yesterday Ed (monday)

And with this move i am even more pissed that i sold my mustang :evil:

Sweet.

...no more motorcycle inspections either

 

None at all? SWEET! So I no longer have to have a dedicated "inspection" helmet that has 4 square inches of reflective tape on each side and the back?

...no more motorcycle inspections either

 

None at all? SWEET! So I no longer have to have a dedicated "inspection" helmet that has 4 square inches of reflective tape on each side and the back?

just remember, just cause there is no more inspection, you can still get pulled over & ticketed for what is supposed to be legal

It would be nice if they would pull over the motorcycles with no mufflers and ticket the hell out of them.

And no, loud pipes do not save lives.

Will this change how many monitors in the car's computer have to be run?

 

My Axiom's cats are bad and the exhaust monitor never completes because there is no change in the exhaust before and after the cats. For a 2002 vehicle, one monitor can be incomplete and it will still pass inspection. As long as they don't stick the probe up the tailpipe, which they don't for most cars these days, mine should pass. Of course if this means they become strict ball busters, I have to sell the thing out of state. No way am I paying 2 grand for new catalytic converters. I drive the thing about 2k miles a year.

how long till my 91 fox body is "classic"

how long till my 91 fox body is "classic"

 

 

never mind.. 25 years.. ONE more inspection for me.. LOL

Will this change how many monitors in the car's computer have to be run?

 

My Axiom's cats are bad and the exhaust monitor never completes because there is no change in the exhaust before and after the cats. For a 2002 vehicle, one monitor can be incomplete and it will still pass inspection. As long as they don't stick the probe up the tailpipe, which they don't for most cars these days, mine should pass. Of course if this means they become strict ball busters, I have to sell the thing out of state. No way am I paying 2 grand for new catalytic converters. I drive the thing about 2k miles a year.

on 1996 & up, they don't do a tailpipe test, just OBDII. you may want to check, most catalyst convertors are covered for 8yr/80k miles

classic registered cars are never inspected, never have been. collector registered cars are also never inspected. now there is ONLY an emissions test, nothing else, on regular cars. they cant fail you for tinted windows, worn tires, no front plate, lights out, etc. doesnt mean you wont get stopped on the street for it, but you cant fail inspection.

I register my 92 fox as collector which means I only need to pass a functional odometer test. That's good cause my friggin odometer is about the only thing legal on the car. Collector car insurance is a hellavu lot cheaper than regular insurance too! Go garaged vehicle!

 

Cars that were due for an inspection before august still have to pass a physical inspection I think. I don''t think you can let it lapse a month waiting for the august change... then take it in. I may be mistaken, but I'm pretty sure I heard that.

You guys complain about helmet reflectors and loud pipes...

Go ahead....take off the stickers...when you get creamed because someone didn't see you,

you'll be the first one to bitc* and moan. Loud pipes on the other hand.... that's up in the air.

If you hear them, then you know it's a bike making you aware....hopefully.....unless you got

your Olivia Newton John CDs blasting.

Loud pipes can be obnoxious, but in these days of driving while texting, cell phoning, reading the paper, etc...

 

That's all the bikers really have to protect them from oblivious idiots. I don't blame 'em. On the other hand, it is not really necessary to rev your Harley to 4000RPMs at the stop light.

Agreed!

you may want to check, most catalyst convertors are covered for 8yr/80k miles

 

130k miles. I did all the repairs to fixed the emissions to pass inspection(pressure issue with one canister, o2 sensors, y-pipe, some other stuff)...then the catalytic monitor just would never run. Had my mechanic do the complete test with his probes...cats were toast and at $1800 just for the damn things + labor, forget it. All this on top of new wheels and tires, fuel pump, shocks, timing belt, battery, transmission oil change and some misc stuff...put $4000 into the stupid thing in 6 months. Now it doesn't like to shift into OD when it's warm and the AC needs charged. WEEEEE, I see a crisp $100 with my name on it when I'm finally tired of it.

This works out for me, cause my tires are sticking out past the wheel well by over an inch I believe and im due in September .

classic registered cars are never inspected, never have been. collector registered cars are also never inspected. now there is ONLY an emissions test, nothing else, on regular cars. they cant fail you for tinted windows, worn tires, no front plate, lights out, etc. doesnt mean you wont get stopped on the street for it, but you cant fail inspection.

 

 

I wish they would hurry up and ditch that front plate... it is stupid.. lol

So where is the law that says you can't roll around on bald tires?

Will this change how many monitors in the car's computer have to be run?

 

My Axiom's cats are bad and the exhaust monitor never completes because there is no change in the exhaust before and after the cats. For a 2002 vehicle, one monitor can be incomplete and it will still pass inspection. As long as they don't stick the probe up the tailpipe, which they don't for most cars these days, mine should pass. Of course if this means they become strict ball busters, I have to sell the thing out of state. No way am I paying 2 grand for new catalytic converters. I drive the thing about 2k miles a year.

 

So, the monitor won't run. Is the check engine light on? Codes?

 

If no check engine light and no cat codes your cats are possibly or probably good. The monitor needs preset conditions to run and test the cat. A bad cat will not prevent the monitor being run. Purpose of the monitor is to test the cat.

 

If the only problem is "monitor not run" you can't blame the catalytic converters. They have not been tested yet.

 

From your other post it sounds like a whole lot of shotgun diagnostics has been performed. :shock:

Loud pipes can be obnoxious, but in these days of driving while texting, cell phoning, reading the paper, etc...

 

That's all the bikers really have to protect them from oblivious idiots. I don't blame 'em. On the other hand, it is not really necessary to rev your Harley to 4000RPMs at the stop light.

 

 

I have been around motorcycles all my life. In the offroad world, quiet is best and I have always lived by the Treat Lightly moto. However when I got my street bike a few years back, I found comfort in the fact I put a loud pipe on it. People knew I was there and that was what I wanted. Young kids with loud radios, soccar moms with cell phones, and old people with hearing aids, blind bends in the road, hidden driveways...they all had a better idea I was in the vacinity.

 

As for inspections, does this new rule mean I have to get my suburban inspected? It ran out February of 2009.

Loud pipes can be obnoxious, but in these days of driving while texting, cell phoning, reading the paper, etc...

 

That's all the bikers really have to protect them from oblivious idiots. I don't blame 'em. On the other hand, it is not really necessary to rev your Harley to 4000RPMs at the stop light.

 

 

I have been around motorcycles all my life. In the offroad world, quiet is best and I have always lived by the Treat Lightly moto. However when I got my street bike a few years back, I found comfort in the fact I put a loud pipe on it. People knew I was there and that was what I wanted. Young kids with loud radios, soccar moms with cell phones, and old people with hearing aids, blind bends in the road, hidden driveways...they all had a better idea I was in the vacinity.

 

As for inspections, does this new rule mean I have to get my suburban inspected? It ran out February of 2009.

 

Needs to be inspected, if it has a failed sticker however, you will have to fix the problem before bringing it in. If the inspection sticker is passed till feb 09 then you should be ok to just run it through without problems. That's from what I understand anyway.

 

So, the monitor won't run. Is the check engine light on? Codes?

 

If no check engine light and no cat codes your cats are possibly or probably good. The monitor needs preset conditions to run and test the cat. A bad cat will not prevent the monitor being run. Purpose of the monitor is to test the cat.

 

If the only problem is "monitor not run" you can't blame the catalytic converters. They have not been tested yet.

 

From your other post it sounds like a whole lot of shotgun diagnostics has been performed. :shock:

 

I had codes for several things, one for small evaporative leak. One for a bad 02 sensor. One other for something up on the engine causing an infrequent misfire. Once those were fixed and cleared and the monitors ran, they're fine.

 

The sensors before and after the cats were tested on the tech 2 tool and showed no difference in the measure of gases. I don't recall the HO2S numbers. While the engine was running and hot 1200rpm 5 minutes, NOTHING was being catalyzed. Apparently while the other emission codes were on, the catalyst monitor won't run at all. Since I ran the vehicle for probably a year with codes, the Cat monitor never ran during that period. At some point during that period, the cats failed entirely. The bank2 sensor is supposed to have less activity than the bank1 sensor but the monitor won't even START until it sees some difference between the two, and since there is none, it just doesn't start the monitor. I imagine they never figured anyone would basically have the sensors offline while the cats were flatlined. We even put known working sensors in place and the results were identical. Cats are shot.

correct Mark, if both 02's show same readings, bad cat. Your misfire could have caused cat to go bad tho. sounds like you might own a ford

correct Mark, if both 02's show same readings, bad cat. Your misfire could have caused cat to go bad tho. sounds like you might own a ford

 

The misfire thing was the sensor. Bad connector if I recall...the code was something about misfires. I never noticed any power issues, noises or whatnot. I used to build and race cars. I'm VERY sensitive to differences in sound, power, shift points, etc.. It mattered when you're winning or losing by a few hundredths of a second.

 

It's not a ford. Isuzu Axiom, reliability of a FIAT with the ride of a donkey cart and the gas mileage of a Ferrari. http://thewellrats.com/malbor2/axiom/truck1.jpg

 

Still looks like that for the most part. It still starts and runs fine...cept it only shifts into OD on cold days, heh.

I had codes for several things, one for small evaporative leak. One for a bad 02 sensor. One other for something up on the engine causing an infrequent misfire. Once those were fixed and cleared and the monitors ran, they're fine.

 

The sensors before and after the cats were tested on the tech 2 tool and showed no difference in the measure of gases. I don't recall the HO2S numbers. While the engine was running and hot 1200rpm 5 minutes, NOTHING was being catalyzed. Apparently while the other emission codes were on, the catalyst monitor won't run at all. Since I ran the vehicle for probably a year with codes, the Cat monitor never ran during that period. At some point during that period, the cats failed entirely. The bank2 sensor is supposed to have less activity than the bank1 sensor but the monitor won't even START until it sees some difference between the two, and since there is none, it just doesn't start the monitor. I imagine they never figured anyone would basically have the sensors offline while the cats were flatlined. We even put known working sensors in place and the results were identical. Cats are shot.

 

I have a question...I'm due to take this clunker back for inspection. The catalyst monitor still hasn't run.

 

With the new inspections regime that started last August, will it still pass with no CEL and 1 monitor not run or do they require that the Catalyst monitor specifically be run?

 

Anyone know?