Cant get the you tube link to post so here is the address.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ib9rofXQ ... r_embedded

Got it. Here you go.One persons opinion but a fact check might surprise you.

Ib9rofXQl6w&feature=player_embedded

The person who made this video should be shot. So effin annoying. Why couldnt they just film someone talking instead of words flashing on the screen making me dizzy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taqiyya

 

Based on wiki, Taqiyya seems to be more a defensive tool used to protect ones life in dire circumstances occurring because of religious affiliation.

The person who made this video should be shot. So effin annoying. Why couldnt they just film someone talking instead of words flashing on the screen making me dizzy.

They wanted the words to have more impact. So that the Video game generation might actually absorb it. And old child learning tool.

Instead of taking someone's interpretation to heart, why not research the religion and make your own? Isn't that what religion even is?

Instead of taking someone's interpretation to heart, why not research the religion and make your own? Isn't that what religion even is?

 

Well put, what he said.

Instead of taking someone's interpretation to heart, why not research the religion and make your own? Isn't that what religion even is?

Agreed and this may be just the start some will use to investigate further.

"The greatest of journeys begins with the first step"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taqiyya

 

Based on wiki, Taqiyya seems to be more a defensive tool used to protect ones life in dire circumstances occurring because of religious affiliation.

 

I do see the irony. The entry about Taqiyya uses Taqiyya to alay fears that Muslims openly, willfully and revel in any opportuinty to lie to infidels.

What does it take for you guys to wake up?

What does it take for you guys to wake up?

An alarm clock

What does it take for you guys to wake up?

An alarm clock

 

 

I think you're riight! It appears it takes more than worldwide terrorism to wake this crew up!

What are we waking up to?

What are we waking up to?

 

The threat of Islam...

So thats where this forum is going?

 

Religious persecution?

 

 

As an American and a Jew, I am offended.

So thats where this forum is going?

 

Religious persecution?

 

 

As an American and a Jew, I am offended.

 

Same here. I am offended by this nonsense as well.

 

This would be like reading the bible at face value and saying "Here's 3 things you did not know about Christianity": Leviticus says to put to death anyone who wears clothing made of more than one fiber (death to poly/cotton blend wearers) and Leviticus also says to put to death anyone who works on the sabbath, though the good book is less clear about WHICH day is the sabbath so I guess we'll just have to stone everyone who worked a Saturday or Sunday just to be safe :roll: Leviticus also says it's OK to own slaves from neighboring nations but not from your own, so I guess that means its OK to enslave Canadians? :roll:

 

Anything written in ancient times, especially religious texts, will say some "silly" things. It's up to us as intelligent people to understand that not everyone is bat sh*t crazy to actually take it to heart. In this country we have freedom of religion for ALL people. "The United States is not in any sense founded upon the Christian religion" - Treaty of Tripoli, turn of the 19th century, look it up.

 

As for me I'm wearing cotton poly blend (what can I say, I love Dickies and gym shorts) and have worked many a weekend in my life unfortunately. I'm not worried about anyone stoning me because I know 99.999999% of people aren't that crazy

It seems again that liberty, freedom and the Constitution only apply to things we like and agree with.

 

The irony is that the most radical imams in Pakistan and Iran agree 100% with this attitude. We're becoming more like them every day. Who is really destroying America?

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

so I guess that means its OK to enslave Canadians?

 

As a Canadian I am offended!

 

 

the threat of Islam? Ha! How about the threat of Christianity? They already have a strong grip on this nation. We need to fight against them harder than Islam if we are ever going to win!

How about the threat of lazy fat kids playing xbox for 23 hours a day?

How about the threat of lazy fat kids playing xbox for 23 hours a day?

 

Now this right here, is what really terrifies me!

How about the threat of lazy fat kids playing xbox for 23 hours a day?

 

 

As a fat kid who plays X-box 23 hours a day I am Offended!

 

 

 

 

No seriously though. I only play for 15.

Looking back to when I was a kid, I certainly had my hours of playing video games. I also maintained a job through school earning my keep which I don't think a lot of kids do anymore.

So thats where this forum is going?

 

Religious persecution?

 

 

As an American and a Jew, I am offended.

 

Same here. I am offended by this nonsense as well.

 

This would be like reading the bible at face value and saying "Here's 3 things you did not know about Christianity": Leviticus says to put to death anyone who wears clothing made of more than one fiber (death to poly/cotton blend wearers) and Leviticus also says to put to death anyone who works on the sabbath, though the good book is less clear about WHICH day is the sabbath so I guess we'll just have to stone everyone who worked a Saturday or Sunday just to be safe :roll: Leviticus also says it's OK to own slaves from neighboring nations but not from your own, so I guess that means its OK to enslave Canadians? :roll:

 

Anything written in ancient times, especially religious texts, will say some "silly" things. It's up to us as intelligent people to understand that not everyone is bat sh*t crazy to actually take it to heart. In this country we have freedom of religion for ALL people. "The United States is not in any sense founded upon the Christian religion" - Treaty of Tripoli, turn of the 19th century, look it up.

 

As for me I'm wearing cotton poly blend (what can I say, I love Dickies and gym shorts) and have worked many a weekend in my life unfortunately. I'm not worried about anyone stoning me because I know 99.999999% of people aren't that crazy

 

So you're offended that people question Islam, yet turn around and attack Christianity? Hipocracy much?

 

The Old Testament isn't the basis for Christianity. The bible is 2 parts. The old testament is the history, the New Testament is the guide. Yes, the Jewish laws and traditions were harsh back in the day. Both Christianity and Judaism recognize that you have to know where you came from to get where you're going. Much like school. Know you're history.

 

And I love the treaty of Tripoli. Take 1 line to overlook everything else written or done previously. The country was founded on the principles and morals of the Christianity, but not exclusively. They also made it clear that "we the people" were free to choose, and the government itself, which carried the name "The United States" was not permitted to set an official religion. To say the United States were founded on Christianity would have made the treaty unconstitutional. In the 1700's, everything wasn't lumped together as Christianity as it is today. You were Quaker, Catholic, Protestant, Christian, Lutheran, Baptist, etc.. So to say Christianity back then doesn't mean what it means today. If the treaty was worded with Christianity, it would have caused riots among the other sects of religions of the day.

 

Read the Declaration of Independence. For those that don't believe in a God, who gave you you're God-Given rights?

 

Everyone has a freedom to any religion they choose. But it doesn't mean you shouldn't be vigilant. I could create a group that thinks killing and raping are a good thing, then call it a religion. Does that mean I have a right to do those things? The Bible specifically says that the law of the land takes precedence, where around the world Islam is forming Sharia courts in the countries they expand in. When you see courts making decisions that respect religions, its time to worry and be more vigilant.

 

And nothing in the video is false. It's all in the Qu'ran. If you're offended by the truth, maybe you need to do some research and fact check it. Then sit back and make your own decision. Its more troubling that people get offended when people question Islam, yet don't say a word when someone questions Judaism or Christianity.

And nothing in the video is false. It's all in the Qu'ran. If you're offended by the truth, maybe you need to do some research and fact check it.

 

If you'd like someone to post all the crazy, horrific and hateful stuff that's in the Bible, let me know. There are a lot of real doozies. Hint: a lot of you need to be killing your non-virgin daughters tonight....

Take a Bible quiz

 

http://www.ffrf.org/legacy/quiz/bquiz.php

Holy crap, what a clusterf*ck this thread is. What is going on here with some of you folks?

 

Most responses display either ignorance, immaturity or denigration. It's so bad that it is impossible to tell who is serious and who is actually attempting to have a rational discussion.

 

If anyone here doesn't understand the fundamental threat Islam posses to our way of life then they better start following what is happening in Europe as we speak. If you don't know what I am talking about then you have no place criticizing anybody here for expressing serious concern.

 

And as far as some of the "religious persecution" crap being slung here (assuming it's not sarcasm), do we allow polygamy? Child marriages? How about male dominance over women?

 

There are always exceptions being made to that rule, this in the name of common sense.

And nothing in the video is false. It's all in the Qu'ran. If you're offended by the truth, maybe you need to do some research and fact check it.

 

If you'd like someone to post all the crazy, horrific and hateful stuff that's in the Bible, let me know. There are a lot of real doozies. Hint: a lot of you need to be killing your non-virgin daughters tonight....

 

That's Sharia law. Did you read any of my post? Where do any Christians follow the Old Testament as law? The Old Testament is the history of the Jewish people leading up to the birth of Jesus. Christianity follows the words of Jesus, but you have to know the history. You have to know where you came from and why. The Old Testament is recognized by Judaism, Christianity, and Islam. They split at the New Testament. That's where the Tor'ah and Qu'ran come in.

 

Do you ignore history when you react to modern day news?

 

All I did was state fact. I didn't push Christianity. Did I preach? Look at history. Jews were persecuted and are still in self defense mode in the middle east. Christianity has stayed the same. Islam is spreading by force, even non-violent force in the way of mass immigration in Europe, effectively taking over. Judaism and Christianity don't force you to believe what they believe. You specifically have to ask to convert. When a country becomes a Mulsim majority, its convert or die. Before they have a majority, they're all moderate. But don't take my word for it, just look up news from 1970 on in Europe and look at the slow progression.

 

Look, I don't hate muslims. I'm just someone who pays attention. I don't hate anyone. You can ignore the Qu'ran, and just look at history and come to the same conclusions. I'm not asking anyone to believe it or start distrusting anyone. Just be vigilant. Be as vigilant as you would be in your own self defense. Pay attention. Why is tolerance a one way street?

there's a few of these threads... you noticed, huh Safety. I'm a Jew and all, and I got kinda whooped for it back in the USSR, so I'm all for tolerance, but I'm not gonna be tolerant of the intolerant. I'm not gonna say someone has every right to try and kill me or force me into their religion, for the sake of tolerance. "F" that!

Give me my carry permit so I can defend myself!