And what aren't nj legal

 

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It's a pic of what was recovered from the Wayne man kiddie porn case. Apparently he had hi cap magazines and illegal hollowpoint bullets

Wow, he had some high-quality hardware.

From left to right

KRISS Carbine .45 Legal

M-1 Garand Legal

Springfield 1903 Legal

Benelli Super-90 NOT Legal (Pistol Grip on a Semi Shotgun + Assault Weapon)

HK SL-8 (???) Legal

AR-15 Legal

pellet Rifle Legal

Ar-15 Legal

Ak-variant Legal

Unknown

The AR's both appeared to have Muzzle Brakes, and the Ak appeared to have either a Crowned bbl, or a thread protector (I Assume) pinned on.

 

Handguns: 1 Glock at least 4 1911's, 1 revolver, 1 unknown, what APPEARS to be an FN Five7N, and an AR lower.

I see a M14/M1A, 1903 Springfield, HK SL8, AR15, some sort of AK variant, and what looks to be a glock. Not sure what else is there.

Benelli Super-90 NOT Legal (Pistol Grip on a Semi Shotgun + Assault Weapon)

I thought this be made legal by permanently blocking the magazine to 6 rounds? Or is the pistol grip too evil no matter what?

I thought this be made legal by permanently blocking the magazine to 6 rounds? Or is the pistol grip too evil no matter what?

 

IIRC any semi-auto shotgun w/ a pistol grip is an "assault weapon"

I thought this be made legal by permanently blocking the magazine to 6 rounds? Or is the pistol grip too evil no matter what?

 

2C:39-1

 

(3)A semi-automatic shotgun with either a magazine capacity exceeding six rounds, a pistol grip, or a folding stock.

kpd got them all.

 

cant be tooo many Kris owners out there.

I'm sure the article listed them all as AK'S.....

It's 03-A3, not just an 03.

The second from the left looks to be an M1A, not a Garand. Unless my eyes are going which could be as I am getting older

Wow, he had some high-quality hardware.

 

Damn right! I hope they don't destroy them, but this is New Jersey.

a shame had to be an idiot. seems like the guns were cool enough as is. why go against the law and add high cap magazines.

 

 

question, he was arrested for having hollowpoints. is that charge only because he commited an other gun related crime with posession of them.

M1a No doubt.

I thought this be made legal by permanently blocking the magazine to 6 rounds? Or is the pistol grip too evil no matter what?

Pistol grip is an automatic no-no cost me a SWEET deal on a High Standard model 10 a few years back too

The second from the left looks to be an M1A, not a Garand. Unless my eyes are going which could be as I am getting older

You are correct, I was wrong, i was looking at the reciever area and didnt bother looking at the gas system.

There is no such thing as "high capacity magazine"

 

It's a political term, coined by politicians 20 years ago to vilify an entire class of firearms. When these guns were designed they were meant to used, 20, 30, 35, etc. round magazines.

 

That would make a 30-round AR-15 magazine a standard capacity magazine.

 

5, 10, and 15 round magazines being used in a gun designed for 20 and 30 round magazines would make them low capacity magazines.

 

Here in NJ, we are only allowed to have low capacity magazines. At his house, police found standard capacity magazines.

 

If you could go back in a time machine to 1980-something, walk into a gun shop and ask for a "high capacity magazine" the guy behind the counter would probably look at you funny.

There is no such thing as "high capacity magazine"

 

It's a political term, coined by politicians 20 years ago to vilify an entire class of firearms. When these guns were designed they were meant to used, 20, 30, 35, etc. round magazines.

 

That would make a 30-round AR-15 magazine a standard capacity magazine.

 

5, 10, and 15 round magazines being used in a gun designed for 20 and 30 round magazines would make them low capacity magazines.

 

Here in NJ, we are only allowed to have low capacity magazines. At his house, police found standard capacity magazines.

 

If you could go back in a time machine to 1980-something, walk into a gun shop and ask for a "high capacity magazine" the guy behind the counter would probably look at you funny.

 

 

Excellent point bro, right on the money.

true.

 

but what about the g17 with the 33 rd mag. would that be a high capacity magazine? since it was designed with 17rds in mind

Its a kiddie porn case. The Prosecutor will use the weapons as leverage. Can't prove the initial charge, he's a sick F--K. Go for the easier one, the mags and hollowpoints.

true.

 

but what about the g17 with the 33 rd mag. would that be a high capacity magazine? since it was designed with 17rds in mind

 

Yes, if the gun was designed for 17 rounds, then a 33 round magazine for that gun would be a high capacity magazine. The standard would be the 17 and the 15's you're stuck with here in NJ (or whatever size they are here) are the low capacity magazines.

 

Some guns are intended to use even larger drums/belts. For example, a 75 round drum in an RPK would be a standard capacity magazine, as that is the device the gun was designed to feed from. Putting a 30 round magazine in an RPK would be using a low capacity magazine.

Its a kiddie porn case. The Prosecutor will use the weapons as leverage. Can't prove the initial charge, he's a sick F--K. Go for the easier one, the mags and hollowpoints.

 

+1000

 

The guns are a leverage issue.

 

I pretty sure that anyone involved with kiddie porn has a mental defect which would make any gun ownership illegal.

Hard to tell from the pic, but if the M1A, AR type, or AK type have deadly bayonet lugs then they are illegal. If the Kriss has a folder it is also illegal.

They still need to make the kiddie porn stuff stick so he has to register his name on the sex offender list!

Gun penalties are out of proportion with the offense ala the guy in prison for 7 years because he had a unloaded gun locked in his trunk.

Prosecuter will probably offer a deal to have S***bag plead guilty to the kiddie porn offense so he won't be charged with the gun charges.

Gun penalties are out of proportion with the offense

 

I noticed the same thing too, somewhat recently actually. I tend to read various states' gun laws when I'm really, really bored. Maybe 6 months ago, I was amazed to find out that in most states, things like carrying a gun without a permit, or improper transportation of one, are usually misdemeanors or even just fines the first offense or two. NJ is one of only a ridiculous handful where the mere non-violent act of having a gun on you, or not locked the right way, is a straight up felony with huge jail sentences.

I noticed the same thing too, somewhat recently actually. I tend to read various states' gun laws when I'm really, really bored. Maybe 6 months ago, I was amazed to find out that in most states, things like carrying a gun without a permit, or improper transportation of one, are usually misdemeanors or even just fines the first offense or two. NJ is one of only a ridiculous handful where the mere non-violent act of having a gun on you, or not locked the right way, is a straight up felony with huge jail sentences.

 

 

In NJ, you get less time in jail if your a convicted felon shooting someone with an illegaly obtained gun, than an honest citizen violating a stupid transportation law.

In NJ, you get less time in jail if your a convicted felon shooting someone with an illegaly obtained gun, than an honest citizen violating a stupid transportation law.

 

Sadly this is true.