I received the following email from Gun for Hire. The line I found interesting was the guarantee that you will get a CCW as an armed guard.

 

Do you want a New Jersey Carry Permit?

 

New Jersey Security Officer and Gun For Hire Is now offering our third Armed Security Officer Training Class.

 

Just answer the following questions to see if you qualify to become an Armed Officer in the State of New Jersey.

 

What we are offering is a complete instructional course that will assist you in obtaining your letter of need so that you can carry armed as an officer in New Jersey.

 

We will be holding interviews by Appointment Only and we will EMAIL you to set up your interview.

 

In order to be considered for this program you must email us back as soon as possible by answering the following questions:

 

If you are accepted into this Twelve Class program you are guaranteed a letter of need and a carry permit.

 

No phone calls please.

 

All requests must be made through email only.

 

Questions -

 

 

1. Do you have a Car and a valid Drivers license? YES no

 

 

2. Are there any criminal charges pending against you? NO yes

 

 

3. Do you have any Child Support Payment Issues? NO yes

of course it's guaranteed IF you get hired as an armed security guard. That's why they have an interview and screening process.

I don't understand this thread? Are they hiring armed security guards or is this a loop hole?

Don't the permits for Armed Security get issued with "valid on-duty only"?

Don't the permits for Armed Security get issued with "valid on-duty only"?

 

Yup, and it's not for concealed carry. It's for "Duty Carry"

A friend of mine works for an armored car company. He has a carry permit issued by NJ for work only. Cannot carry unless he's clocked in. Sounds like something similar.

Yup, and it's not for concealed carry. It's for "Duty Carry"

law does not make any distinction between concealed and open carry. It's just a license to carry.

Judge can put what restrictions he likes on the permit, by law. I've been given to understand the time an dplace is routinely restricted; and the manner can be as well by law.

I already sent back my email! patiently waiting my spot.

If you think this is a back door way to get a NJ concealed carry permit, then stop right now. Assuming you pass all the tests and qualifications and licensing, your carry permit will still only be valid while you are actively on duty as a security guard. Not on the way to or from work, or while you are not employed with a security company. Sorry.

If you think this is a back door way to get a NJ concealed carry permit, then stop right now. Assuming you pass all the tests and qualifications and licensing, your carry permit will still only be valid while you are actively on duty as a security guard. Not on the way to or from work, or while you are not employed with a security company. Sorry.

 

Exactly what I was going to say, thank you.

I'm surprised at Gun For Hire... They are basically offering SORA training, no? Sounds to me like they are marketing the class from a different angle.

This seems extremely mis-leading!!!! I know Gun for Hire is highly regarded here at NJGF....but apparently this is what I have been told about them as well. If what I have heard is true....well I just dont know what to say! No integrity? I am not verifying with any first hand accounts of info....So I stress that I still have no judgement to the issue and I dont wish anyone to cast judgement based on what I have put here. I have an email from a 3rd party..... and that is it. But with the ad for ccw, and the email, I will keep my distance for now.

Just answer the following questions to see if you qualify to become an Armed Officer in the State of New Jersey.

I don't see how that is misleading....

I don't see how that is misleading....

 

 

If you are accepted into this Twelve Class program you are guaranteed a letter of need and a carry permit!

Guy's

 

This program is to become an armed uniformed security officer that can carry only during the course of employment. No loophole or $500 Jersey City Scam Here. This is our third year offering this and over 100 people have finished and received their letter of need to work security only. We only run real programs. This is not for a civilian to get a CCW (I wish).

 

If you have any more questions just email me.

If you are accepted into this Twelve Class program you are guaranteed a letter of need and a carry permit!

like what i said, if you get hired you are guaranteed a letter of need. When you work for armed security, you will need a permit to carry that is also provided when you get hired.

In other words, they are guaranteeing things that are guaranteed to be given when you get hired as an armed security.

This is not for a civilian to get a CCW (I wish).

 

If it was, business would be booming

If you are accepted into this Twelve Class program you are guaranteed a letter of need and a carry permit!

Yes you are guaranteed a letter of need and a carry permit, which will allow you to carry while on duty as an armed security officer. The email is in no way misleading if you read it correctly and pay attention to words. Some people don't understand.....words are very important, and the difference between just one word can change the whole meaning. I am not trying to pick on you in any way, just trying to advise you to read carefully.

Hmm wonder if there is such a job as a on call security guard. That way I can carry 24 hours of the day. LMAO

No, because then you would only be able to carry while ON DUTY. This is a pretty easy concept to understand

Hmm wonder if there is such a job as a on call security guard. That way I can carry 24 hours of the day. LMAO

 

There is - I have some acquaintances that are.

@Krdshrk Thanks for the info. I wasn't serious but glad to see it does exist.

 

@vjf915 Smile, you will live longer.

i need someone to help me get a PI license. anyone?

Shug if you are joking, then I am relieved.

i need someone to help me get a PI license. anyone?

If you look at the application, they're looking for people with at least a few years of law enforcement experience, or has worked under another PI for a few years. I think that's why almost all of them are either retired or former LEOs.

If you look at the application, they're looking for people with at least a few years of law enforcement experience, or has worked under another PI for a few years. I think that's why almost all of them are either retired or former LEOs.

 

thats exactly what i need to do. work under someone, so eventually i can go on my own. my bro retires in less than 7yrs, so i need to start NOW!

Shug if you are joking, then I am relieved.

 

Was only a joke.

A "Letter of Need" for the NJ "Carry Permit" is supplied by the employer. If the employer asks you to stand in a supermarket armed - GOOD LUCK ON THE JUDGE RECOGNISING your/employer's "Letter of Need".

 

These NJ "Permits" are for WORK ONLY or in other words a working permit, to be armed. There is no "class" needed to get a NJ "Carry" permit. Just satisfy the backgnd check and wait up to 6 months. Once the "carry" permit is obtained. It is only good for 2 yrs.

 

On the permit there is a stamp which says "restrictions" or in other words, it is ONLY for while at work. ONLY. If you leave your employer, you are given like a week or two to SURRENDER the "carry" permit back to the PD or risk punishment.

A "Letter of Need" for the NJ "Carry Permit" is supplied by the employer. If the employer asks you to stand in a supermarket armed - GOOD LUCK ON THE JUDGE RECOGNISING your/employer's "Letter of Need".

 

These NJ "Permits" are for WORK ONLY or in other words a working permit, to be armed. There is no "class" needed to get a NJ "Carry" permit. Just satisfy the backgnd check and wait up to 6 months. Once the "carry" permit is obtained. It is only good for 2 yrs.

 

On the permit there is a stamp which says "restrictions" or in other words, it is ONLY for while at work. ONLY. If you leave your employer, you are given like a week or two to SURRENDER the "carry" permit back to the PD or risk punishment.

 

 

Correct that there is no class to get a carry permit. The class we offer is in conjunction with a bona fide security company and upon completion you are issued a letter of need under that company. You are then obligated to work part time for them and can also act as a free agent and apply for other armed jobs in NJ. The great kicker is that if you are terminated by another employer you do not have to surrender you CCW because our security company still keeps you employed part time. If not for that you would lose that CCW and not be able to apply for armed work. For too long have security companies held a stranglehold over hard working officers. We fixed that. This is out third year running this class and we have help almost 100 people get armed security jobs.