Lemme put this in layman's terms. If your goal was to drive across country, would you do it in the cheapest car you could buy? No. Would you do it in the most expensive car you could buy? No. You would use the most reliable, comfortable car you could afford. For some that might be a Honda Civc, for others that might be a BMW. But why choose the 1988 Buick Skylark with a broken head light and bald tires?

As I wrote, I do not know anything about them. I will not use anygun as a HD gun w/o putting at least 500 trouble free rds through it. If I had a High Point wth 500 good rounds through it I would use it for HD. I have had a malfunction with an HK, XD and a few 1911's. I would still trust them, I did with some. The only pistol I have never had a malfunction in is my Sig P220.

As I wrote, I do not know anything about them. I will not use anygun as a HD gun w/o putting at least 500 trouble free rds through it. If I had a High Point wth 500 good rounds through it I would use it for HD. I have had a malfunction with an HK, XD and a few 1911's. I would still trust them, I did with some. The only pistol I have never had a malfunction in is my Sig P220.

 

Okay, nothing wrong with that Tim.

would you use a Hi-point handgun for self defense?

 

I wouldn't use any handgun for self defense unless it was a carry situation.. I think that there are far better options for in home self defense.. pistol caliber carbines.. shotgun.. etc.. I would use a pistol when a pistol is the only viable option.. street carry..

 

just saying..

 

 

as far as the high point.. plenty of people buy guns just to have another gun to shoot.. maybe a different caliber or a different feel or something.. not every gun for every person is a gun that might even be considered for self defense.. and in that scenario.. for $200 brand new.. I might have grabbed one if I had a permit to burn..

why would i buy this gun ? it is inexpensive and it works so far. not poor just cheap what do we really use theese guns for ? fun and enjoyment not much else at this time so i just could not justify spending the extra 2 to 4 hundred bucks . would i use this for self defense ? yes .

why would i buy this gun ? it is inexpensive and it works so far. not poor just cheap what do we really use theese guns for ? fun and enjoyment not much else at this time so i just could not justify spending the extra 2 to 4 hundred bucks . would i use this for self defense ? yes .

 

That's all I wanted to know. To each his own brother.

That's all I wanted to know. To each his own brother.

well all you had to do was ask .

I have shot one, although it was a long time ago and I don't remember the caliber. All i remember is that when we were shooting a bunch of guns, it wasn't the one I wanted to shoot. As far as the carbine, I considered it before I bought my Cx4. I made the right decision then, and I love my Cx4. Although the Hi-Point carbine is a great little rifle.

My Charter is old news, and I had a lemon. That gun has since been replaced with a new one and everyone who has shot it likes the feel and the trigger.

The question still hasn't been answered, would you use a Hi-point handgun for self defense? I wouldn't

 

I asked back here.

I asked back here.

i see i guess i just need to pay more attention sometimes thanks Ray

i see i guess i just need to pay more attention sometimes thanks Ray

 

Yeah you do!!!!!!!!!

 

jk

If you just want something to fool around with at the range then more power to you. But if I needed a pistol to defend my life with and I had the choice of 3 Ruger revolvers or a Hi Point, the Hi Point would be last in line.

we had it out on the home range sunday. i am happy to say it functioned pretty well . we shot 200 rounds between the 3 of us. we probably went through 25 mags not all were fully loaded. and it failed to eject the spent case on 3 mags .this was on the 3rd or 4th round in the mag . the ammo was 230 fmj it was donated so not sure what kind we were not aloud to have the boxes. so over all i think this cheap a** gun will surve its purpose well .oh almost forgot the new custon grips i installed . grip tape boy it looks like hell but you will never loose your grip

I know absolutely nothing about High Points, nothing. What I have heard is people that own them give them decent reviews and people who do not trash them. Is there an abundance of reviews about these guns blowing up or failing? Are they documented crap like a Charter ot Lorcin?

 

Word from the serious shooter community is that they're..... not good. Unreliable, inaccurate, fugly.... you get it. No offense whatsoever to the OP but you're better off getting a Glock 19 that's been run over by a semi, or a Glock 21 if you're into .45.

 

There is an ABUNDANCE of information out there about them.

Word from the serious shooter community is that they're..... not good. Unreliable, inaccurate, fugly.... you get it. No offense whatsoever to the OP but you're better off getting a Glock 19 that's been run over by a semi, or a Glock 21 if you're into .45.

 

There is an ABUNDANCE of information out there about them.

 

The abundance of information generally coming from people who don't own a highpoint. Because google highpoint and any of those terms (e.g. reliability and/or accuracy) and you'll get a bunch of hits where owners are praising the highpoints.

 

I should know because I did the same thing when I was trying to make up my mind on whether or not to get their 45 carbine (which I did). I wanted a 45 carbine and didn't want to pay HK's or Beretta's ridiculous prices for one (didn't know about Taurus at the time). In the end, I decided that highpoint had a good enough reputation for me to warrant paying for it and trying it out.

 

The line about the "serious shooter community" almost made me spill coffee all over the place while I laughed. I mean really...talk about being pretentious and mall ninja-esque!

The line about the "serious shooter community" almost made me spill coffee all over the place while I laughed. I mean really...talk about being pretentious and mall ninja-esque!

 

Owning a High Point yourself I can see why you'd be offended by my statements, even though I caveated it with the fact that I meant no offense and was just relaying what I've read, heard and seen over the last 5 years, but there's no need to call me pretentious or a mall ninja, that's just getting petty.

 

Here's a quote from an "Industry Professional" who is a moderator on a reputable forum I will not name. Certainly has a significant population of people with real world experience who are all saying the same thing.

 

The evidence is abundant in that they break frequently, are generally made of piss-poor quality materials, and generally aren't used by a single individual I can name who is actually serious about the purpose of handguns.

 

We've granted some indulgence on the subject of crappy handguns as a means of education...but Hi-Points stretch beyond the limits of what we're willing to tolerate. The bottom line is that they are terrible pistols and shouldn't be used or purchased unless a sharp stick is the alternative...and even then you should probably take a hard look at the sharp stick.

Oh, gunnyr, just to poke a huge hole in your assumption that the **** talkers are not hi-point owners, here's an owner chiming in.

 

I've had 18 High Points go through the concealed carry class over the last few years. Or since I started keeping score with regard to this gun. Out of the 18 guns, 16 didn't make it through 40 rounds without malfunction. One fired 1 round and never fired again no mater what was done to it.

Now two made it through 48 rounds without a malfunction so I guess that's a good thing.

They stand by the gun for LIFE. but that may not be for that long of a time if you know what I mean.

 

Mall ninja for life.

LOL!!

Yeah, I wish I was an "Industry Professional" with that all important "Real World Experience"!

 

(BTW that's my serious face I'm wearing. Because everybody but the idiot behind the camera could smell the ambush...)

 

I never said I was the guy, all I did was back up my statements. You can be as sarcastic as you like. Go ahead and post all of your medals while you're at it, doesn't change anything.

This is what i don't understand about the purchase. They can't be any cheaper, so why would you buy one? I've been to plenty of ranges (not only in NJ but Oregon, Washington state and Virginia) and I've never seen one of these handguns. The rifles, yeah all the time. But the handguns are a joke. I'm not trying to belittle the OP but the warrenty will mean diddly squat when the time comes for you to use it and it chokes.

This is what i don't understand about the purchase. They can't be any cheaper, so why would you buy one?

 

Not speaking for the OP but what if this is all you could afford? Granted, you could save a little more and get a used Glock, S&W, what have you but in the event of any of those second hand guns needing repair, you are footing the bill. So if money is so tight that this becomes an issue, the lifetime warranty becomes a huge plus.

 

Lastly, I have to give this company props as it's able to manufacture domestically but keep prices at China slave-labor levels. In order to do that they've skimped on just about every place that they could get away with and I can understand that.

Nyou could save a little more and get a used Glock, S&W, what have you but in the event of any of those second hand guns needing repair, you are footing the bill. So if money is so tight that this becomes an issue, the lifetime warranty becomes a huge plus.

 

Ruger and Smith make a great basic pistol that are cheaper than used Glocks. Sigma's or a P-series. Both are dirt cheap and will run just fine.

Ruger and Smith make a great basic pistol that are cheaper than used Glocks. Sigma's or a P-series. Both are dirt cheap and will run just fine.

You know that, I know that, and most anyone that's been around firearms will know how to shop for a bargain.

 

But a first time owner with more desperation than money? Or how about someone buying from a small and remote shop where they have to order everything therefore the customer better know exactly what they are looking for?

 

Anyway man I'm just trying to throw it out there as to why anyone would buy one. And apparently there are a lot of anyone's as this company is doing well. They serve a niche of firearms users and apparently they serve it well.

 

Let me put it this way, I wish KBI in Harrisburg had been able to achieve the same level of success. Granted those guys were importers but they had some good stuff (Charles Daly and Jericho).

There is always going to be the exception that proves the rule. Somewhere out there is that Hi Point that will run flawlessly for thousands of rounds, and the Glock that jams every 15 rounds. Just because "my friend had one Hi Point and it was reliable" doesn't mean anything. Statistics like the instructor that only had 2 out of 18 Hi Points cycle through 45 rounds is what matters. Proportion. HOW MANY Hi Points end up being reliable out of ALL the Hi Points sold? Honestly, I wouldn't trust my life with a Hi Point, not by any stretch of the idea. I would rather rely on a good flashlight and knife than a Hi Point.

Hi guys i take no offence. this is about or is the least expensive hand gun i or you could purchase i believe it was 186.00 out the door. did a little home work not much. for the price i figured if it dont do what it is sposto do i will hang it up and shoot it with the 44mag and send it back.as for why buy a cheapo what am i really going to use it for ? we cant carry . just shoot at the range and get a few good laughs or in my case the home range . if you need a good laugh go to youtube look up hi point tourture test

Honestly, I wouldn't trust my life with a Hi Point, not by any stretch of the idea. I would rather rely on a good flashlight and knife than a Hi Point.

 

I seriously hope you never run into someone who is intent on killing you. I honestly think that if you did, you'd grab and use anything that had a trigger and fired bullets, even if that meant your assailant's hipoint (if he was armed with one).

I seriously hope you never run into someone who is intent on killing you. I honestly think that if you did, you'd grab and use anything that had a trigger and fired bullets, even if that meant your assailant's hipoint (if he was armed with one).

 

Yeah of course, but that doesn't mean we don't have options. The OP also owns a few revolvers, which I'd use if need be.

To the OP and all, Hi Point isn't the gun you would use as you 1 and only PP piece and yes there are plenty of better options but let me tell you , I have a number of friends who have them. It's there extra saddle bag gun for when they are on the road on their bike. Mind you, these folks aren't in NJ but TX, KS, OK etc so you can do that. It's there oh crap I dropped my gun in a mud puddle and I really don't care, wash it off and you good to go. For the price it's a great value. Many of them say it shoots well and like you can see, if you run out of ammo you can beat someone ugly with it.

 

So to sum it up for us in the restricted state of NJ, I wound't have one, but outside of living here if I still did the road like I used to when I was younger camping for the night here and there, it's a nice cheap piece to have as a second or 3rd carry.

 

It's not a quality gun, it's not pretty, but it does what it was built for and it's cheap, and one thing I have herd is there customer service is top notch. One girl I know didn't like the added sites on the gun she bought second hand, called CS and told them they wanted to try the stock sites and asked how much. They said noting, give me your address and we will send them out to you. Have herd other stories similar to this also.

 

Just another point of view on Hi Point.

 

Harry