I don't understand why a NICS check is needed when purchasing a pistol.

When you apply for the permits why don't they run all the necessary checks at that point.

 

Maybe it's a dumb question but it just seems repetitive applying for a permit getting all the checks done, havering references and then....

they run the check anyway?

 

Is there a simple answer to this question?

 

Thanks guys and gal(s)

NICS (National Instant Criminal Check System) is done to check on a person at time of purchase to make sure nothing has arised from time they received the permit to time they purchase a handgun.

I don't understand why a NICS check is needed when purchasing a pistol.

When you apply for the permits why don't they run all the necessary checks at that point.

 

Maybe it's a dumb question but it just seems repetitive applying for a permit getting all the checks done, havering references and then....

they run the check anyway?

 

Is there a simple answer to this question?

 

Thanks guys and gal(s)

 

I think you are correct, but have it backwards. Why have the permit when there is a NICS check at the time of purchase?

Permits is state. NICS is federal.

 

States can do things their way and the feds do it their own way.

Permits is state. NICS is federal.

 

States can do things their way and the feds do it their own way.

 

Hence the stupidity of the permit system, paying for 2 NICS checks should be illegal.

The question we should be asking is why do we have to get a background check done to get the pistol permit when NICS is more up to date and deciding factor if you get the gun or not.

The question we should be asking is why do we have to get a background check done to get the pistol permit when NICS is more up to date and deciding factor if you get the gun or not.

 

You know the answer already. It so the state can say "no" when the feds would have said "yes".

Permits is state. NICS is federal.

 

Yes but NJSP runs NICS for NJ and collects the fee.

The thing is though, the Nics is not as deep as the type of investigation the local PD can be doing... but yes. Nics should be just fine.

Thanks, I figured it was NJ being stupid, but thought I'd ask.

because the NJs permitting process didn't meet the Brady standard and the NJ legislature wasn't interested in amending it to do so.

The thing is though, the Nics is not as deep as the type of investigation the local PD can be doing... but yes. Nics should be just fine.

The one FFL I use had a guy with a valid PP get denied on the NICS check. When he asked the SP how this could be, they said it happens once in a while. This was not a mistake by NICS, he probably shouldn't have gotten a PP to begin with. All the more reason to get rid of the permit system and just use NICS.

I've gotten 2 denials so far for people who acquired permits at their PDs.

I've gotten 2 denials so far for people who acquired permits at their PDs.

Mind boggling

 

And we still have to go though this crap of 3-4 trips to the PD, paying $18 to apply, and waiting 1-3 months for them to do the paperwork. And for what?

A pistol permit is good for 90 days, up to 180 days with an extension. Someone can easily commit a number of crimes within that time frame.

 

I am not by any means justifying the process. Gun purchases should begin and end in the gun store, not your local PD.

I've gotten 2 denials so far for people who acquired permits at their PDs.

 

This situation unfortunately happens...licensing agencies miss basic things like domestic violence restraining orders and out of state felony convictions but most of the time it's the databases that only NICS can access that causes the disqualification and resultant pissing match at an FFL. That's why we have the seemingly redundant processes. The NJ government, Govs Office/OAG and the Legislature didn't have the interest in amending exisiting statutes prior to 98'

revenue...

revenue...

 

I really don't think revenue was the main issue, but in this state everything needs funding to run. I believe it's genuine ignorance of legitimate, responsible gun ownership and use. The legislature authors laws that for the masses to make them feel good...people are scared from media onslaughts like Arizona and the Lakewood LEO murders. Both perpetrated by scumbags, not legitimate firearms owners. NJ's answer? Pass meaningless legislation. It happens for a lot of issues, not just firearms related (remember Jim Florio's "runny egg" statute?). As a side note, it's not just Democrates that play this game, Governor Christy Whitman approved NICS in NJ. Okay...off the soap box...

You know the answer already. It so the state can say "no" when the feds would have said "yes".

 

No its so the state can collect 60 bucks to provide a service that the feds do for 16.

No its so the state can collect 60 bucks to provide a service that the feds do for 16.

 

 

NJ NICS is $15 - Feds are free

I've gotten 2 denials so far for people who acquired permits at their PDs.

 

 

Hey PK90,

 

Being new here I just finding out who is who and I noticed that you do sales. So I just happen to check out your site and saw a Marlin 336A 30-30. You can hit me on my email if you like at [email protected] or in here if that's cool.

 

Either way, just wondering if you have the production year of the gun listed as (product #3303) and if it's still available.

 

It's not that I need another 30-30 but My father has 2 Marlin rifles that he has had for years a Golden 39A and a 336, and I just think it would be really cool for me to add the 336 to my current Golden 39A and have 2 sets of the same guns. Would make it so to speak, like father like son.

 

Harry