-I will be getting a Gen 4 Glock in 29 days.

-I have a g34 for comp

-I dont have a carry gun(For Florida obviously)

-From what i hear these things a precise, so maybe ill prefer it for comp

 

So what im asking is..

 

will the 1/2 inch differnce between the 2 make THAT much difference in accuracy is i went with the 19?

 

- i dont like how they label the 19 as a "backup"...that kidna turns me off of it...

 

 

 

What do you think?

The 19 is kind of a do all gun. Big enough for a duty gun (Port Authority) yet small enough for concealed carry. You should've shot one of mine last night dude.

The reason the 19 is so popular in this state for the 15 round full capacity.

I carry mine when legal, so it's got my vote.

The 17 is prob more accurate out past 15yds because of the sight rad lenght difference, but I bet you would never notice. The G19 is the best all around handgun made, hands down. It is the do all, never break down, gun of the century. Ok I really like mine. Had it 12 years or so, never one let me down. I will take the 19 over a 17 any day because if of the capacity difference. Smaller, concealable and shootable with 15rds. If we were living in a real state, I would still say 19.

 

There are two great guns in the Glock lineup, and by great I mean historical, and they are the tops of their classes. The G19 is the best med size framed 9mm duty gun. The other is the G20, the best all around 10mm.

I for one is not a fan of a 19 (which I own). IMHO it is too big for carry and too small for anything else. I would go with a 34/35(which I own) for competition/home defense and 26(which I own)/27 for carry.

In my mind the subcompacts are to small to be accurate. If I'm that close to a assailant I'm gonna grab him by his Adams apple. I'm talking 10-30 yards.

Owning all 3 duty 9mm models (17,19,26) is not a bad idea.

If you had to pick 1?

In this state, if you are going to own a G17, you may as well get the G34 for the extra sight radius. You are limited to 10 round mags in both. There is a guy in PA though who will reduce your grip size by a little so you can use G19 15 rounders. I have seen the converted grip and he does a good job.

In my mind the subcompacts are to small to be accurate. If I'm that close to a assailant I'm gonna grab him by his Adams apple. I'm talking 10-30 yards.

 

Handgun is not really practical beyond 25 yards and for most people who do not practice regularly the practical distance is more like 15 yards. I would postulate that at those ranges 26 and 19 would perform equally well in the hands of the overwhelming majority.

The 19 is kind of a do all gun.

 

The G19 is the best all around handgun made,

 

The 19 is at least the best all around Glock 9mm. The agency I worked for issued 17s, 19s, and 26s and the 19 is the best balance of all three. I have carried and used all three.

 

IMHO it is too big for carry and too small for anything else. I would go with a 34/35(which I own) for competition/home defense and 26(which I own)/27 for carry

 

IMHO I can't see how much advantage 1.3" of barrel for general use. If you put the +2 on your 26 magazine you've made the grip (hardest part to conceal) the same length as the 19. The extra 1/2" or so of barrel doesn't interfere with concealed carry unless you are putting it in a specific size box. The only advantage the 26 has for concealment is its dimenisons make it easier to use from an ankle holster. With the 26 or 34 you are limited to 10 rd magazines from the factory (unless you find the 34 mags permanently blocked) vs 15 for the 19.

If you had to pick 1?

 

I have 2 19s. I might get a 26 as well. And if the state (YEAH RIGHT) ever gets rid of the magazine capacity then I'll pick up a 17 as well.

 

So what im asking is..

 

will the 1/2 inch differnce between the 2 make THAT much difference in accuracy is i went with the 19?

 

- i dont like how they label the 19 as a "backup"...that kidna turns me off of it...

 

 

 

What do you think?

 

I have a Gen4 G19 w a KKM barrel (tks OldSchool) and was killin the long steel shots @ Sundays USPSA comp @ CJ.

=90% of them went down on the 1st shot! I dropped another on the 2nd shot, only one more needed 4 shots bc I was gettin mad. I feal the G19 was SOLID on the long distance shots.

 

I am looking for a G34 or G35 for competition, just waiting on new permits.

IMHO I can't see how much advantage 1.3" of barrel for general use.

 

1.3" of sight radius is a pretty big advantage.

 

If you put the +2 on your 26 magazine you've made the grip

 

Why in the world would I do that?

 

 

If capacity is an issue for you (10 rounds vs 15) Get a 35 or a 22. .40 is a better round anyway and is not an issue in a full size handgun.

I have the g34 gen 3 --- and I love it. I've heard so many good things about the gen 4's but want the "do it all" pistol.

 

Now i feel my g34 is inadequate because there's something newer

- I have to wait for shore shots gssf program to start.

If capacity is an issue for you (10 rounds vs 15) Get a 35 or a 22. .40 is a better round anyway and is not an issue in a full size handgun.

 

A 40 is better like how? More recoil is better? Expensive ammo is better? Not gonna start the 9mm vs. 40 but the OP is using 9mm. And if I want a 40 caliber Glock, I'd get a 10mm Auto. Thanks LUNKER!

Now i feel my g34 is inadequate because there's something newer

- I have to wait for shore shots gssf program to start.

 

I would not trade a Gen 3 for Gen 4 unless Gen 3 did not fit my hand (in which case I would not own it anyway). I do not see what Gen 4 has to offer other than the interchangeable backtrap. And that given the fact that Gen 4 has an ambi mag release and I am a lefty shooter.

I'm not a fan of Glocks, but I've shot both...and the 17 fits my meat hooks better than the 19.

Less recoil and better checker grip frame. That alone is big for me.

 

Compare my gen 3 to my dads s&w 9 is like 9 vs 45

 

Now i feel my g34 is inadequate because there's something newer

- I have to wait for shore shots gssf program to start.

 

 

if u decide to part with it, i'll take 1st dibs.

G19 hands down. It performs as well as any full size. If you are getting a pistol for competition then that's another convo otherwise it's more than enough.

A 40 is better like how? More recoil is better? Expensive ammo is better? Not gonna start the 9mm vs. 40 but the OP is using 9mm. And if I want a 40 caliber Glock, I'd get a 10mm Auto. Thanks LUNKER!

 

 

Better in a defensive scenario. It evolved specifically to deal with the issues that LE observed with the 9mm. It is actually gentler in recoil than +P. In addition.40 evolved out of 10mm which had way too much recoil for the FBI agents who originally tried to adopt the cartridge. You can also load .40 to have very similar ballistic characteristics of the more manageable 10mm loads. I have a batch of .40 that I loaded that has a 180 grain JHP going at 1050 fps. It is not pleasant to shoot, but no less pleasant than similarly loaded 10mm.

 

Better in competition - you can use the same gun to compete in USPSA production and Limited division. Downloaded .40 will shoot softer than 9mm in production. And fully loaded .40 makes major for limited.

 

Better in NJ because of 15 round mags for full size pistols.

 

As far as cost goes - if you shoot so much that a couple of bucks per 50 makes a difference, you should be reloading. If you practice so much that a couple of bucks per 50 makes a difference then additional recoil will not matter. If you can effectively control the recoil of 9mm you will be able to do the same with .40.

If you do not practice that much, then the extra cost will not matter much to you. And you are better off working on making that first shot go where you want it to go. In which case the extra power of .40 will make that one shot more effective.

A 40 is better like how?

 

Better to shoot yourself in the foot with...

 

Better in a defensive scenario. It evolved specifically to deal with the issues that LE observed with the 9mm. It is actually gentler in recoil than +P. In addition.40 evolved out of 10mm which had way too much recoil for the FBI agents who originally tried to adopt the cartridge. You can also load .40 to have very similar ballistic characteristics of the more manageable 10mm loads. I have a batch of .40 that I loaded that has a 180 grain JHP going at 1050 fps. It is not pleasant to shoot, but no less pleasant than similarly loaded 10mm.

 

Better in competition - you can use the same gun to compete in USPSA production and Limited division. Downloaded .40 will shoot softer than 9mm in production. And fully loaded .40 makes major for limited.

 

Better in NJ because of 15 round mags for full size pistols.

 

As far as cost goes - if you shoot so much that a couple of bucks per 50 makes a difference, you should be reloading. If you practice so much that a couple of bucks per 50 makes a difference then additional recoil will not matter. If you can effectively control the recoil of 9mm you will be able to do the same with .40.

If you do not practice that much, then the extra cost will not matter much to you. And you are better off working on making that first shot go where you want it to go. In which case the extra power of .40 will make that one shot more effective.

 

Well said Slav!

I disagree. There are a few studies that show the 40S&W to be a compromise in every sense of the word, with much worse stopping percentages than either 9mm or 45acp (with the 125grain 357 ruling them all). i will try to dig them up.

-I will be getting a Gen 4 Glock in 29 days.

-I have a g34 for comp

-I dont have a carry gun(For Florida obviously)

-From what i hear these things a precise, so maybe ill prefer it for comp

 

So what im asking is..

 

will the 1/2 inch differnce between the 2 make THAT much difference in accuracy is i went with the 19?

 

- i dont like how they label the 19 as a "backup"...that kidna turns me off of it...

 

 

 

What do you think?

 

I did the same comparison and liked the G19 better because it is easier to conceal carry and it fits in my gunsafe with 3 full mags on the same shelf easier than the G17. For a full size I am looking at the G21 which will be out in April with a Gen4 according to Glock-Georgia.

Better to shoot yourself in the foot with...

 

 

The agent shot himself because he was stupid. The gun had nothing to do with his stupidity.

I think Im going the route of G35_Gen4! (so i can shoot Limited 10 in the future)

The agent shot himself because he was stupid. The gun had nothing to do with his stupidity.

 

I know that....Geez, can't be a smartass around here without all the Glock fanboys getting their panties in a wad...

I know that....Geez, can't be a smartass around here without all the Glock fanboys getting their panties in a wad...

 

Not a glock fanboy, I am a proud 11911/2011 FANBOY.

Did not know you were joking so my panties are out of my wad. < me joking!

I disagree. There are a few studies ...

We will have to agree to disagree then. Otherwise we can be quoting studies all day long. All of it has been done and amounts to :thsmiley_deadhorse: