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Thinking about leaving Ford and going to BMW

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Ill find out friday what is going to happen. I need to stick around to make sure my pay is right and theres no loose ends.

 

I hope they dont send me away for training like Ford did, i couldnt go if i wanted too

Hey guys,

 

So i have been working for ford for about a year now selling cars. Avg. paychecks are about $270/week for 60 hours of work. The area we are in is primarily "bad credit".

 

I have an opportunity to sell BMW's in freehold where everyone has good credit. My concern is the clientele. From what i've heard they are very hard to work with. but anything is better then this.

 

Any feedback?

 

Is that take home per week before any comissions? Looks like about $6/hr or $8 if normailzed t a 40 hr week. Do you sell a lot of cars a week? Just curious, I have never worked in car sales or retail or for sales commissions before

profit IS NOT a dirty word

 

when financing it cost you $20 per $1000 that you borrow

 

ex) 10,000 loan cost $200/ month

 

loo at your amount financed and see if the math fits Malsua

 

First, I'm not sure why you assumed I was buying a car. I was referring to my bumper to bumper Subaru of America warranty that apparently doesn't cover Air conditioner repair. Defective Shrader valve. For the record, I don't buy a car unless I can put 40% down. I bought 2 cars in 2008, one was paid off in 4 months, the other should be done in a year or so.

 

I used to run my own business. I don't begrudge anyone making a profit. I'm irritated when I'm told one thing in the sales room and other at the service desk. "Bumper to bumper, everything is covered". I know there is a deductible, I get that. They told me this was not covered because it's labor. That's called horseshit in my book.

 

I will not buy another car nor take any more service to their dealer for any frickin reason. Ramsey Subaru can blow me.

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Is that take home per week before any comissions? Looks like about $6/hr or $8 if normailzed t a 40 hr week. Do you sell a lot of cars a week? Just curious, I have never worked in car sales or retail or for sales commissions before

 

 

My pay plan:

 

used cars > 20% of the front end profit after Pack( is $650) & E-Account( $450) - So you have to make $1000 profit just to cover your "salesman fees".. Anything after that is 20% of your profit

 

new cars > 10% front end & 3% back end(warranties)

 

no salary- no demo- My dad is the General Manager and i am put to a higher standard

 

 

Heres where they get you....

 

Lets say you have a good week and get paid $100/car and you sold 5 so thats 500

 

Now the next 2 weeks you dont sell anything. You get "PUT IN THE DRAW" which is minimum wages THAT YOU MUST PAY BACK

 

**** now lets say you dont have a good month, Before you know it you r$800 in the draw and anything you make in profit goes towards paying back the DRAW, and it take you a month to get out of.

My pay plan:

 

used cars > 20% of the front end profit after Pack( is $650) & E-Account( $450) - So you have to make $1000 profit just to cover your "salesman fees".. Anything after that is 20% of your profit

 

new cars > 10% front end & 3% back end(warranties)

 

no salary- no demo- My dad is the General Manager and i am put to a higher standard

 

 

Heres where they get you....

 

Lets say you have a good week and get paid $100/car and you sold 5 so thats 500

 

Now the next 2 weeks you dont sell anything. You get "PUT IN THE DRAW" which is minimum wages THAT YOU MUST PAY BACK

 

**** now lets say you dont have a good month, Before you know it you r$800 in the draw and anything you make in profit goes towards paying back the DRAW, and it take you a month to get out of.

 

 

I have NO idea what all of that is saying :blink: but it seems to me that unless you sell a lotta cars, like 10 per week, and make a lot on each one, the whole thing is a gyp for you. Is that the way all car sales operations are? I have only bought 3 new cars in 30 years of driving ( 2 of which I own right now), so I don't deal with that much.

my buddy works for Paul Miller BMW. he is still making a killing to a bunch of wholesalers that buy from him along w/ his regular customers. i believe if you have a hook-up @ BMW, i'd go ahead and make the move. worst case, you can always go back to a Ford dealer.

Talk to the BMW folks and see how they work their compensation plan. It looks better on your resume to move from Ford to BMW. You might be in the car dealership business your whole life.

move to BMW and hook me up with some discount parts hahah

I've been a BMW guy for as long as I can remember. I've always been treated very well by BMW service (Paul Miller in Wayne has been phenomenal). Can't say much for the sales side as I've always had an "in", basically got my M5 at cost five years ago. They move a lot of cars, and they make some of the BEST cars.

 

Many here have mentioned the lease programs, from what I understand those are also the most lucrative for the dealerships. Joe, I think that it would be a good move for you to get that exposure to the higher end cars, if that's what you've chosen as a career. It can't hurt, you're being nickel-and-dimed.

They say the difference between a BMW and a Porcupine is that the Porcupine has the pricks on the outside.

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