Until I joined this forum, I was unaware of an outdoor range in NJ that I could afford and was within an hour of where I live. I also dont think my 16" carbine or WASR would be very accurate out to 600 yards.. does a range that long exist in NJ? I can't afford CJ range, and I've heard a lot of things about range 14 being anti- black rifle, didnt they call the cops on someone with a semi auto belt fed? not to mention its just too far of a drive for me to go shooting there after work. BA is 20 mins away, its convenient. I just found out about the Monmouth county range, which is apparently very affordable, but it seems as though there is a lot involved to become a member (being voted in, joining the NRA, 1 year probation etc) and I'm not sure I really wanna deal with all that stuff, not to mention they close at dusk so I'd rarely be able to shoot there. For now, the 25 yard range will do. As long as I can load ammunition into my rifles and make them go bang, I'm happy. Maybe one day when I move out of this state, I will be able to go to public outdoor ranges that dont have any requirements for membership. In the meantime it is most convenient for me to go to the indoor range, they are open till 10pm so I can make it there by 9pm on weeknights and have an hour to shoot Its unbelievable how much of a pain in the butt it is to shoot rifles here. When I go to PA for vacation, all I have to do is walk onto the back porch of the rental house and I have my own private range where I make the rules.. only bad thing about it is that I end up burning through all my ammo in less than hour bumpfiring with standard capacity magazines and can't hear anything but high pitched ringing for a few hours afterwards. Its always a sad moment when I have to pack up my stuff, leave the standard capacity mags behind and head back into this state

 

That's just normal with a private range run by its' members. Most ranges aren't cheap, aren't illuminated for night firing. Most private clubs have been built with interest-free loans or GRANTS from the NRA and that's why it's in their Bylaws to be a member of the NRA.

 

Not for nuthin', but you sound like you just wanna pump lead and make noise until yer ears ring.....

 

 

Not for nuthin', but you sound like you just wanna pump lead and make noise until yer ears ring.....

 

 

I'd be lying if I didnt confess that there is some truth to that statement.. I do just like sending lead down range, rapid fire, hip fire etc.. but its not ALL I enjoy doin. I do a lot of bench resting and prone shooting with a bipod everytime I'm at the range and focus on shot placement, I can shoot accurately, I tend to focus on this more with my 1911 than the rifles though. Oh and you mention illumination at the outdoor ranges, just curious.. are tracer rounds illegal to own in NJ? if they are legal, do any ranges allow them? seems like it would be helpful for shooting in low light conditions.

I don't know if they're "legal" to stare at & hold in yer hand while still in the casing, but NONE of the ranges that I pay to be a member at ALLOW them, probably due to the risk of FIRES! So what good are they if you risk being thrown out of a club you paid good money to belong to??

xm177e2687... Until I joined this forum, I was unaware of an outdoor range in NJ that I could afford and was within an hour of where I live. I also dont think my 16" carbine or WASR would be very accurate out to 600 yards.. does a range that long exist in NJ? I can't afford CJ range, and I've heard a lot of things about range 14 being anti- black rifle, didnt they call the cops on someone with a semi auto belt fed? not to mention its just too far of a drive for me to go shooting there after work.

 

I shoot down at Range 14 every other weekend with my Saiga AK variants and AR's with 0 issues..

 

I see ALOT of people with AR's and WASR's also (all NJ compliant)

 

They have simple rules.. but at 200 yards for $3/hour and only a $60 annual fee you can't really beat it.. they let you shoot PLASTIC bottles (clean them up) and steel out at 200 yards..

 

I dunno.. they seem good to me..

I shoot down at Range 14 every other weekend with my Saiga AK variants and AR's with 0 issues..

 

I see ALOT of people with AR's and WASR's also (all NJ compliant)

 

They have simple rules.. but at 200 yards for $3/hour and only a $60 annual fee you can't really beat it.. they let you shoot PLASTIC bottles (clean them up) and steel out at 200 yards..

 

I dunno.. they seem good to me..

 

Even better if you have a military ID card - only $30 a year. Outdoor shooting is nice.

 

As for BA, I have had 2 miserable dragged out purchase experiences (1 pistol, 1 rifle) with items misrepresented by the staff. Calls were not returned (many times), items not ready or available as promised (even after I had paid), NJ legalized not as I had asked (stock length fixed incorrectly). I cancelled the pistol order after weeks of "shipped yesterday - it'll be here tomorrow", followed by "out of stock", and then "vendor wont ship to NJ". Don't know if I was BS'd or just plain lied to repeatedly. Overall, I felt that there was a don't give a crap attitude by BA. I won't be going back. Does BA support NJGF?

BA does not support the forum.

BA sucks balls. Nothing but bull shitters who like to tell Marine stories and screw customers. True Marines have more honor and in fact, if I was a Marine, I would be livid.

 

 

Fact is, I would prefer a RO looking over me than not. I could care less what they do, They are there to keep the firing line safe. Kick up those panties and stop worrying about things like that. BA has no range officers and the only time I see them out there is if it is a group of shooters. They lie to people and I won't spend a nickle in the joint. In fact, I do all I can to steer people away from there. I would even go if I had a free membership

 

 

 

There is a reason why there is only 3 people on that range and SS has a line out the door.

 

 

XDJohn is 100% correct and I plus oned your posts.

 

 

Do a search on BA. There is more than enough to read.

BA sucks balls. Nothing but bull shitters who like to tell Marine stories and screw customers. True Marines have more honor and in fact, if I was a Marine, I would be livid.

 

 

Fact is, I would prefer a RO looking over me than not. I could care less what they do, They are there to keep the firing line safe. Kick up those panties and stop worrying about things like that. BA has no range officers and the only time I see them out there is if it is a group of shooters. They lie to people and I won't spend a nickle in the joint. In fact, I do all I can to steer people away from there. I would even go if I had a free membership

 

 

 

There is a reason why there is only 3 people on that range and SS has a line out the door.

 

 

XDJohn is 100% correct and I plus oned your posts.

 

 

Do a search on BA. There is more than enough to read.

 

 

Well geez.. After reading that I dont really wanna patronize their range anymore, but I personally have not had any issues so far. Like I said before, if SS allowed rifles I'd shoot there instead, but thats not the case so I'm not gonna be going there either. I might give fort dix a try since apparently what I heard about them being nazis when it comes to black rifles is not true. That was the only thing preventing me from going there honestly, although I do like to dump mags as fast as I can pull the trigger just for the fun of it and so far BA seems to be the only range, in NJ, that doesnt really care if I do that. Does Fort Dix have rules regarding rapid fire? And please, before anyone implies that it is dangerous, I have never had a problem placing shots on target with rapid fire from the shoulder, especially using a 5.56 with a brake that reduces felt recoil. I stick with double taps at most when it comes to the .308 so that I do not stray off target. Its just something that I've always enjoyed doing.. a waste of ammo, but fun Its not like I'm talking about "bump fire" either, because it is understandable why ranges would not allow that.

 

 

Well geez.. After reading that I dont really wanna patronize their range anymore, but I personally have not had any issues so far. Like I said before, if SS allowed rifles I'd shoot there instead, but thats not the case so I'm not gonna be going there either. I might give fort dix a try since apparently what I heard about them being nazis when it comes to black rifles is not true. That was the only thing preventing me from going there honestly, although I do like to dump mags as fast as I can pull the trigger just for the fun of it and so far BA seems to be the only range, in NJ, that doesnt really care if I do that. Does Fort Dix have rules regarding rapid fire? And please, before anyone implies that it is dangerous, I have never had a problem placing shots on target with rapid fire from the shoulder, especially using a 5.56 with a brake that reduces felt recoil. I stick with double taps at most when it comes to the .308 so that I do not stray off target. Its just something that I've always enjoyed doing.. a waste of ammo, but fun Its not like I'm talking about "bump fire" either, because it is understandable why ranges would not allow that.

 

Keep the rounds on target and R14 won't care. It sounds like you need to do a 2x4 shoot at Cherry Ridge. Nothing but rapid fire ammo wasting fun at those events.

 

 

Well geez.. After reading that I dont really wanna patronize their range anymore, but I personally have not had any issues so far. Like I said before, if SS allowed rifles I'd shoot there instead, but thats not the case so I'm not gonna be going there either. I might give fort dix a try since apparently what I heard about them being nazis when it comes to black rifles is not true. That was the only thing preventing me from going there honestly, although I do like to dump mags as fast as I can pull the trigger just for the fun of it and so far BA seems to be the only range, in NJ, that doesnt really care if I do that. Does Fort Dix have rules regarding rapid fire? And please, before anyone implies that it is dangerous, I have never had a problem placing shots on target with rapid fire from the shoulder, especially using a 5.56 with a brake that reduces felt recoil. I stick with double taps at most when it comes to the .308 so that I do not stray off target. Its just something that I've always enjoyed doing.. a waste of ammo, but fun Its not like I'm talking about "bump fire" either, because it is understandable why ranges would not allow that.

 

Check out http://range-14.com/ and http://range-14.com/rules.html. I shoot an Armalite AR10, my buddy has a Colt M4 - black rifles all over the place and no issues - anything NJ legal is permitted. The target 'stand' that the sell are nothing more that pieces of blunt 2x4s that you have to pound into the sand - bring a hammer or your own stands.

Or borrow one of their post hole diggers?

We had a big gtg at R14 and there was black rifles every where......no issues. There was AK's and M4's all over. Lot's of handguns. Was awesome day.

 

 

I am not knocking you for going to BA. I am just explaining most of our experiences. Maks, tbtrout, njpilot, myself, regulator72 ( and maybe more) were all members of BA. We are all now members of CJRPC. When you look at the cost of BA + Range 14, your at almost $00 for the year anyway. In two years your even at CJRPC and save after that.

Oh and you mention illumination at the outdoor ranges, just curious.. are tracer rounds illegal to own in NJ? if they are legal, do any ranges allow them? seems like it would be helpful for shooting in low light conditions.

 

The ammo is not illegal to own however unless your in law enforcement you are not allowed to shoot it here in NJ from what I understand.

 

Harry