the LAW does not state that... the state police suggest that.. but it is not actually in the code to my understanding.. the problem with "suggestions" is that they create huge pockets of misinformation.. especially.. when they are passed off as law..

 

And therefore MOST officers will give you the HARDEST TIME EVER..

 

and 'show me the code' response will not end well FOR YOU the GUN OWNER.. IMHO.

I was at SS a few months ago and some guy came in with his Glock to have Andy look at it. When he opened the gun case he had the gun and two loaded mags. Andy told him to be careful since having a loaded mag in the case with the gun was the same as having a loaded gun. It made sense to me but I did not say anything?

And therefore MOST officers will give you the HARDEST TIME EVER..

 

and 'show me the code' response will not end well FOR YOU the GUN OWNER.. IMHO.

 

 

well then with all due respect I will say that your opinion is worthless.. there is no advantage to "scaring" law abiding gun owners into jumping through any MORE hoops than area already there..

 

I transport my handguns in the trunk of my car unloaded.. and that satisfies that law.. if some rookie class II wants to try to earn his stripes by making an example of me when I am within the law then he is looking for trouble (legal trouble that is) and he is going to find it..

 

I am a NJ resident and have bent over backwards to follow the letter of the law.. that is all I am obligated to do... so that is all I will do..

I was at SS a few months ago and some guy came in with his Glock to have Andy look at it. When he opened the gun case he had the gun and two loaded mags. Andy told him to be careful since having a loaded mag in the case with the gun was the same as having a loaded gun. It made sense to me but I did not say anything?

 

that is NOT accurate.. and someone should educate "Andy" on the rules that exist in the state.. it would be nice if people SELLING GUNS knew what was going on..

@ vlad.. none takin.. you must have deeper pockets than me for lawyers..

 

the standard AS I WAS INFORMED was firearms cased & locked.. and separate from the ammo.. this was back in 1991 by Trenton PD (when I got got my FID) and NUMEROUS DEALERS I have bought firearms from over the years..

 

no laws stating such is just great.. but I'm not testing the waters..

@ vlad.. none takin.. you must have deeper pockets than me for lawyers..

 

the standard AS I WAS INFORMED was firearms cased & locked.. and separate from the ammo.. this was back in 1991 by Trenton PD (when I got got my FID) and NUMEROUS DEALERS I have bought firearms from over the years..

 

no laws stating such is just great.. but I'm not testing the waters..

 

 

you are complying with a nonexistent law... your compliance with said nonexistent law nets you NO advantage... if you "heard" that guns transported in NJ needed to be rendered temporarily inoperable by pulling the bolt carrier/firing pin/ etc.. would you comply because it makes sense? or would you shrug off something so ridiculous?

 

2C:39.........................................

 

g.All weapons being transported under paragraph (2) of subsection b., subsection e., or paragraph (1) or (3) of subsection f. of this section shall be carried unloaded and contained in a closed and fastened case, gunbox, securely tied package, or locked in the trunk of the automobile in which it is being transported, and in the course of travel shall include only such deviations as are reasonably necessary under the circumstances.

 

come on man.. just READ THE LAW..

we are not reinventing atomic technology here... just a little reading..

for the record.. I am not trying to ridicule anyone.. I am instead just illustrating WHY the NJ gun owning public IS in fact our biggest hurdle.. when you have a group of like minded sportsmen who are SO CONDITIONED to comply that they comply with laws that do not even exist simply because "joe smith" once told them it was in fact law, the only direction said group can go is DOWN... at the very least WE should ONLY comply with what is written in LAW.. to take it a step further.. if you are a NJ gun owner who has not read the law in detail.. STOP READING RIGHT NOW.. go read the dam law.. so you know what the hell you are talking about.. print it out... keep it with you ALL the time.. and the next time you hear misinformation.. FIX IT... BE THE PRO GUN GUY THAT ACTUALLY DOES SOMETHING.. educate your peers.. come on guys get it together..

My cousin and I just had a disagreement on this last sunday when I came to the USPSA match with all my mags loaded already. Midway range bag. Loaded mags in the mag compartment thats on the outside of the case. Gun inside sleeve, inside range bag. He said that a loaded magazine is considered a loaded gun. Now I know he was told that or read that by someone repeating some crap they have heard. He does err on the side of caution though.

 

 

He says illegal.

I say no.

 

I know I am right but how do I prove it? Match fee for Sundays USPSA match is riding on it

 

 

want to know the best way?

 

READ THE LAW FOR YOURSELF! lol

 

2C:39.........................................

 

g.All weapons being transported under paragraph (2) of subsection b., subsection e., or paragraph (1) or (3) of subsection f. of this section shall be carried unloaded and contained in a closed and fastened case, gunbox, securely tied package, or locked in the trunk of the automobile in which it is being transported, and in the course of travel shall include only such deviations as are reasonably necessary under the circumstances.

want to know the best way?

 

READ THE LAW FOR YOURSELF! lol

 

 

Duh, I already know that and read it many times. I'm trying to not have to print out every NJ law or statute that pertains to firearms just to prove my point.

Duh, I already know that and read it many times. I'm trying to not have to print out every NJ law or statute that pertains to firearms just to prove my point.

 

You can not live in fear of prosecution when following the law.. not because you may not be prosecuted.. you could be that one in a million case.. but the reason you can not live a life worrying about that is because all it creates is extreme paranoia...

 

imagine if I drove down the street afraid that a cop might pull me over stating I did not stop correctly at a stop sign when I clearly did... there is no reason to be paranoid.. follow the law.. know the law.. and know your rights.. on the OFF chance you ever experience an encounter with law enforcement be polite and firm.. obviously do not answer non relevant questions.. move on with your day... gun is unloaded.. PERIOD.. it is clearly black and white..

I also carry copies of "Ze Paperz!" in case I have to prove I own something.

Copies of the papers do not prove that you own a certain firearm, it means that you purchased and took possession of that firearm.