I was at a BBQ over the weekend with some friends and a few other people that I've met, but don't know too well. Apparently they were planning an indoor range trip, as most of them have no firearms experience, and as it turns out, I'm the only one who actually owns guns.

 

The one guy that's talking about organizing the outing is talking my ear off about how much he shoots .40 at the range. I ask him if he's into reloading, and he assumes I'm talking about loading the gun himself. Then, when he finally understands what I'm asking him, he tells me no, that you need a permit to reload your own ammo.

 

That's when he tells me he only shoots rentals at the range, and only shoots revolvers because he says pistols shoot gas in his face. He also tells me that left handed pistol shooters have to find left handed pistols because otherwise the brass will eject into their face, and that he has friends that have gone to gunsmiths to have their right handed pistols converted.

 

Yeah. Now I don't really want to go to the range with this guy. He also couldn't stop talking about how he works for the government, pretending to be some kind of secret agent.

He's "that guy". Avoid him...

Tell him you are busy....you have to wash your hair.....etc

 

I have "friends" come up to me and ask when I will take them shooting.

 

My reply "yeah, yeah, we'll pick a day in the future". But I never do.

Awww, look at that. You've got yourself a new friend. RUN!

The story is hysterical as well as the replies! But definitely true! Like Malsua said... RUN!

The story is hysterical as well as the replies! But definitely true! Like Malsua said... RUN!

I think I'll be busy that day. I also don't really want to have to babysit three lanes full of first time shooters, all using my guns.

yeah avoid like the plaque! you might get shot from a left handed shooter using a right handed gun!lol!

Is he maybe having fun with you? I would say soething like that to screw with someone.

Wait...so did i get ripped off when i had this guy convert my lefty glock BACK to a standard glock?

He's a gov't agent, he must know everything!

Is he maybe having fun with you? I would say soething like that to screw with someone.

At first I was suspecting that, but in reality, he's kind of a stupid guy. He pretends to be an expert on pretty much every topic, and everyone just takes him with a grain of salt.

sounds like agent 86...

 

That would make you chief...

yeah avoid like the plaque!

 

 

showing you the plaque you must avoid.

 

 

That's when he tells me he only shoots rentals at the range, and only shoots revolvers because he says pistols shoot gas in his face. He also tells me that left handed pistol shooters have to find left handed pistols because otherwise the brass will eject into their face, and that he has friends that have gone to gunsmiths to have their right handed pistols converted.

 

 

I heard thats a real problem with lefties. A buddy of mine had to have all of his fishing poles converted to left hand... geting all his kitchen knives was a pain too... but getting his car converted was nearly impossible.

 

But being serious for a moment, you have an opportunity to help educate someone who obviously has an interest in firearms. He may be the type that doesnt take to education well but I would encourage him to take a class or help him along on your own if you feel comfortable doing it

sounds like agent 86...

 

That would make you chief...

Why can't I get any reception on this shoe?

 

The guy is a regular at our poker games, I'll talk to him again before he wants to go shoot to gauge his experience. I wouldn't mind teaching him, but if that was the case, I'd rather do it one on one and not with four other novice shooters.

That's kinda funny. There are revolvers that use .40 Caliper ammo, I happened to buy one. Can't say that they are common and I have never seen any for rent.

Why can't I get any reception on this shoe?

 

The guy is a regular at our poker games, I'll talk to him again before he wants to go shoot to gauge his experience. I wouldn't mind teaching him, but if that was the case, I'd rather do it one on one and not with four other novice shooters.

 

It depends. I took 3 novice shooters to the range. We only used one port and one firearm, NO NOVICE SHOOTERS ALONE WITH A FIREARM! I supervised the whole time, the RO at Bullet Hole was not only nice, but he took one of the shooters aside and let her (I'm sure it didn't hurt that it was a girl) shoot his side arm and helped teach her a bit more. It was a bit of a slow Saturday at BH, so he had the time. We all took turns and all had good, safe fun.

 

HOWEVER, none of my novice shooters were "Mr. Know-it-all" like you've got. I would gauge his behavior the next time you see him. If he doesn't appear open to instruction, tell him that's one of the conditions of using your guns, that he has to listen to every word you say.

 

It depends on your relationship with the guy, but it's worked well with all the novice shooters that I've introduced to shooting.

 

Good Luck, have fun and stay safe.

Take him to the range, and educate him.

He also tells me that left handed pistol shooters have to find left handed pistols because otherwise the brass will eject into their face, and that he has friends that have gone to gunsmiths to have their right handed pistols converted.

 

 

Tell him he doesn’t need to convert the pistol, just use left handed ammunition. They sell it at the range.

Is he maybe having fun with you? I would say soething like that to screw with someone.

That does sound like something you would say!

 

Either he is goofing with you or serious, either way, avoid him! Shooting guns is serious business!

That does sound like something you would say!

 

Either he is goofing with you or serious, either way, avoid him! Shooting guns is serious business!

 

Avoid him like syphillis. We have all met guys like that. I was at a party and some guys over heard us talking about guns, I never knew there were so many army snipers and CIA agents travleing around NJ teaching guys how to shoot. Everyone had a story. All of them knew nothing about guns (including one that was a cop who tried to tell me anyone could get a CCW in NJ but that the state charges $100,000 apiece. I asked if he was exaggerating the legal fees and he said no, it was the application fee. I also was amazed how many guys could hit a bullseye at 500 yards, amazing. One guy even had an M16, not an AR 15, a full auto M16 that he takes to the Buller Hole?!?!

 

I like spreading the word but sometimes you need to shake your head.

Guys like that have built up the facade around their friends and have to keep it going just to save face.

In my experience it is good to get him alone and tell him " dude you have no idea what you are talking about and it scares me."

 

as long as he knows you think he is full of sgit there is a possibilty you could get him on the right track. But if he has to save face and bs in front of a group I woud never go near it.

There are revolvers that use .40 Caliper ammo, I happened to buy one.

 

No, there aren't. There may be revolvers that use .40 CaliBer ammo, but not .40 caliper.

Going to a Certified Instructor would help our secret agent here.

 

If it were me, I'd get just this one guy to the range to gauge his knowledge. He buys all of the ammo that both of you use, picks up lunch or dinner, and takes care of some cleaning supplies for YOUR guns. Laying-out a C-Note will gauge his interest. Then if he passes muster, you might add a couple people to the mix, but only ONE newbie at a time handling A gun. And you might want to go to a range that doesn't rent guns so nobody gets any ideas about renting their own and sweeping everybody!

 

If all of that can't happen, then you're too busy with extra work, Honey-do projects, etc. and suggest he go to a trainer listed here.

 

Good luck!

Only ONE newbie at a time in my opinion, ever. You know that the trigger guard is a mind control device for new shooters, they MUST stick their finger in there no matter what... A nun with a ruler is a good solution, but barring that, effective and consistent instruction will prevent accidents.

That's kinda funny. There are revolvers that use .40 Caliper ammo, I happened to buy one. Can't say that they are common and I have never seen any for rent.

 

 

Brembo make them???

 

Or would that be Wilwood or SSBC??

 

Harry

if he will not take no for an answer.. your best bet would be to saw your own arms off.. then say sorry.. guess I can't go... that would be far batter than taking that individual to the range..

 

unless of course you have an extremely high level of patience.. then you might want to educate him...

if he will not take no for an answer.. your best bet would be to saw your own arms off.. then say sorry..

 

That made me think of the term "Coyote Ugly". It's when she is so ugly, you cut your arm off to avoid waking her when you leave in the morning.

"Double Coyote Ugly" is when she is so ugly that you cut the other arm off after you leave so the girl doesn't recognize you when she's looking for the one-armed guy.

 

Yeah. Now I don't really want to go to the range with this guy.

Wait, you actually go to the range?

 

Is this someone from OT? Probably not though, everyone there is a triple platinum expert on everything.

 

I'd probably totally steer clear of that outing at all costs.

1. I wouldn't want to deal with the douchebaggery and attitude, whether its under the auspice of supervisor or just one of the gang. No matter what, he'll probably grumble about this or that and butting heads with those people is a near insurmountable obstacle.

2. Don't want to offer up my equipment for thier "abuse", especially from the wrong-handed a**-hatter who would probably very loudly vocalize his disdain for the hardware supplied to keep his image of mr know-it-all. "This gun sucks, i'm not wasting my time with it!"

3. Unless your a member of a private range, you're gonna have to go somewhere busy and divide the time up/money to just take turns babysitting the misery. Its ok with 1 or 2 (if they're open-minded) but big groups mean very little shooting.

 

I do this from time to time but since i belong to a range where its never busy, its ok in that regard. That and i only bring folks with a positive attitude who i know will enjoy the experience. I never do much shooting for myself on those days but its about my guests on those trips so i'm fine with it; I get my fill on other days.

I agree on the 1-1 training/shooting session..

 

you can tell if he/she shoots if LIMP WRIST it and does a FTF or FTE

 

then you can HELP him/her..

 

I have a 21 at work like that.. wants to go every weekend.. and then backs out.. I got tired of it and just told him when he gets HIS OWN rifle/pistol and BUYS ammo.. WE can go..

 

I offered 3 times and then thought about the ammo and the $$ for it.. ugh..