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Norway

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Senseless tragedy.

 

Prayers to the families.

sadly, this is a perfect example of what happens to a pacifist liberal soceity that does not understand the value of self defense.

If there is any kind of solidarity/mourners march to their embassy I may just go.

I suspect all of us feel the deep pain I do about this and find there are no words for it.

 

EDIT: seems they have closed them embassy in NY as part of this.

sadly, this is a perfect example of what happens to a pacifist liberal soceity that does not understand the value of self defense.

 

The irony is that every home that has a male family member between the age of 19 and 40 already has a rifle at their disposal because they take home their gear from national service. However the Obermeister keeps the firing pins.

If there is any kind of solidarity/mourners march to their embassy I may just go.

I suspect all of us feel the deep pain I do about this and find there are no words for it.

 

EDIT: seems they have closed them embassy in NY as part of this.

 

The Norwegian Counsel general is on a high floor in Midtown Manhattan but I believe the Scandinavian Club on Park Avenue is planning something,I'll post if I hear something.

Those poor children all of them are victims and will have emotional scars for life. Why would someone do this? I hope he gets a slow agonizing death.

 

 

I'm Norwegian Born and hold dual citizenship,My family still live there but fortunately it was mid summer vacation week , so Oslo is basically deserted or the causalities from the bombing would have been massive.The issue in Scandinavia right now is the policy of admitting political and economic refugees from every hot spot around the globe and the inability of the refugees to successfully assimilate into a largely xenophobic society. Norway especially is attractive because of it's very generous benefits and social services but there is a growing backlash because Norwegians pay some of the highest taxes in Europe and dislike anyone taking advantage of the system especially if they refuse to assimilate and at the very least learn the language.

There is a growing sentiment especially among the ultra nationalist for closing the borders and a few who is not opposed to using violence.

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I'm Norwegian Born and hold dual citizenship,My family still live there but fortunately it was mid summer vacation week , so Oslo is basically deserted or the causalities from the bombing would have been massive.The issue in Scandinavia right now is the policy of admitting political and economic refugees from every hot spot around the globe and the inability of the refugees to successfully assimilate into a largely xenophobic society. Norway especially is attractive because of it's very generous benefits and social services but there is a growing backlash because Norwegians pay some of the highest taxes in Europe and dislike anyone taking advantage of the system especially if they refuse to assimilate and at the very least learn the language.

 

Oooohk I see now. And here I thought he is just some scam terrorist bastard. Of course !!! It's the immigrants fault . I mean this good Christian Norwegian patriot just wanted to let the Norwegian people and especially the youth know how dangerous it is to let nonwhite, nonarian, nonchristian dirt of the earth to come into their country. Well I guess msg is well received. I better rethink my negative view of the whole nazi ideology ..... Good point my white Nordic brother

Oooohk I see now. And here I thought he is just some scam terrorist bastard. Of course !!! It's the immigrants fault . I mean this good Christian Norwegian patriot just wanted to let the Norwegian people and especially the youth know how dangerous it is to let nonwhite, nonarian, nonchristian dirt of the earth to come into their country. Well I guess msg is well received. I better rethink my negative view of the whole nazi ideology ..... Good point my white Nordic brother

 

I am by no means condoning what he did just offering some insight as to the possible mind set that may have driven him. My family left Norway when I was 7 mainly because of the overt discrimination my mother experienced being of Portuguese/Chinese blood.I lived for a year there in 2009 and realized that I am more American than Norwegian and basically grew weary of having to defend my way of life in the states

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I am by no means condoning what he did just offering some insight as to the possible mind set that may have driven him. My family left Norway when I was 7 mainly because of the overt discrimination my mother experienced being of Portuguese/Chinese blood.I lived for a year there in 2009 and realized that I am more American than Norwegian and basically grew weary of having to defend my way of life in the states

 

Copy that. I apologize for my harsh retoric. At 1st it looked to me as you were trying to shift the blame somewhere else ... And being an immigrant myself, it hit a nerve. .

There is a special place in hell for people like this.

 

Unfortunately in responsible societies we can not do what would be the right thing to people like this and that would be a slow. long and painful death. I feel some crimes are just too unacceptable that, that should be the punishment.

 

Harry

The irony is that every home that has a male family member between the age of 19 and 40 already has a rifle at their disposal because they take home their gear from national service. However the Obermeister keeps the firing pins.

 

 

That's kind of useless. They have good machinist over there don't they?

Copy that. I apologize for my harsh retoric. At 1st it looked to me as you were trying to shift the blame somewhere else ... And being an immigrant myself, it hit a nerve. .

No apologies necessary,It is a hot button topic and I see all sides of the equation even if I disagree with them. The next generation of Norwegians will resemble us here in the states, My nephews is mixed with Chinese,Portuguese,Swedish,Norwegian and Trinidadian and some of their friends are even more mixed so I remain optimistic.

Oooohk I see now. And here I thought he is just some scam terrorist bastard. Of course !!! It's the immigrants fault . I mean this good Christian Norwegian patriot just wanted to let the Norwegian people and especially the youth know how dangerous it is to let nonwhite, nonarian, nonchristian dirt of the earth to come into their country. Well I guess msg is well received. I better rethink my negative view of the whole nazi ideology ..... Good point my white Nordic brother

 

 

Based on the explanation the previous poster made, please reconsider your post.

 

If not you are all F'd up...

Edit: I see you fixed it, Thank You!

There is a special place in hell for people like this.

 

Unfortunately in responsible societies we can not do what would be the right thing to people like this and that would be a slow. long and painful death. I feel some crimes are just too unacceptable that, that should be the punishment.

 

Harry

 

Norway has no death penalty and the max you can be sentenced to is 25 years in prisons that resemble an IKEA showroom.

This sick bastard used a Ruger Mini-14 according to his manifesto and a Glock 9mm.

 

Here is a link to the manifesto he wrote including all he did until yesterday.

 

Rants against Muslims and Multiculturalism as a part of a scheme to get a Templar Army against a Muslim Invasion of Europe.

 

European Declaration Of Independence

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I consider all right-wing extremists >>> nazis / fascists since they share fundamental principles and values, they also share the way they would act on those as well. And nazis showed everybody what happens when that kind of ideology is implemented nation wide.

I consider all right-wing extremists >>> nazis / fascists since they share fundamental principles and values, they also share the way they would act on those as well. And nazis showed everybody what happens when that kind of ideology is implemented nation wide.

So you are kind of like them with their hate, but on the other side?

National Socialists are right wing?

National Socialists are right wing?

 

No. Why do you ask? Breivik is against socialism.

No. Why do you ask? Breivik is against socialism.

 

Because Tuk tuk said

I consider all right-wing extremists >>> nazis / fascists since they share fundamental principles and values,

I consider all >>> nazis / fascists since they share fundamental principles and values, they also share the way they would act on those as well. And nazis showed everybody what happens when that kind of ideology is implemented nation wide.

 

Oh - you're one of THOSE PEOPLE.

 

Jared Loughner, Lee Boyd Malvo, John Allen Muhammed, Seung-Hoi Cho, Nidal Malik Hassan - yeah, they were all "right-wing extremists". :rolleyes:

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WoW nice one guys... Well how about this ....since some of you decided to take a swing at me without really thinking about it .... I will entertain this bs talking for a lil ... I guess you are not really good with history or google for that matter and I dont really care .... Let's start with easy one >>>

Nazism (Nationalsozialismus, National Socialism; alternatively spelled Naziism[1]; historically also Hitlerism,[2] Hitlerismus[3]) was the ideology and practice of the Nazi Party and of Nazi Germany.[4][5][6][7] It was a unique variety of fascism that incorporated biological racism and antisemitism.[8] Nazism presented itself as politically syncretic, incorporating policies, tactics and philosophies from right- and left-wing ideologies, though a majority of scholars hold it to be a far right form of politics.[9]

Fascism was founded by Italian national syndicalists during World War I who combined left-wing and right-wing political views, but it gravitated to the right in the early 1920s.[19][20] Italian Fascists described fascism as a right-wing ideology in their political programme The Doctrine of Fascism.[21][22] The majority of scholars generally consider fascism to be on the far right.[23][24][25][26]

Hang on while I go get some popcorn and beer.

 

Because I know you guys can keep this civil yet entertaining.

Right back atcha

 

Fascism

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (which is a bs source since anyone can edit it at will without repercussions but you used it first...)

 

Fascism is anti-anarchist, anti-communist, anti-conservative, anti-democratic, anti-individualist, anti-liberal, anti-parliamentary, anti-bourgeois, and anti-proletarian.[11] It entails a distinctive type of anti-capitalism and is typically, with a few exceptions, anti-clerical.

 

Let's see - most right wing organizations are conservative, democratic, individual liberty, capitalist and in most cases embrace a higher power, but yeah - what you spewed fits...

 

Sources from such <cough> fine institutions such as Harvard or UC Berkeley telling me how Naziism is right wing is FULL AND TOTAL LIBERAL AZZ BULLDUNG.

I thought it was generally agreed upon that the extreme left was socialism, hippies and the far right was fascism with a very controlling central government.

 

Sometimes political parties take the opposite name. For example, North Korea's official name is the Democratic People's Republic of Korea. Nazis call themselves socialists. It's Orwellian.

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