Oh - you're one of THOSE PEOPLE.

 

Jared Loughner, Lee Boyd Malvo, John Allen Muhammed, Seung-Hoi Cho, Nidal Malik Hassan - yeah, they were all "right-wing extremists".

 

One of THOSE PEOPLE ??? WTF is that suppose to mean?

What's ur point ? That they re all krazy?? Oh Yee that's a really easy explanation. Let's write him off as some krazy guy without no radical ideology. Like Timothy James McVeigh, correct ? Cause for some reason I didn't see his name in ur list.

One of THOSE PEOPLE ??? WTF is that suppose to mean?

What's ur point ? That they re all krazy?? Oh Yee that's a really easy explanation. Let's write him off as some krazy guy without no radical ideology. Like Timothy James McVeigh, correct ? Cause for some reason I didn't see his name in ur list.

 

No - quite simply you're one of those socialist former Europeans who believes in the left wing mantra and believe that only the right wing contains extremists and only the right wing is wrong.

 

So, McVeigh and the guy in Norway - that's your two to my 5 WHICH I THOUGHT OF OFF THE TOP OF MY FREAKIN HEAD?? Or are you somehow going to claim that radical muslims are right wing extremists too?

Yeah - I'm a right wing extremist. Hide your children and your womyn. I'm a danger to myself and society. I cling to my guns and my religion. Don't worry, Obama's coming for me first.

I never heard about the fireing pins being removed,my wifes family is over their and one member is a member of the scandanavian action shooters asso.the last visit they made I got a sasa patch for my vest and sent back a nra hat.as far as I know guns are restricted but available with a licence based on your collecting intrest the husband does cowboy action and hunts with rifle and shotguns the wife does bullseye type shooting

 

Sometimes political parties take the opposite name. For example, North Korea's official name is the Democratic People's Republic of Korea. Nazis call themselves socialists. It's Orwellian.

 

Nazis WERE socialists though. They wanted the state to own all means of production and before Hitler was done, he had pretty much done it. Hitler himself said that National Socialism must distinguish itself by elevating the pride in the state otherwise it would just compete with Marxism which he felt was poisonous because Marxism decentralized power making it inherently corruptible.

 

Here's a quote from Mein Kampf.

If the National Socialist Movement should fail to understand the fundamental importance of this essential principle, if it should merely varnish the external appearance of the present State and adopt the majority principle, it would really do nothing more than compete with Marxism on its own ground. For that reason it would not have the right to call itself a philosophy of life. If the social programme of the movement consisted in eliminating personality and putting the multitude in its place, then National Socialism would be corrupted with the poison of Marxism, just as our national-bourgeois parties are.

you are right-wing extremist? .. haha .. dont kid yourself buddy... i am left wing socialist ??? you make me laugh ... i hate communists / socialists as much as hate right-wing extremists ...they killed my grandfather cause he wasnt sharing their views alhou he went through entire ww2 in the penalty battalion and lived ... do i have something against the Right? nope.. do i have something against right-wing extremists? you bet i do .. who determines who is extremist .. I DO >>> for myself so yee... and they helped, of course, by putting a metal pipe through my skull (and not only).. twice ... 2 vs 5 .. its the points game now? yee ok im not gonna play cause your view of history is connected with conspiracy of left intelligentsia who magically changed everything we know ... what do radical muslims have to do with anything? they are "lets kill everybody" type of guys. they dont have political affiliation ... you see i draw conclusions from my own life, the lives of those around me and, of course, reading reading reading ... and i dont trust anybody to tell the truth .. cause they never do ...

I never heard about the fireing pins being removed,my wifes family is over their and one member is a member of the scandanavian action shooters asso.the last visit they made I got a sasa patch for my vest and sent back a nra hat.as far as I know guns are restricted but available with a licence based on your collecting intrest the husband does cowboy action and hunts with rifle and shotguns the wife does bullseye type shooting

 

If you had bothered to read my post carefully, I remarked that the rifles that the members of the national service were allowed to bring home had their firing pins removed and held by the head of the district's Obermeister. That does not apply to privately held firearms which is allowed to hunters, farmers and members of shooting clubs. I have 3 nephews in the national service at the moment and one who is a NATO qualified sniper,none of which is allowed to have functioning fire arms at the moment.

So you are kind of like them with their hate, but on the other side?

 

now this is a good one ... you are compering me to who exactly? and what "other side"? i mean its a good attempt on ur part .. but really dude? really?

"hate the sin, not the sinner" doesnt really work for me ... who do i apologize to?

AND you can argue as much as you want BUT ... Nazis and Fascists were and always will be the extreme right....

anyways ... lock this thread .. this is not gonna go anywhere pleasant ...

Ok, off-topic/generally worthless posts from here on out will be brought to private messaging if seen as necessary.

All further pointless, incendiary, and useless posts will be removed.

 

As for the events, it's a sad tragedy. I personally don't see this as a "what if" scenario, as regardless of how advanced one's nation is regarding security threats-- this is seemingly one of those unavoidable types. Lone-wolf, domestic loonies are virtually untraceable, and are not easily deterred.

 

While the proverbial horse could be beat, I think what we need to focus on now are how the people who have suffered move forward. Anything past that and we're just kidding ourselves (unless we are one of those smart peoples who work directly on solving this specific problem).

Guys... this tragedy has me pissed off, and so sad for the victims and their families. My prayers go out to them all, too their first responsers, the injured, the witnesses and the people that will suffer in anyway in the near future because of this event.

 

One thing that I would advics against though is using old labels to describe new happenings, this a sure way to get it wrong. You can not apply 75 years old labels to today's happening with accuracy. New events must create their own titles. JLL shoots a congresswoman and multiple others because she is not liberal enough? How about Lee Harvey Oswald? Communist, fascist, right or left wing? Who knows other then he was a psycho created out of an outsiders POV on the world. Incapable of dealing with lifes challenges due to a lack of understanding and empathy for business, casual or friendly relationships.

 

This Anders asshat wished to start a European civil war, sounds pretty freakin nuts to me, not right or left wing. What gets me is that so far this guy is not turning out to be the prototypical loner, the outsider; somewhat the opposite. He is turning out to be just like many of us on this board, conservative somewhat with worries on loss of freedoms, worried about his country, politics and family.

 

This is a bad moment for 2A in this country. Listen to the press screaming about "Dum Dum" bullets... bringin up old hystrionics. I was at dinner last night and my BIL that is not a gun owner or fan, asked me about JHPs... "Yes they are designed to mushroom and fragment on impact to inflict as much damage as possible." and "Yes that armed forces do not use such bullets and they are against the rules of warfare set forth in the Hague Conventions, predating the Geneva Convention". How do you fight this?

 

Watch what happens... this is not good.

Guys... this tragedy has me pissed off, and so sad for the victims and their families. My prayers go out to them all, too their first responsers, the injured, the witnesses and the people that will suffer in anyway in the near future because of this event.

 

One thing that I would advics against though is using old labels to describe new happenings, this a sure way to get it wrong. You can not apply 75 years old labels to today's happening with accuracy. New events must create their own titles. JLL shoots a congresswoman and multiple others because she is not liberal enough? How about Lee Harvey Oswald? Communist, fascist, right or left wing? Who knows other then he was a psycho created out of an outsiders POV on the world. Incapable of dealing with lifes challenges due to a lack of understanding and empathy for business, casual or friendly relationships.

 

This Anders asshat wished to start a European civil war, sounds pretty freakin nuts to me, not right or left wing. What gets me is that so far this guy is not turning out to be the prototypical loner, the outsider; somewhat the opposite. He is turning out to be just like many of us on this board, conservative somewhat with worries on loss of freedoms, worried about his country, politics and family.

 

This is a bad moment for 2A in this country. Listen to the press screaming about "Dum Dum" bullets... bringin up old hystrionics. I was at dinner last night and my BIL that is not a gun owner or fan, asked me about JHPs... "Yes they are designed to mushroom and fragment on impact to inflict as much damage as possible." and "Yes that armed forces do not use such bullets and they are against the rules of warfare set forth in the Hague Conventions, predating the Geneva Convention". How do you fight this?

 

Watch what happens... this is not good.

I completely agree with this post, well said!

 

Dave