From the front page of the NY Times today, a picture of Russian President Dmitri A. Medvedev holding "a sniper rifle during a visit to a military brigade in southern Russia."

 

I know that you can still buy new AKs but I didn't realize that current military production still looks the same, with wood stock and an old-fashioned looking scope!

 

 

Interesting looking barrel, too!

 

(And what's the deal with those hats? I know that military costumes around the world are pretty wacky, but those super tall hats make the guys look silly.)

VSS vintorez, its related to the AS

 

It actually has no mechanical similarities with the AK series except that its long stroke. It has 6 locking lugs instead of 3, striker fired instead of hammer, etc

 

I want!

That is really freakin sweet looking, I want one too....

Poor poor poor trigger discipline.

can not in any way get.. sad..

Even if we could get it, we cant get the ammo

9x39 cartridge?

That thing's made to be quiet!

Yeah, from the ground up its a supressed weapon. Super quiet and effective. The 9x39 round has a ~250 grain projectile to produce good effects at subsonic velocities.

Too bad range is somewhat limited. 300-400 meters...

Too bad range is somewhat limited. 300-400 meters...

 

330-440 yards...more distance than any other subsonic I have heard of

Too bad range is somewhat limited. 300-400 meters...

Yes but look at the size of it. That thing is as small as, or smaller, than a CX4. 400 meters with a suppressed weapon that small, and a 250gr round......sign me up!!

Not in any way shape or form even close to AK, except for a few vague visual similarities.

 

If gun owners mistake anything Russian and stamped with an AK, why should the media do any better?

Not in any way shape or form even close to AK, except for a few vague visual similarities.

 

If gun owners mistake anything Russian and stamped with an AK, why should the media do any better?

 

I covered that in the first reply on this thread

 

But..you arent %100 right. They are both long stroke gas systems. an SVD is actually further from an AK than this is. The SVD is short stroke...

If gun owners mistake anything Russian and stamped with an AK, why should the media do any better?

 

Read the first post. I did not say it was an AK, just that it looked like one.

looks like there was not alot of reading done by a particular poster....lol

i love the VSS i want one. To bad ill never have one.. It looks nothing like an AK not even close. But hey I'm dyslexic

President Medvedev likes his weaponry:

 

 

Heather SR-2 submachine gun

 

 

Unknown

 

 

handgun

 

 

Grenade launcher

 

 

and finally a real AK.

Chk this one out .....

 

 

I love that Russian President... He's a real gun guy. Lol. That guy is awesome! Lol. Some of you guys amaze me with your knowledge of unattainable and rare firearms. I mean... I follow gun sh^t to a certain degree and I never even heard of 9x39. Thats awesome that you know what that is. I constantly learn a lot from you guys and I've owned and operated firearms since I was a kid and I'm 39 now. Cool post and pics.

Looks like another piece of Russian junk to me. If you want whisper quiet .45 performance out to several hundred yards then use .300 AAC. If you don't care about sonic crack then there is a can for everything.

"Another piece of Russian junk"? Let's take your AR, and my Saiga, and submerge them in water, then bury them in mud, then bury them in sandy dirt......then throw each 20 feet into a pile of rocks, and then see who's gun still fires.

Speaking of, I want to do all that with my Saiga anyway.....just 'cause.

Speaking of, I want to do all that with my Saiga anyway.....just 'cause.

 

I threw mine in the dirt and snow.. then put snow over top of it.. pulled up gun and dumped mag..

I threw mine in the dirt and snow.. then put snow over top of it.. pulled up gun and dumped mag..

You're my hero LOL!! I'm serious. I think it would be really cool, just to see that I can actually do it.

You're my hero LOL!! I'm serious. I think it would be really cool, just to see that I can actually do it.

in understanding the gun.. it really was no surprise that a little dirt and snow and it still ran.. be cautious the barrel is not obstructed.. but besides that I highly doubt you will observe any failure..

I mean... I follow gun sh^t to a certain degree and I never even heard of 9x39.

The VSS Vintorez was designed to replace the Dragunov SVD after the Bezlan school massacre for medium range precision engagements. Especially when stealth is key to success. And the 9x39 MM cartridge was designed for this purpose. Just as deadly as the Dragunov when in the hands of trained Spetznaz marksmen. And with the barrel being one huge suppressor, its absurdly quiet. The round its self has a lessened chance of over penetration as compared to other rounds.

 

I want one SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO bad!

Guys, it's easy to get your hands on one, I was shooting one last night. Just download Battlefield Bad Company 2. Psh.

You're my hero LOL!! I'm serious. I think it would be really cool, just to see that I can actually do it.

 

 

as an additional note.. the optic was equally unaffected.. no drop in intensity.. no shorting out.. no fog... (Aimpoint H1)

 

just saying..

See I want to do it before (if I even do) put an expensive optic on it, just to be safe.