Tell me I'm not alone in the love for this show.. Season two 90 minute special today, tho a zombie apocalypse is unlikely it doesn't hurt to be prepared, am I right?

YOU are not alone!

This 12 page thread located in the ZOMBIE subforum here should tell you all you need to know.

 

http://njgunforums.com/forum/index.php?/topic/19550-the-walking-dead/

Broke down and updated one of my iPhones today and then checked everything out, just happen to load up NetFlix and saw that they have all the the walking dead episodes available to stream to you iPhone or iPad, just in case you wanted to watch them on the go.

 

Harry

 

 

Watching it now...gotta love On Demand

I love that show.

I love it. I had to put it aside to Watch Dexter though.

 

Ill watch it on demand when I get out of work.

Oh,

 

I thought this was a thread about Lautenberg.

 

Nevermind

Joel Stillerman is an AMC corporate bean counter dillweed that will steer Walking Dead right into a ditch. There's a reason why the first season was good. This tool has no idea what makes something creative and interesting. Maybe we'll get lucky and he has an aneurysm.

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http://screenrant.com/walking-dead-frank-darabont-amc-aco-127783/

 

While the news of Frank Darabont being fired from ‘The Walking Dead’ was shocking, the story behind why he was fired may be even more so.

 

The news of Frank Darabont stepping down from AMC’s hit series The Walking Dead took everyone by surprise. This feeling grew even more when it was revealed that Darabont didn’t step down, but was actually fired.

 

With fans seeking to find out why the man who championed last year’s television phenomenon was unceremoniously fired days after appearing at Comic-Con 2011, The Hollywood Reporter is presenting the facts as they know them – including the chaotic mess in which The Walking Dead season 2 currently finds itself.

 

Shortly after his appearance at Comic-Con, Darabont returned to Los Angeles to work on editing an episode of the upcoming second season of The Walking Dead. With the cast in Atlanta to continue filming, Ben Davis, AMC vice-president of scripted programming, gathered the cast together for a lunch meeting. In this meeting, he broke the news that Darabont had been fired. With a simple explanation of “This isn’t working,” sources close to the series said that “It’s a crushing blow” and that “Even when you have a hit, they can still destroy you.”

 

Even though The Walking Dead proved to be a hit – and it is the only series that AMC owns completely – the network had already announced to the producers that they would not only be cutting the budget of the series from $3.4 million to $2.7 million, but that they would also want 13 episodes produced instead of 6 episodes that made up its first season. To make matters worse, AMC also told the producers that the 30% tax credit that the series receives from filming in Georgia would go directly to the network, and not make up for some of the money that was taken out of the production budget.

 

The Walking Dead - Comic-Con 2010The Walking Dead @ Comic-Con

 

AMC’s fiscal irresponsibility and their lack of appreciation for those who make The Walking Dead is largely what led to Darabont being fired. Originally taking the announcement of a second season budget cut in stride, the producers of the series decided to wait until the first season premiered. After The Walking Dead began breaking ratings records for the network, the producers assumed their budget wouldn’t be cut as much as originally thought.

 

Unfortunately, this is exactly what happened – and Darabont wasn’t too happy about it. Known as a man who fights for what he believes in, a confrontation between AMC and The Walking Dead producers occurred. With the head of original programming for AMC, Joel Stillerman, sticking to the cut budget, the network than began to overstep their bounds and attempt to tell Darabont how to produce the series.

 

Instead of long, sprawling outdoor scenes, the network wanted the second season of The Walking Dead to occur 50% outdoors and 50% indoors (indoors being cheaper to film). Another note asked whether or not the audience had to always see the zombies – couldn’t they simply hear them sometimes.

 

Jack Stillerman AMCHead of Original Production for AMC Jack Stillerman (on the right)

 

It’s been said that Darabont was involved in constant battles with the network to maintain the creative vision that drew so many fans to the series in the first place. On top of that, sources say that Darabont “doesn’t like to see the cast and crew overworked and underpaid.” Even with record ratings on their side, Darabont would repeatedly enter meetings with Stillerman where he would simply say, “Ratings have no bearing on this conversation.” Stillerman is somewhat known for not being the “best person” to deal with. With rumors persisting that he has poor relationships with most of AMC’s series creators, insiders have begun to say that “Joel [stillerman] thinks he is responsible for the success of shows on AMC, and not the creators.”

 

With AMC making a leap into the forefront of scripted television, there’s always been a sense of the network going through growing pains. Not only is AMC doing it on their own (they have no parent company to support them), but they’re also trying to maintain a quality which rivals that of their pay-cable counterparts, HBO and Showtime.

 

Unfortunately, AMC only makes 60 cents for each cable subscriber, which isn’t enough to maintain the level of quality they were once able to do when they weren’t expected to pay the same amount as the other networks for programming. That being said, it’s hard to really stand up for a network that’s being championed by someone who’s a complete contrarian to the creative process.

 

walking dead comic cast season 2The cast of The Walking Dead

 

Even if AMC was trying to do what’s best for the network (without having to operate at a loss – something that HBO does, but is evened out by HBO being owned by Time Warner), there comes a point when taking a loss for the quality of the product is more important for the long term.

 

As the saying goes, “Good things come to those who wait.”

 

AMC has been waiting a long time to make it this far. Jumping from simply replaying old movies to creating original content – this all comes with a price. While not everything will make the financial return that you’re hoping for, it rarely does when you’re first starting out. And for AMC, they’re most certainly starting out.

 

Hopefully AMC will make it through these growing pains intact. If not, you can sure bet that there are many other cable networks willing to take over in the place (and have the money to do it).

 

Now that Glen Mazzara is taking over for Frank Darabont, we’ll have to wait and see what happens when The Walking Dead season 2 premieres.

 

Fingers crossed.

Watched it all last season, and started to watch the new shows....On thing that bugs me....WTF is up with the shitty camper? It breaks down all the time....must use up a ton of gas....and its a total P.O.S......Everyone is dead...society has collapsed...go to a RV dealer and pick out any brand new friggin RV that ya want...and just drive it away....it willbe brand new...wont break down constantly and probably be better on gas..plus it would also be more secure.....Just saying...

Watched it all last season, and started to watch the new shows....On thing that bugs me....WTF is up with the shitty camper? It breaks down all the time....must use up a ton of gas....and its a total P.O.S......Everyone is dead...society has collapsed...go to a RV dealer and pick out any brand new friggin RV that ya want...and just drive it away....it willbe brand new...wont break down constantly and probably be better on gas..plus it would also be more secure.....Just saying...

 

I must have said that half a dozen times to my wife Sunday night. GEEZUS WILL YOU GET A NEW RV FOR CHRISSAKES, THEY'RE FREE, THEY'RE EVERYWHERE, PICK ONE!

Watched it all last season, and started to watch the new shows....On thing that bugs me....WTF is up with the shitty camper? It breaks down all the time....must use up a ton of gas....and its a total P.O.S......Everyone is dead...society has collapsed...go to a RV dealer and pick out any brand new friggin RV that ya want...and just drive it away....it willbe brand new...wont break down constantly and probably be better on gas..plus it would also be more secure.....Just saying...

I also watched all last season. Caught the season premiere on Sunday, and I'm giving up on the show.

Time is too short to waste on bad TV. Erased this one and Fox's Terra Nova from my FIOS series manager list.

I watched a bit of this for the first time on Sunday night. It looked like there would be just a few minutes of the show, then several minutes of commercial time. Seems like a ratio that would get pretty annoying. Luckily, I had it DVR'd so I was able to FF through the commercials.

I also watched all last season. Caught the season premiere on Sunday, and I'm giving up on the show.

Time is too short to waste on bad TV. Erased this one and Fox's Terra Nova from my FIOS series manager list.

 

I caught it finally it On Demand and kept my finger on Fast Forward button for a large part of the show.I'll give it perhaps 1 or 2 more episodes before giving up. Too many rambling and painfully melodramatic monologs, over the top lapses in logic {They're in Atlanta right? and still can't find more firearms as yet?} all those abandoned vehicles and they're still driving around in a 30 year old RV and beat up jeep?

yeah about the vehicles used... Y the fugg is that guy on a chopper.. did he pick the loudest vehicle he could possible find to attract more walkers... and whats up with the zombies sitting casually at church?

Rena and I love this show, which is a big deal becuase she isn't exactly a zombie fan. But the show's writing, character development and acting is superb making it a very high quality drama. Plus, I appreciate the better than average accuracy for firearms topics.

 

I have not seen the gratuitous cocking motion or clickety sound effect you usually see in movies when someone aims a Glock.

If AMC messes up this show, I will definitely never watch anything on there again. The first season was phenomenal. The episode on sunday was pretty damn good, although I agree with whoever made the comment about the melodrama being just a bit much. After what I just read about Frank Darabont though, I'm a bit worried about how this will eventually turn out.

OK....it's official. The Walking Dead has now morphed into a grubbier version of "Days of our Lives". We have flashbacks,illicit romance,long winded monologs,far off gazes into the horizon, May/December unrequited love,terminally missing child,unwanted pregnancy......the only thing missing is a bout of amnesia and ...Oh Yeah....ZOMBIES!!!!!

 

I give up...back to reruns of Ugly Americans.

I am very disappointed so far this season. I'm just about to give up

On it

I think this season is far and away better than the last one. Depending on how they pace the show versus the comic book, slaughterfests (zombie and otherwise) will only happen every three or four episodes. The rest of the time is about them surviving. One of the things about the comic was the ruthlessness of their world. Popular characters would unexpectedly get killed off and everyone had to deal with it. We haven't seen that yet really. I am hoping they don't back off that aspect of the show.

Yeah Chris, that makes sense...I like when unexpected things happen in shows to mix it up !....

 

I like the more GLOBAL aspect at times...for example when the last show opened you could see them dropping napalm in Atlanta...

 

Rogue zombie chewing on a boot is lame... ...

Been a great season so far. They just need to keep an eye on the pacing. If it slows down to a crawl like last season, well, I won't be taking the time to watch it myself.

To reiterate though, if people are expecting a Resident Evil movie, of course they'll be disappointed-- that was never the concept, ever, going back to the source material. Anybody familiar with the show 'Jericho' would not be disappointed as it is more in-line with that.

 

And to add, there is a crazy long, ongoing thread here: http://njgunforums.com/forum/index.php?/topic/19550-the-walking-dead/

I'll probably end up merging these two threads.

I think this season is far and away better than the last one. Depending on how they pace the show versus the comic book, slaughterfests (zombie and otherwise) will only happen every three or four episodes. The rest of the time is about them surviving. One of the things about the comic was the ruthlessness of their world. Popular characters would unexpectedly get killed off and everyone had to deal with it. We haven't seen that yet really. I am hoping they don't back off that aspect of the show.

 

I respect your take and insight on the larger aspects of the script and timing of the show but quite frankly if I wanted to experience the infinite battle of the human psyche in a hostile world... I'll tune into the Republican Debates. Zombies are all about the blood and gore, that in essence is why they are so popular.To intellectualize and humanize the whole zombie experience is IMO a mistake and only leads to more boring television.

I respect your take and insight on the larger aspects of the script and timing of the show but quite frankly if I wanted to experience the infinite battle of the human psyche in a hostile world... I'll tune into the Republican Debates. Zombies are all about the blood and gore, that in essence is why they are so popular.To intellectualize and humanize the whole zombie experience is IMO a mistake and only leads to more boring television.

 

considering the popularity of zombies right now, I think you'll be getting your wish at some point in the near future. I guarantee someone will be making a zombie mayhem type show soon.

considering the popularity of zombies right now, I think you'll be getting your wish at some point in the near future. I guarantee someone will be making a zombie mayhem type show soon.

 

Please..I'm not waiting with money in hand and bated breath at my local cineplex in anticipation of the next gory offering .I just wished that the producers of TWD would resist the pull of turning what was a fun show into an Emmy contender for the most rambling monologs and inane subplots.

Critics are already predicting a abbreviated run unless it retains it's core audience and it's not going to accomplish that by focusing on rewarmed soap opera scripting.The Walking Dead may be referring increasingly to the unaffected characters in the show.

Ha, how is humanizing and intellectualizing the whole survival experience not interesting? As it's been said, repeatedly, the concept of the show is not zombies, but that the zombies are a vessel of the types of danger present.

 

Think a natural disaster like Hurricane Katrina. The zombies present in TWD equate to the actual disaster, but the real story has to do with the process of surviving, what it means to survive, dealing with loss, and dealing with other human issues. Heck, the title of the show refers to the people and not the zombies.

 

While some of the cinematography might be a bit yuppie at times, it does create, for most, a sort of emotion. For those who look at things objectively, maybe not so much. But that emotion is key to the overall progression-- same could be said about some of the character development, regarding the melodrama.

 

As I've said since before the show even started, if people are concerned that this isn't zombie enough for them, they're approaching the whole show wrong. This show is not about zombies. Its a show that takes place in a zombie world. I don't understand how people don't get that.

Ha, how is humanizing and intellectualizing the whole survival experience not interesting? As it's been said, repeatedly, the concept of the show is not zombies, but that the zombies are a vessel of the types of danger present.

 

Think a natural disaster like Hurricane Katrina. The zombies present in TWD equate to the actual disaster, but the real story has to do with the process of surviving, what it means to survive, dealing with loss, and dealing with other human issues. Heck, the title of the show refers to the people and not the zombies.

 

While some of the cinematography might be a bit yuppie at times, it does create, for most, a sort of emotion. For those who look at things objectively, maybe not so much. But that emotion is key to the overall progression-- same could be said about some of the character development, regarding the melodrama.

 

As I've said since before the show even started, if people are concerned that this isn't zombie enough for them, they're approaching the whole show wrong. This show is not about zombies. Its a show that takes place in a zombie world. I don't understand how people don't get that.

 

I "get" it.. but the core question is and will always remain, is it good,entertaining television? For you and others perhaps who delve deeply into the human experience, it is. I ,being of more base emotions and entertainment criteria find it tiring.

I wish I could watch this show... I tried twice and just couldn't get into it.. seemed like a lot of sub par acting, which kind of killed it for me? maybe I just watched at a bad time?

I wish I could watch this show... I tried twice and just couldn't get into it.. seemed like a lot of sub par acting, which kind of killed it for me? maybe I just watched at a bad time?

 

Ironically the lead is a quite accomplished British Shakespearean actor.One would hope the Olde Bailey is still hiring next season.

Ironically the lead is a quite accomplished British Shakespearean actor.

 

maybe just bad timing? or maybe just not what I expected?