Ive had my G17 gen 4 for around 3 months now and it was having a FTE every 50 rounds or so and i thought it had to do with the new spring system that they adopted since it happened the first day that i shot it. I thought this until i received the new spring and it was still happening so i called Glock and they said it was the ejector so they emailed me a prepaid fedex overnight label and it got there this morning they said it will be around two weeks before i get it back. i will keep you all updated

You're not the first one with ejector issues. They'll have you fixed in a jiff.

 

Glock perfection, except when it isn't.

Ive had my G17 gen 4 for around 3 months now and it was having a FTE every 50 rounds or so and i thought it had to do with the new spring system that they adopted since it happened the first day that i shot it. I thought this until i received the new spring and it was still happening so i called Glock and they said it was the ejector so they emailed me a prepaid fedex overnight label and it got there this morning they said it will be around two weeks before i get it back. i will keep you all updated

 

 

Good to know. I have not seen this issue with my gen4 g17. I hope they get it fixed. They may even throw in a mag for your troubles.

Good to know. I have not seen this issue with my gen4 g17. I hope they get it fixed. They may even throw in a mag for your troubles.

 

I have seen a report that the ejector for the Gen 4 were at a slightly off angle

if that makes any sense. But the problem is easily fixed.

Yet another trouble free glock 17 4th gen.

 

 

Glocks are great guns, but not the holy grail. .

Yet another trouble free glock 17 4th gen.

 

 

Glocks are great guns, but not the holy grail. .

 

My Glock 26 has been flawless! Except when it jammed.

As I mentioned in my "which 9mm thread", I've quickly come to learn that most Gen-4 models are plagued with issues of the spring and ejector. Sure, Glock it taking care of this, but to those who don't know about it and were sold on the infamous "Glock is the most reliable gun in the world" kool-aid bath, a bit of surpris has surfaced. I just hope no one has been injured or lost their life because of this.

My Glock 26 has been flawless! Except when it jammed.

 

 

Lmfao, that is borderline signature material!

As I mentioned in my "which 9mm thread", I've quickly come to learn that most Gen-4 models are plagued with issues of the spring and ejector. Sure, Glock it taking care of this, but to those who don't know about it and were sold on the infamous "Glock is the most reliable gun in the world" kool-aid bath, a bit of surpris has surfaced. I just hope no one has been injured or lost their life because of this.

 

"Most"? You only hear about the handful of people that had problems. What you don't hear is the 100,000+ that don't have problems.

I had a problem.with a gen 4 23 with fte, ftf, and what not, new spring came shot 300 rounds no problem. Not very happy with.the.glock though, maybe getting a khar .40

With that 1.0 vs. 2.0 culture thing, I'm never sure what "sick" means anymore. "Sick" means something different to my teenage kids than it does to me.

 

"Most"? You only hear about the handful of people that had problems. What you don't hear is the 100,000+ that don't have problems.

 

 

I'm not arguing with you, just telling you what I've read and seen. Glock must know something since they sumbitted that letter to its dealers

recently for the one issue. They claim all but 2 Gen-4 model are included, so I consider that to be most as I stated above. Anyway, I was just trying to be helpful, not get into a pissing contest with you or anyone else.

 

 

 

 

Subject: FW: GLOCK Armorer's RECOIL SPRING ASSEMBLY notice

 

 

 

Sent: Tue Sep 06 07:51:37 2011

Subject: GLOCK Armorer's RECOIL SPRING ASSEMBLY notice

 

GLOCK, Inc.

U.S.A.

 

 

GLOCK, Inc. P.O. Box 369

Smyrna, Georgia 30081 U.S.A.

 

Fax. (770) 433-8719

Tel. (770) 432-1202

 

 

Dear GLOCK Armorer:

 

On September 6, 2011, GLOCK Inc. will begin voluntarily exchanging the recoil spring assembly (RSA) on its new Gen4 pistols shipped since 2009 GLOCK’s product development team has modified various elements of the RSA to ensure each pistol’s performance meets the company’s demanding standards. With several variations of the RSA in the market today, GLOCK’s goal with this voluntary exchange is to standardize the RSA to gain the best possible performance in each pistol.

 

Armorers should note that Gen4 G26 and G27 models will not require a modified recoil spring.

 

The new RSA’s all have unique markings on the base of the part. The enclosed chart is designed to help you readily identify the correct RSA for your pistol.

 

Unless a directive is mandated by your agency or your store, the replacement of the Gen4 pistol’s RSA can be performed as part of the regular field-strip process. Agencies or Consumer’s wishing to participate in the exchange program at no charge are urged to call 1-877-745-8523 to order their new RSA.

 

For more information on the details of the exchange program, visit www.TEAMGLOCK.com.

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"Most"? You only hear about the handful of people that had problems. What you don't hear is the 100,000+ that don't have problems.

 

And what percentage of those 100,000+ actually know a faulty design when they see it? =P

 

There are documented issues, and having Glock put out a voluntary recall.... should clear it up.

And what percentage of those 100,000+ actually know a faulty design when they see it? =P

 

There are documented issues, and having Glock put out a voluntary recall.... should clear it up.

 

Not sure why they haven't yet. Ruger has done it more than once on the SR9 and another new product (not sure which one). They paid for the shipping, and included a brand new magazine for your troubles. That's customer service!

Glock wouldn't give me anything lol

everybody has recalls or will eventually

 

everybody has fanbois...

 

Glock seems to be taking the cake lately in both categories.

 

I am not convinced of the Glock Hype. Though holding a G24 long slide yesterday was interesting. Might need to try that.

And what percentage of those 100,000+ actually know a faulty design when they see it? =P

 

There are documented issues, and having Glock put out a voluntary recall.... should clear it up.

 

 

Faulty design? The only difference between Gen 3 and Gen 4 is adjustable grip, and a dual recoil spring setup. Was the Gen 3 a faulty design? The Gen 4's were just sprung too heavy for practice ammo. As was Beretta's new PX4 Compact 9mm.

 

Don't knock them until you try them. I used to be a Glock hater too, but after I bought my Glock 23 Gen 4, I changed my mind real fast.

 

You can also go to a Sig forum and find complaints, as you can for CZ, Spingfield, S&W, etc, etc.....

 

The pistol I find the least complaints about is the Beretta 92.....

Faulty design? The only difference between Gen 3 and Gen 4 is adjustable grip, and a dual recoil spring setup. Was the Gen 3 a faulty design? The Gen 4's were just sprung too heavy for practice ammo. As was Beretta's new PX4 Compact 9mm.

 

Don't knock them until you try them. I used to be a Glock hater too, but after I bought my Glock 23 Gen 4, I changed my mind real fast.

 

You can also go to a Sig forum and find complaints, as you can for CZ, Spingfield, S&W, etc, etc.....

 

The pistol I find the least complaints about is the Beretta 92.....

 

I have owned my share of glocks thank you very much.. =)

 

And yes, the Dual spring setup is causing new issues, hence why the recall.

 

And lets not forget the Glock KB. =P

 

I personally don't care if anyone owns a glock or not. I am perhaps the biggest Kool Aid Drinker, I got a Glock in a Glock 45. =P The G37.

 

Are they reliable, sure... but not the be all almighty that kool aid drinkers make them seem to be.

 

In 40 cal, I would easily buy any other gun other than a G23.

 

Disclosure... I have owned a Glock 23 and still have a POS G37. =P

man I was just shooting my 10mm glock 20 3rd gen this weekend, she, runs flawlessly with all kinds of ammo good and even with the cheap stuff, no problems at all!

 

And lets not forget the Glock KB. =P

 

Disclosure... I have owned a Glock 23 and still have a POS G37. =P

 

 

POS G37: You sound very biased

 

Every Glock KB I saw on the "Internet" either had an aftermarket barrel or the operator was using their own hand loaded ++p+++++++ rounds.

 

Just to be fair: M&P ("the what Glock should be gun"). Can happen to the best of them.

 

 

 

HK

 

PX4

 

Revolver

Just pointing out the obvious.

 

Like I said , any gun can go bad, yes, any gun can kb with user error. My whole point with any Glock Block joke is to keep reality in check. A glock is a good handgun, but not some be all gun.

 

They work for some, but not for others. For me....

 

The ergonomics are junk,

The trigger is mush,

And not astheatically pleasing.

 

As a reloader it bothers me that the chamber is not fully supported, and 40 cal brass gets over worked.

 

Even though people should not be stupid and make sure the gun is clear, I hate pulling the trigger to clean the gun.

 

And most of all, listening to all the kool aide.

 

The ergonomics are junk,

The trigger is mush,

And not astheatically pleasing.

 

 

 

Ergonomics: The biggest drawback for most. The Compact Gen4 ergos are much better than the Full Size. I got used to it though.

 

Trigger: I really dont consider stiker fired pistols to have a trigger. I look at them as a on/off switch. PX4-Now thats a trigger.

 

Asthetics: Well, they photograph nicely

 

Glock: Not perfect, I just can find a better one

1911, that's a trigger.

 

Seriously, have you shot any HK's, sigs, decent 1911, cz, cz clones? Any of them will be as reliable, have far better ergonomics, and a far better on/off switch as you call it.

 

Here is the best part, with so many choices, you should not have to live with Glock ergonomics, or a mushy "on off switch."

 

I have owned my glock for for over a year now, shot it twice, and the only reason I still own it, is because I am a sucker for the 45 gap round, and it matches the springfield xd quite nicely. If I wake up or someone gives me a reality check, or someone was stupid enough to buy a Glock 37, I would sell it in a heart beat...... With a ton of 45 gap brass.

1911, that's a trigger.

 

Seriously, have you shot any HK's, sigs, decent 1911, cz, cz clones? Any of them will be as reliable, have far better ergonomics, and a far better on/off switch as you call it.

 

Here is the best part, with so many choices, you should not have to live with Glock ergonomics, or a mushy "on off switch."

 

I have owned my glock for for over a year now, shot it twice, and the only reason I still own it, is because I am a sucker for the 45 gap round, and it matches the springfield xd quite nicely. If I wake up or someone gives me a reality check, or someone was stupid enough to buy a Glock 37, I would sell it in a heart beat...... With a ton of 45 gap brass.

 

 

I'd consider buying that with the brass. I did like it when you brought it to BA after getting it. I remeber when you bought it. If I was drinking the kool aid then, I woulda hit buds up for it also.

 

 

 

Back on track, while I like 1911's, my favorite trigger in any gun I own is my West German Sig P228. It is the nicest OTB trigger I have. I have a few guns with trigger work done and they are nice but they were worked. I do wanna do something to my Glock t o make the trigger crisp. It is still alil mushy. I am used to it and I think that is what most do.

just got off the phone with glock they said that it was logged in this morning and may possibly have it by the end of the week but most likely the beginning of next and i asked about receiving a extra mag for the problems and the tech support guy said he will try and see if they can throw a mag in for me so i will keep you posted with more when i find out

 

 

The ergonomics are junk,

The trigger is mush,

And not astheatically pleasing.

 

And most of all, listening to all the kool aide.

 

The funny thing is I find the Glock the least comfortable ergo-wise.

The bulge in the handles is too much, I wish it were flatter.

 

The triggers are very staple gunish and my 26 has that narrow, grooved

trigger that makes things worse.

 

Aesthetically they look like boxes. Kinda like a kindergarten student's

best interpretation of a pistol.

 

But for some reason I shoot them all very well and they are very accurate

for me. Beware of the Glock-aid. Before you know if they will suck you

into their cult and there is no turning back.

1911, that's a trigger.

 

Seriously, have you shot any HK's, sigs, decent 1911, cz, cz clones? Any of them will be as reliable, have far better ergonomics, and a far better on/off switch as you call it.

 

Here is the best part, with so many choices, you should not have to live with Glock ergonomics, or a mushy "on off switch."

 

 

Yes, I have tried Sig and HK. I just cant justify the huge premiums over Glock an Beretta. Especially since they do not do anything better than their less expensive counterparts. Id rather spend $500 on a pistol and the other $400-$500 on ammo. BTW, Glock ergos are not a problem for me, I am very comfortable with the Glock "angle".

The Glock is a natural pointer for me as well. Without drinking the Glock Koolaid (I prefer TEA anyway), there probably is no better more durable, utilarian piece of metal and plastic with a trigger. There are nicer handling and better looking guns, and there are certainly more expensive ones, but nothing is better than a Glock on a variety of levels: value (price vs. what you get), reliability, ease of use, dependability, durability, available armorer's, parts and user-friendly work, sight and holster availability, lightness, capacity, color , and the list goes on and on. As a range gun, I might prefer something else. For aestetics there are better things, including revolvers, but for SHTF on a relative budget, I'll sip that TEA.

 

My ONLY complaints are that it is that it doesn't come with the OPTION of installing/removing a thumb safety and that Glock doesn't make a steel-framed one, or a red, white and blue one!

I love Sigs and nice 1911s but I shoot my Glock 19 the best. I think like others it is the grip angle and it just works for me. I have no issues with the ergonomics, I added an extended slide release from the G34/35 and also the extended mag release. It works perfectly for me and I love how the trigger pull is consistent starting from the first shot. I just recently acquired a G19Gen4 and the grip size and trigger reach is now perfect.

 

I left my range bag with the G19 in my basement and after about a few weeks I realized the bag was somehow in a puddle. The bag was damp and smells like mildew and the gun was wet. I was initially worried but upon close inspection it had not one trace of rust. I would not want that to happen to any of my Sigs or 1911s.

 

I have 2 HKs right now, a USP Mk23 and a P7. I'm not a big fan of the USP trigger, the DA is extremely heavy and the SA is not that great. The decocker of the USP is also really awkward to use compared to Sigs. I tried out a P30 and I think it does have one of the best grips and the SA pull is on par with a newer 226 but for me I'll shoot it no better than the 226. I do want to get a light LEM trigger version later on since I like the idea of a consistent trigger pull and the ability for a second strike.

I love Sigs and nice 1911s but I shoot my Glock 19 the best. I think like others it is the grip angle and it just works for me. I have no issues with the ergonomics, I added an extended slide release from the G34/35 and also the extended mag release. It works perfectly for me and I love how the trigger pull is consistent starting from the first shot. I just recently acquired a G19Gen4 and the grip size and trigger reach is now perfect.

 

I left my range bag with the G19 in my basement and after about a few weeks I realized the bag was somehow in a puddle. The bag was damp and smells like mildew and the gun was wet. I was initially worried but upon close inspection it had not one trace of rust. I would not want that to happen to any of my Sigs or 1911s.

 

I have 2 HKs right now, a USP Mk23 and a P7. I'm not a big fan of the USP trigger, the DA is extremely heavy and the SA is not that great. The decocker of the USP is also really awkward to use compared to Sigs. I tried out a P30 and I think it does have one of the best grips and the SA pull is on par with a newer 226 but for me I'll shoot it no better than the 226. I do want to get a light LEM trigger version later on since I like the idea of a consistent trigger pull and the ability for a second strike.

 

 

i agree I would crfap if I saw a bag in water that had a sig in it. I don't think it would fair as well. I'd like to believe so, but I wouldn't try it out. I like the Gen 4 G19 the best out of all glocks. I don't know if I percieve the glock as being cheap and therefore I could care less what happens to it or not but I think it's like a tank. I shoot my 226 well but for some reason the 229/ 228's I seem to be shooting well. When I pick up the 226, I shoot better because of the sight radius being longer. Have you tried the m&p's? They have better ergo's than glock and I really like them.

 

How do you like your x6 and x5"s?