Okay as the topic title says I have a question what can you do to help pressure the detective that is doing your paperwork? I applied back in May something like the 3rd week or so. I have been patiently working with the detective to get all of my references out and returned. He mails out each reference I had one get back by the end of June and the other got the form way after since it was "lost" and had to be resent. After a month of being out of the country I got back in August and played alot of phone tag with my reference and the detective. He finally sent out the second reference and he got it back to the PD. So since the 12th of October everything was in and I have been waiting patiently and calling weekly. The last phone call about 2 weeks ago he claimed he was out for a week and would call by the end of this week. Any recomendations on what to do? I have been patient all this time, but I am flat out annoyed with it.

 

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Okay as the topic title says I have a question what can you do to help pressure the detective that is doing your paperwork? I applied back in May something like the 3rd week or so. I have been patiently working with the detective to get all of my references out and returned. He mails out each reference I had one get back by the end of June and the other got the form way after since it was "lost" and had to be resent. After a month of being out of the country I got back in August and played alot of phone tag with my reference and the detective. He finally sent out the second reference and he got it back to the PD. So since the 12th of October everything was in and I have been waiting patiently and calling weekly. The last phone call about 2 weeks ago he claimed he was out for a week and would call by the end of this week. Any recomendations on what to do? I have been patient all this time, but I am flat out annoyed with it.

 

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When did you complete your fingerprinting? And most of all, why did it take your references almost two months to return a reference form.

 

Once all requirements were fullfilled, give it a month or so. Then politely call and ask for update.

When I applied I got printed less than two weeks after I submited the paperwork. The first reference got back very quick. The second reference was going through a divorce so I have no idea what happened with the form he originally got so the detective resent the form to him and when he got it that is when it was sent. My second reference wasn't super reliable on getting back to me so that was why the reference was delayed to get back to the PD. The 12th of october is when all papers were definately at the PD so is there anything I can do? He did say by the end of the week so maybe after end of day (EOD) Saturday if I don't get a phone call should I call him?

When I applied I got printed less than two weeks after I submited the paperwork. The first reference got back very quick. The second reference was going through a divorce so I have no idea what happened with the form he originally got so the detective resent the form to him and when he got it that is when it was sent. My second reference wasn't super reliable on getting back to me so that was why the reference was delayed to get back to the PD. The 12th of october is when all papers were definately at the PD so is there anything I can do? He did say by the end of the week so maybe after end of day (EOD) Saturday if I don't get a phone call should I call him?

 

If everything was in October 12th, I would start calling next week, or Nov 12th. Just a polite... "Hello, just calling to check the status of the firearms id application, it has been a few months since I applied, and a month since you received all of my references and required documentation."

The last time I called that is what I did and what he said to me was I'll call you by the end of this week. So I just have to sit and wait more?

So I didn't get a phone call instead I got a nasty little letter saying I was denied Reason was public health, safety, and welfare..... I am definately taking them to court.

Ouch. Please keep us informed on your progress. Good luck.

So I didn't get a phone call instead I got a nasty little letter saying I was denied Reason was public health, safety, and welfare..... I am definately taking them to court.

 

This doesn't happen in a vacuum. Was there ANYTHING in your past? Do you know your references well?

I was introuble a couple months ago, but it was dismissed in court.

that might be it were you arrested? and wat for?

I was arrested for possesion of HP ammunition. The judge dismissed it.

ok 3 things...

one where were you wen you had this HP ammo

two. why did u have hp ammo without a gun?

howd u get arrested

Reason I was going to go to the range with a friend. He canceled last minute and I left everything in my bag. The next morning I left for school (university) late so I didn't remove the ammo from the bag. I know it was stupid of me I learned my lesson. Someone went through my bag when I wasn't in the room and alerted the campus police and I was arrested shortly after that. Went to court and got the case sorted out.

ok well appeal it and explain this to a judge but remember this is NJ and there is no room for a cloudy head when dealing with firearms here

Get a lawyer.

I do plan on appealing this, but a question of curiosity would this affect me if I move out of state? Lets say Florida will the backround check be a problem or should I get the issue expunged?

umm expunging can take around a year but it wont hurt, u have to see if you can even do that this soon

ok well appeal it and explain this to a judge but remember this is NJ and there is no room for a cloudy head when dealing with firearms here

 

I'd argue that there's no room for that anywhere

but if it was just ammunition and dismissed I don't see why you'd have a problem after an appeal

The lawyer that took my case said that there was no wait period since the university pd dropped the charges and the prosecutor had nothing to go on. So the judge agreed to dismiss the case. This happened in essex county so I think he was telling me the truth I am not a lawyer so I don't know. As far as the FID card I want to appeal it, but I have no idea who is good and affordable. Yes I am a poor college kid

I'd argue that there's no room for that anywhere

but if it was just ammunition and dismissed I don't see why you'd have a problem after an appeal

true

well, if you really want to know.... what everyone wants to know.

 

Possession of Hollow Points is only an issue, if you are also committing a crime at the same time. Pure possession of hollow points is not.

 

So what is missing from this story?

 

And yes, if it came on your NICS check here, it will follow everywhere. is it possible your references did not want you to have a firearm?

I didn't commit a crime, but I guess the campus police interpreted it as possesion is a crime. If it helps they are very anti2A they even tried to stop my range buddy from getting his FID card where he also had to appeal it. Maybe it was a reference I wouldn't know since they mailed out the forms. So the best rout is just appeal it and take it from there right? Can someone point me to a decent priced lawyer that is good?

Who did you use as references?

 

How does your buddy trying to get an FID have to do with anything? Do you live on campus?

No I don't live on campus. He was also denied and he went to the same school. I used my range buddy and an good friend that was a cop. Maybe it was one of them I have no idea if I reapply I am putting down new references.

No I don't live on campus. He was also denied and he went to the same school. I used my range buddy and an good friend that was a cop. Maybe it was one of them I have no idea if I reapply I am putting down new references.

 

Do you ever talk to the people that you used as references?

Yes they are friends of mine that I have known and talk to very frequently for more than 2 years.

Yes they are friends of mine that I have known and talk to very frequently for more than 2 years.

 

Did you ask them if they gave you a good reference? You seem to think that they could have been the reason you were denied. If you have any doubt about their position regarding you owning a firearm why would you write their names down on your app?

One reference read to me what he wrote and it was very for it and the other one took forever to get back so that is why I have the doubt other than that I am confident they were good references.

What did your denial letter say was the reason the local PD concluded it would not be in the best interest of the community for you to have an FID?

 

From what you've written, a judge will not uphold the denial.

What did your denial letter say was the reason the local PD concluded it would not be in the best interest of the community for you to have an FID?

 

From what you've written, a judge will not uphold the denial.

 

 

We are missing something.... not all the facts are here.