Was waiting for someone to mention STI.

You can get a Spartan, gear, ammo for under $1200

My vote is for a Trojan, can't beat the value.

Was waiting for someone to mention STI.

You can get a Spartan, gear, ammo for under $1200

My vote is for a Trojan, can't beat the value.

 

And customer service....The best I've seen.

 

And if you call them before you buy, you can discuss your needs and wants.

 

And they're DAMNED AMERICANS...from AMERICA and the speak ENGLISH.

 

Texans, Like John Wayne(in the movies)

Hey Bob is this new? I can't find it in their products page. I did see the Platinum Elite looks sweet. So many choices.

 

 

Yeah, brand new - so, given Sig's track record, not sure when dealers will actually see this. It is Sig's first venture into the bobbed MSH. It is all stainless with, I believe, their nitron coating.

 

Adios,

 

Pizza Bob

Really?? Do you have any info on this, as I'm curious what kinds of issues people have been having with them. I bought mine right around the time they were first released to market and haven't had a single problem. It has run flawlessly for me.

 

how many rounds?

 

 

 

I was researching smith,sti and so on, so it was beetween the pro sereis or kimber and i purchased the kimber for other benefits.

Here are a few their is too many to list..

 

 

http://forums.1911forum.com/showthread.php?t=336541

 

http://forums.1911forum.com/showthread.php?t=336541

 

http://www.10-8forums.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=95222#Post95222

Was waiting for someone to mention STI.

You can get a Spartan, gear, ammo for under $1200

My vote is for a Trojan, can't beat the value.

 

+1 on the Trojan http://www.dawsonprecision.com/ProductDetail.jsp?LISTID=3070000-1095448549

Okay so far I am looking into the Dan Wesson Valor, The Smith and Wesson Pro, and STI Lawman and Sentry. If the Sig comes out soon would look at that also.Will be putting in PPP on Saturday, so figure I have 4 weeks to read up an hopefully try some of them. Thanks for all the guidance so far, this is a crowded market.

 

Does anyone know a stocking dealer for STI and Dan Wesson? I will shot NJPilots Smith next week.

S&W Pro series .45, thosuands upon thousands of super light dirty lead reloads (SWCs) through it and not one hiccup. Crazy awesome customer service, great shooting, great looking, not too pricey. Whats not to like? This is 25 yards offhand. Not being a great pistol shot im quite proud of it. 10 rounds.

 

 

That is some gosh darn good shooting.

 

Ready Aim Fire has a SW 1911 for rent.

Funny, I just heard something about STI is now doing more of the assembly line stuff and has moved away from fitting each gun. Just had this convo with somebody 5 minutes ago. Since I know very little about STI but have heard nothing but good, I figured I would mention to see what people say.

I will say, with STI... the low end guns are not all american per say, but they use RIA/Armscor frames.

 

At last year's shot show, and then again at this years USPSA nationals, was able to look and play with all the production STI's.... while they are nice, you still have to do things to make them feel good. Sights, and just overall finish. If you get it, definitely look at getting a gunshop to tune the gun.

 

S&W, and Sig 1911's were really nice fit and finish out of the box.

I will say, with STI... the low end guns are not all american per say, but they use RIA/Armscor frames.

 

At last year's shot show, and then again at this years USPSA nationals, was able to look and play with all the production STI's.... while they are nice, you still have to do things to make them feel good. Sights, and just overall finish. If you get it, definitely look at getting a gunshop to tune the gun.

 

S&W, and Sig 1911's were really nice fit and finish out of the box.

 

Stocking dealer for STI in Jersey:

World Class Steel LLC

680 Grove Ave

Edison, NJ 08820

Phone: 732-494-0274

Fax: 732-767-9516

 

Significant difference between the Trojan and Spartan lines. Trojan's in the price range we are speaking of are more refined, better finish and ALL American.

Does anyone know a stocking dealer for STI and Dan Wesson?

 

 

Can't help you with NJ, but Tanners (Jamison, PA) has STI's and Classic Pistol (Southampton, PA) is a DW dealer.

 

As Frank indicated, only the Spartan uses RIA frames & slides - all other STI's are domestic. I believe the new bobbed Sig is available now, since it is the "giveaway gun" for November on Sig's website.

 

Adios,

 

Pizza Bob

Really?? Do you have any info on this, as I'm curious what kinds of issues people have been having with them. I bought mine right around the time they were first released to market and haven't had a single problem. It has run flawlessly for me.

 

how many rounds?

 

 

 

I was researching smith,sti and so on, so it was beetween the pro sereis or kimber and i purchased the kimber for other benefits.

Here are a few their is too many to list..

 

 

http://forums.1911forum.com/showthread.php?t=336541

 

http://forums.1911forum.com/showthread.php?t=336541

 

http://www.10-8forums.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=95222#Post95222

 

Ahh, the extractor pin issue... Yeah, I've read about that before but from what I understood it was something that happened to only a few folks... it wasn't a systemic or widespread issue. I've got at least 1000 rounds through mine, without a single hickup. I've used factory ammo as well as my own reloads with LWSC's and not a single problem. Not a single jam, FTE or FTF... it's been flawless so far.

Funny, I just heard something about STI is now doing more of the assembly line stuff and has moved away from fitting each gun. Just had this convo with somebody 5 minutes ago. Since I know very little about STI but have heard nothing but good, I figured I would mention to see what people say.

 

Bryan, that is a difference between the Trojan and Spartan. The Spartan is assembled and fitted (using STI parts) by Armscor in the Philippines according to STI specs. They are shipped back to Texas and are examined for variances and tweaked when necessary. I can't verify, but I have read that the number is very small (i.e. around 5%) that actually need any work. The Trojan is built in Texas by Texans.

Ask JonF to show you his Spartan. It is really nice. I would buy one. I like the plain jane finish. I wouldn't feel bad about holster wear on the parkerizing.

Jimmy, Next time we head to CJ I will bring my Colt Series 70. It is not a competition gun (not without some mods any ways) but is a sweet shooter.

Really my 45 Spartan shoots way better than I do. But I guess that's not saying much. The finish is parkerized and is what it is.

I like the STI Trojan except for the name. Every time I hear the name the Trojan man condom commercial song starts playing in my head!!!

As a Trojan owner, the one thing I dislike about the gun is the stippling on the front strap.

It just sucks. Totally useless. Gun would be better off with some 30lpi checkering..

Other than that, the gun is great.

Ahh, the extractor pin issue... Yeah, I've read about that before but from what I understood it was something that happened to only a few folks... it wasn't a systemic or widespread issue. I've got at least 1000 rounds through mine, without a single hickup. I've used factory ammo as well as my own reloads with LWSC's and not a single problem. Not a single jam, FTE or FTF... it's been flawless so far.

 

read through that last link their are a few other issues you may want to familiarize your self with..

read through that last link their are a few other issues you may want to familiarize your self with..

 

Thanks. Yeah, I read all of Hilton Yam's suggestions on what should definitely be changed out:

 

MUST DO:

-witness mark and/or Loctite extractor pin

-change recoil, main, FP, and plunger springs to Wolff 18.5 recoil, 23lb main, extra power FP, plunger

-change or modify mag catch to prevent trapping of mags

 

I haven't had any issues with the things he's listed... as mine has worked flawlessly. It's probably good to know these things anyway, just in case I have any issues in the future... so I appreciate the information. In case I ever do have any issues with my E Series in the future, S&W is usally top-notch with their customer service so that gives me soome peace of mind too.

I am not so sure you will have to change any of those parts just inspect them..

 

It is pretty ovious if the springs are too long by their distortion..

 

Cannot go wrong with S&W CS..

why not buy a colt? you can get any of the current ones they make including the gold cup trophy model

 

+1

Lots of great older Gold Cups in this price range, the classic of all classics

Thanks everyone for all the suggestions. After doing hours of research on each model I decided to go with the STI Lawman. I actually liked the Dan Wesson Valor's looks slightly better, but after reading that the STI was employee owned and 100% American made I decided to go that route. The only problem is that there is a 13 week wait for them. Just put in for permits so it won't kill me as I have to wait anyway. I will post a range report and picks after I get it. Again thanks to all for your help.

Congrats Jimmy. Please post some pics when you get it.

Congrats Jimmy. Please post some pics when you get it.

 

Please DO NOT post any pics, or bring it to CJ! I do not need another 1911

Nice, Jimmy, very nice, I'll get an STI one of these days, just not any in the near future.

If you want one today then I suggest calling Dawson Precision. They probably will have some type of Black Friday deal going on also..

 

http://www.dawsonprecision.com/ProductDetail.jsp?LISTID=4CE0001-1115949837

 

Thanks everyone for all the suggestions. After doing hours of research on each model I decided to go with the STI Lawman. I actually liked the Dan Wesson Valor's looks slightly better, but after reading that the STI was employee owned and 100% American made I decided to go that route. The only problem is that there is a 13 week wait for them. Just put in for permits so it won't kill me as I have to wait anyway. I will post a range report and picks after I get it. Again thanks to all for your help.