I still have my updated ccw card from virginia from when i was in the military; my mother lives there so every 5 years i just go visit and update my card im guessing that will work for me?

 

if your home address is still in NJ, then no, you cant carry here and youre still in the same boat as the rest of us. if you 'live' in virginia, and have a va ccw, then you will be able to carry here. i get the feeling if this passes all the way to law, there will be a mass exodus of this communist police state, and suddenly there will be thousands of 'new' PA addresses

i get the feeling if this passes all the way to law, there will be a mass exodus of this communist police state, and suddenly there will be thousands of 'new' PA addresses

 

I would like to think that is what would happen, but in the big scheme of things, if there was even 1/2 of .01% of the NJ state population that did that I think that would be a lot. It's easy for us to say we would, I have, I can, but when it came down to it, my decision would need to have to be based on a lot of other factors than just CCW.

 

I still wonder if the number people in the state increased at a enormous rate over what it is today would have an impact, but after bringing that up before, the feeling was it would probably do only 1 thing, make it a longer process for us the active gun owners to get things done.

IF this bill ever gets out of committee in the Senate, then IF it passes the entire Senate without major emasculation, then IF the Vacationer-in-Chief signs it into law ...... Fat chance. Even if all those stars aligned I'd be willing to bet NJ changes it's draconian laws to become an official No-issue state. End of their problem.

 

Sorry to say, I am in the tiny minority not in favor of the bill becoming law. Why? I have little (zero) trust in the federal government. My tin hat friends and I are convinced passage into law would be the start of a never-ending series of federal restrictive regulations starting with CCW, graduating to handgun registration and eventually prohibition. It happened in the UK and is progressing in Australia. We could be next.

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NYC is not NO issue so you have to assume they are a MAY issue and for that matter, when did NYC become a state, they may have some different rules in the city vs the state but NY is NY and unless they do something like Cook county in IL, it won't matter.

 

 

NYC (and 5 boroughs) has different rules. Even if you have a NY State CCW, you can not carry in NY City.

 

I have a friend who lives is Nassua County (Long Island) who has a NY CCW, but he can not enter the 5 boroughs with a weapon. Which is where all the crime is.

NYC (and 5 boroughs) has different rules. Even if you have a NY State CCW, you can not carry in NY City.

 

I have a friend who lives is Nassua County (Long Island) who has a NY CCW, but he can not enter the 5 boroughs with a weapon. Which is where all the crime is.

 

Wound't this change if HR 822 passes??

NYC is not NO issue so you have to assume they are a MAY issue and for that matter, when did NYC become a state, they may have some different rules in the city vs the state but NY is NY and unless they do something like Cook county in IL, it won't matter.

 

Surprisingly wrong about NYC! I know many jewelers/diamond dealers who have their NYC carry permits.

Surprisingly wrong about NYC! I know many jewelers/diamond dealers who have their NYC carry permits.

 

Didn't I say that they are a MAY issue??

NYC (and 5 boroughs) has different rules. Even if you have a NY State CCW, you can not carry in NY City.

 

 

THIS, is why i asked. I dunno what they hell they do in NY vs NYC but i know the restrictions are greater in the city vs upstate.

THIS, is why i asked. I dunno what they hell they do in NY vs NYC but i know the restrictions are greater in the city vs upstate.

 

True, but the thread we are in if it passes the next 2 phases, we should be able to carry there, unless they go NO issue,

NYC is the lifeblood of that state if not a major powerhouse in the country. The mayor has bigger budgets to control that some countries I bet. You'd be surprised how much power that municipal government holds.

NYC is the lifeblood of that state if not a major powerhouse in the country. The mayor has bigger budgets to control that some countries I bet. You'd be surprised how much power that municipal government holds.

 

Ok, how does that impact HR 822??

Ok, how does that impact HR 822??

 

With the amount of power NYC holds,I can see it maybe be legal to recieve a permit, but they may severely restrict the amount of permits handed out by legislation or loopholes. Couldn't tell you how. Im not a lawyer. But I can guarantee it will happen.

With the amount of power NYC holds,I can see it maybe be legal to recieve a permit, but they may severely restrict the amount of permits handed out by legislation or loopholes. Couldn't tell you how. Im not a lawyer. But I can guarantee it will happen.

 

Yeah but you won't need to receive a permit from NYC to be able to carry there. It will be like here in NJ with the "may permit" option. NYC peeps won't be able to carry in their own city but they will be able to in PA or hell, even NJ with a FL or Utah permit

With the amount of power NYC holds,I can see it maybe be legal to recieve a permit, but they may severely restrict the amount of permits handed out by legislation or loopholes. Couldn't tell you how. Im not a lawyer. But I can guarantee it will happen.

 

Wouldn't matter, as screwy as it is, how it would work is we as NJ residents couldn't carry in NJ with out out of state CCW, but would be able to in NYC.

You still have to follow that states/cities CC laws, so you could see something like NYC making crazy restriction on where it is legal to carry within the city. I think that was checker's point but I could be off base.

You still have to follow that states/cities CC laws, so you could see something like NYC making crazy restriction on where it is legal to carry within the city. I think that was checker's point but I could be off base.

 

USCCA has a nice app for smart phones, you can enter all your permits, answer home or resident for each and display a map of where you are good and IIRC some of the restrictions. Also there is info on all the laws for each of the states also, can't remember if it is that sight or another but web apps for your smart phone can keep you up to date when you travel.

You still have to follow that states/cities CC laws, so you could see something like NYC making crazy restriction on where it is legal to carry within the city. I think that was checker's point but I could be off base.

 

More or less haha. I was just saying basically NYC is powerful enough that some way, some how, they will get around having a full scale carry law. Whether its incredibly difficult to procure or insanely overpriced. I think just to have a FID its over $300 now.

 

But like I said, I'm no lawyer, so what do I know.