build or buy only depends on whether or not your willing to spend the initial cash on the tools, which u end up buying anyway.

 

Every Man should have all the tools necessary, well that is as long as they still have their Man Card...

Eh - it's ok but it will need work to be made NJ Legal. You'll have to buy a muzzle brake and get it welded on. For that price, you might as well get a Palmetto State Armory Lower build kit and the upper of your choice.

 

Thanks, Looks like it comes with a muzzle brake but would def need to have it and the stock pinned.

 

Would really like to build an 5.45 AR but damn the uppers are expensive

That's not a muzzle brake - that's a standard A2 flashhider.

That's not a muzzle brake - that's a standard A2 flashhider.

 

And my ignorance once again rears its ugly head... Thanks for the info.

You can have a 14.5" barrel provided it has a pin/welded muzzle brake of 1.5" or more welded on. They typically are a little more than 1.5" specifically for making 14.5" barrels legal both for NFA and state purposes.

 

Muzzle brakes need to be 2.1"+ to make a 14.5" barrel 16"+ (you have to remember that they thread onto the barrel approx .5")

 

 

 

Sorry for the slight OT, but what do you guys think of the complete build kit ( - stripped lower reciever of course) that classicarms sells?

 

Its listed here

http://www.classicfi...to%20rifles.htm

 

Meh.... its just a delton kit, you can go to thier website and build what you want http://www.del-ton.c...15_kits_s/1.htm

But personally I would buy a kit from Palmetto instead http://palmettostate...-rifle-kits.php

or one of thier build kits and any other upper http://palmettostate...-build-kits.php

I'm pretty sure PSA will pin a brake and remove the lug if you request it. They told me they would do it for me about 6 months ago (went with a BCM upper instead and sent it to Paul at Arms and Ammo to pin brake and remove lug).

 

Right now the PSA kits are the best for the money IMHO.

1. Thanks for the JSE Surplus lead - addictive reading!

 

2. Just went through this build vs. buy decision. I was on the fence until I found an excellent deal on a slightly used rifle that fit my requirements exactly. I bought it, figured I will learn from it and the, eventually, do a build of my own.

 

I know is is an easy build after the first time or seeing someone else do it. The uncertainty of doing it right the first time is daunting when building a firearm.

Though lots have already said, since the question was asked, I'll add to the consensus.

 

Build the lower yourself, and buy a complete upper.

 

1. It is easy. As said, all you need are some punches, a hammer/mallet, and depending on your stock, a stock wrench.

2. I find it interesting and enjoy it, so it isn't like it is a hassle.

3. It allows you to be familiar with all the parts and pieces, and gives you a good understand of how it functions. So if you have some sort of issue, or something breaks (or you break something!) you know what it is, where it goes, and how to fix it.

4. You can chose exactly what stock, grip, lower, trigger, etc, that you want.

Hey Bones

 

You following me around all the forums or am I following you?