I guess with the new year comes new prices.

 

Seems like everything went up about 7%. A case of 9mm is up about $20 over last year. Looks like precision delta has them beat now... I just don't feel like working up a new load though. lol

Yep, noticed it too. Loads should be the same, PD and MG. I have been using PD for 40 cal for the past 3k rounds, and all are extremely accurate, no issues.

Yep, noticed it too. Loads should be the same, PD and MG. I have been using PD for 40 cal for the past 3k rounds, and all are extremely accurate, no issues.

Agreed! Though the guilding metal appears to be different, I would expect the coefficient of friction of the guilding metal to be so close that you wouldn't need to work up a new load for the same weight and style of bullet. You should notice no difference. Though I would check your case head for signs of pressure on the first few rounds. As we say..."You can't see it from my house..."

The 45ACP bullet has slightly differnt profiles. I needed to change my seating die setting when switching between the two.

Has anyone used Berry's? Powder Valley sells them for $68/1000 + S&H. I just ordered a case yesterday, I haven't tried any plated bullets yet so I don't know what to expect.

 

Edit: Just realized that PD and MG are actually jacketed, not plated. That's a really good price for jacketed then, I may have to look into that instead.

Berrys are fine if you don't run them fast or use too heavy a crimp (you can pierce the plating and kill your accuracy. I would be OK with using them for 45acp.

Oh, ok. I'm fairly ignorant of all of the "back woods" bullet manufacturers and suppliers and have been loading Hornady FMJ 9mm while learning, so I'm trying to learn about who exists and which are good shooters and a good value so I can start saving some more money (read: shoot more). It sounds like you guys like PD and MG, so I'll have to look into those as a new source.

My last purchase was from DP they has .45's in stock so i purchased 124fmj 9's and 230fmj .45's at the time they also had better pricing think it ws oct..

For bulk pistol bullets jacketed there are the following AFAIK

 

precision-delta (buy form tehir web site)

montana gold (buy form their web site, or if you want the bulk buy discount at a lower number, there are other options)

zero (don't buy direct, they don't want to deal with small purchases, so if you want them I recommend buying through cz custom, or shooters connection)

 

For plated, there's rainier (soft, use lead data), berrys (harder, can usually use jacketed data), and west coast/x-treme (might be even harder than berrys, I use jacketed data).

 

I don't know who sells rainiers cheaply (probably the best you can do is cabelas if you get a $15 off $150 coupon, and a free shipping promotion), although I loved them in my .45 when bullets were cheap enough I didn't care much.

For berrys, powder valley has decent prices.

For x-treme (formerly west coast), you can order direct if your order is big enough, and they are what I believe thebulletworks.net sells ont heir site (if it's not them, they are still nice plated bullets).

 

 

For coated, there's precision bullets, which are accurate, but delicate for the coating and SOFT lead wire. There's also bayou bullets, which smell like burning tires when you shoot them, but the coating is tougher and the lead a bit harder. They are a PITA to get to not smoke a lot, and a PITA to get moving past the 100fps mark without issues. For minor .40 you cna make the 170s shoot really nice though.

For bulk pistol bullets jacketed there are the following AFAIK

 

precision-delta (buy form tehir web site)

montana gold (buy form their web site, or if you want the bulk buy discount at a lower number, there are other options)

zero (don't buy direct, they don't want to deal with small purchases, so if you want them I recommend buying through cz custom, or shooters connection)

 

For plated, there's rainier (soft, use lead data), berrys (harder, can usually use jacketed data), and west coast/x-treme (might be even harder than berrys, I use jacketed data).

 

I don't know who sells rainiers cheaply (probably the best you can do is cabelas if you get a $15 off $150 coupon, and a free shipping promotion), although I loved them in my .45 when bullets were cheap enough I didn't care much.

For berrys, powder valley has decent prices.

For x-treme (formerly west coast), you can order direct if your order is big enough, and they are what I believe thebulletworks.net sells ont heir site (if it's not them, they are still nice plated bullets).

 

 

For coated, there's precision bullets, which are accurate, but delicate for the coating and SOFT lead wire. There's also bayou bullets, which smell like burning tires when you shoot them, but the coating is tougher and the lead a bit harder. They are a PITA to get to not smoke a lot, and a PITA to get moving past the 100fps mark without issues. For minor .40 you cna make the 170s shoot really nice though.

 

I will add Goldenwestbrass not bad price for fmj. makes decent practice ammo

Damn, I have needed 9mm for a while. Wish I would have bought it last year

Bryan, will see what kind of deals can line up at shot show. I know extreme plated bullets were there, and Barrys.... but I would love to try extreme... i think I got some samples from last year.

Bry, if we can't scare up any deals @ SHOT I will post up a GP so everyone can get the 3-case(maybe even the 8 case) price after we get back. I need to order at least 3 cases as it is.

Bry, if we can't scare up any deals @ SHOT I will post up a GP so everyone can get the 3-case(maybe even the 8 case) price after we get back. I need to order at least 3 cases as it is.

 

Awesome. I could use at least a case of 9mm, maybe 45 also.

Bryan, will see what kind of deals can line up at shot show. I know extreme plated bullets were there, and Barrys.... but I would love to try extreme... i think I got some samples from last year.

 

Thats all i use is extreme plated you can load them to FMJ loads

Bry, if we can't scare up any deals @ SHOT I will post up a GP so everyone can get the 3-case(maybe even the 8 case) price after we get back. I need to order at least 3 cases as it is.

 

Cool, MG or DP is good for me, so I'd be in for some for 9, 40, and 45, just got a Smokin deal on over 2K of new +p .45 brass yesterday..

Well, PD has raised their prices also. I just looked at 124-9mm went from $79/k to $86/k.

Frank we all can talk tomorrow at the RO class and see if we might want to start a group buy, I know I'm ready to order.

Harry, sent you a pm.

Got it. Need to figure a few things out. Get back to you tomorrow.