Gun For Hire Radio will be at the rally and unless I get incarcerated we will be doing a show from the rally! I have been pitching this all over and hoping we get a great turnout. Unity and activism is the key.

Happy to see them finally reach out but nothing we didnt already know except that they are in top secret negotiations I can understand the stealth aspect for now, lets hope their brainstorming is a success. GO ANJRPC!!!

As a board member of NJ2AS and ANJRPC and being on the Education and Training Committee of the NRA Board, I can tell you I have almost seen it all. This coupled with the fact that I own GFH and record GFH radio and have the distinct moniker of not having a filter from my brain to my mouth it puts me in a very precarious position.

 

I am also a life member and advisor for SAF and JPFO. I have seen the inner workings of all of these 2A groups they all have their strengths and weaknesses. I am NOT writing this to defend ANJRPC (WOJO can attest to that) I always fall back to the first time I met Frank F from NJ2AS and he described having two 2A groups in NJ as the hammer and anvil. I picture ANJRPS as the large slow moving anvil and the NJ2AS as the small pinpoint hammer, both pissing the antis off!.

 

Join them all, there is NO such thing as a perfect life, marriage, job, and 2A group.

 

That's my story and I am sticking to it.

 

If you have listened to my show you know I am NOT PC correct and I have a potty mouth! The fact that all theses groups tolerate me amazes me! LOL.

 

I did not write this to start a pissing contest with any forum members, we need to stick together now more then ever or we can wait for the hunters to help us. Good Luck.

 

Ant

Amen brother. See you there.

 

I'll be dressing up like a HUGE penis...and will run madly at any politician or media type I see with my one good eye.

Anthony, it's always refreshing when I listen to your podcasts. It gives me hope that ANJRPC isn't locked in cement.

As a board member of NJ2AS and ANJRPC and being on the Education and Training Committee of the NRA Board, I can tell you I have almost seen it all. This coupled with the fact that I own GFH and record GFH radio and have the distinct moniker of not having a filter from my brain to my mouth it puts me in a very precarious position.

 

I am also a life member and advisor for SAF and JPFO. I have seen the inner workings of all of these 2A groups they all have their strengths and weaknesses. I am NOT writing this to defend ANJRPC (WOJO can attest to that) I always fall back to the first time I met Frank F from NJ2AS and he described having two 2A groups in NJ as the hammer and anvil. I picture ANJRPS as the large slow moving anvil and the NJ2AS as the small pinpoint hammer, both pissing the antis off!.

 

Join them all, there is NO such thing as a perfect life, marriage, job, and 2A group.

 

That's my story and I am sticking to it.

 

If you have listened to my show you know I am NOT PC correct and I have a potty mouth! The fact that all theses groups tolerate me amazes me! LOL.

 

I did not write this to start a pissing contest with any forum members, we need to stick together now more then ever or we can wait for the hunters to help us. Good Luck.

 

Ant

 

Ant, many people here know of you and many of us personally, and I would say it a more colorful way to you in person as you know, but keep up the great work dude and as always, don't ever change man, never.

 

 

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CR could also do this http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/article/20130116/NEWS02/301160028/Firing-range-prohibits-Burlington-police-over-city-consideration-gun-ban?nclick_check=1

 

Just saying

Truly a great suggestion and example what more groups need to do.

 

But they lack balls, a spine and the American spirit to something that honorable. I'd love to see ammo suppliers and gun manufactures have the balls like Barrett has when he did and continues to refuse to sell his products to Commie-fornia.

 

Do you really think they would be showing up to Trenton or send out that email if I and maybe some other members didn't embarass them into doing it? IF as a group of members DEMAND they shut down the range to LEO's, they might get the message.

 

Why should ANJRPC be coddling with the potential enemy?

 

Thanks Oneshot...I got some planning to do.

I'm all for it! Let me know if i can help. The Fed has been gearing up for 4 years ,training special forces and DHS for civil war.that's a fact

LEOs are blue-collar grunts like the rest of us. Policy is not their fault: if our politicians and policy-makers don't reflect our views, that is our fault, not the folks who punch the clock like the rest of us.

 

LEOs are also some of the most earnest supporters of 2A. They know, as a practical matter, it takes time to call 911 and for them arrive on-scene. They also know every time civilians get a little more disarmed, retired LEOs get caught-up too.

 

LEOs have to do their qualifications: I certainly feel better knowing the guy in uniform and packing heat has practiced recently. The ammunition shortage is already hitting them pretty hard already. We don't need to be adding to their troubles.

At this point in my life i really have no trust for any Government agency. I"ve never been arrested obviously since i own guns.

They punch a clock and they also take you into custody for defending your life in your home.Sorry im not buying it. Granted some are supporters, i would venture to guess the majority are not.

They could also as a community stand up for the citizens as some have in the west where they remember what this country was founded on .

I believe in the constitution ,cut and dry. If you take an oath to defend it then thats what you do.

 

I would bet i shoot more than most LE. They qual what once a year?

Pressure has to come from somewhere.

 

If the chief has to ask for more money to train out of county, it will affect the budget. Not to mention the sheer inconvenience of it for everyone. All of it leads to griping and pressure. This is called soft power and it works.

 

As for LEOs being pro gun...I think it's not even 50/50. Most cops I know(my brother is a LEO) are split into two groups. One that likes to shoot, others that wouldn't carry a gun if it weren't required and couldn't give a damn about them.

LEOs are blue-collar grunts like the rest of us. Policy is not their fault: if our politicians and policy-makers don't reflect our views, that is our fault, not the folks who punch the clock like the rest of us.

Who do you think does the heavy lifting for the politicians?

 

LEOs are also some of the most earnest supporters of 2A. They know, as a practical matter, it takes time to call 911 and for them arrive on-scene. They also know every time civilians get a little more disarmed, retired LEOs get caught-up too.

LOL, where in Oregon or Kentucky.....maybe in those states.

 

LEOs have to do their qualifications: I certainly feel better knowing the guy in uniform and packing heat has practiced recently. The ammunition shortage is already hitting them pretty hard already. We don't need to be adding to their troubles.

Twice a year=practiced recently? The average forum member "practices" more then your average cop.

Twice a year=practiced recently?The average forum member "practices" more then your average cop.

 

Really? That's pretty scary.

 

My feeling is, when the whole world is against us, we need more allies less enemies. This isn't some flash-in-the-pan over in a few news cycles. Sooner or later, some anti is gonna get frustrated change isn't happening fast enough, and do something stupid. Let them tire themselves out.

Exactly...soft power. Reduced range time, more money, over time, travel expenses, over night stays at hotels, meals, hookers and blow, etc. Those are pressures that make business managers, mayors and chiefs crazy.

 

By LAW, they need to do requals twice a year and most do a piss poor job at that. Requal does not mean training...requals just show you are proficient. Training time should be a lot more then requal time.

 

Soooooo, reduce the range availability and we start a legal nightmare if a LEO has to use their weapon. Defense attorneys will have a field day. Add in more money and aggravation and the voices get louder. The EPA won't let them just throw up a range.

 

FWIW - Feds qual 4 times a year and have their own ranges.

LEOs are blue-collar grunts like the rest of us. Policy is not their fault: if our politicians and policy-makers don't reflect our views, that is our fault, not the folks who punch the clock like the rest of us.

 

LEOs are also some of the most earnest supporters of 2A. They know, as a practical matter, it takes time to call 911 and for them arrive on-scene. They also know every time civilians get a little more disarmed, retired LEOs get caught-up too.

 

LEOs have to do their qualifications: I certainly feel better knowing the guy in uniform and packing heat has practiced recently. The ammunition shortage is already hitting them pretty hard already. We don't need to be adding to their troubles.

 

you would be surprised how many leo in nj are against guns. There's tons that it gets in their head that nobody else is safe with a gun. And yea they qualify 2 times a year. you dont know how many fail and have to retake it. or just pass it, you can miss 12 out of 60. and there's only 12 shots taken from the 25 yard line everything else is closer. so if you make 1 or 2 from 25 your good the rest is smooth sailing. it moves to the 15 after that and gets closer. Alot of leo's do not practice besides their 2 qualifications a year that they pass by 1 shot or 2 shots. Then there are the die hard who love shooting and make 60 of 60 every qualification and practice a few times a week can nail the q on the target from the 50 yard line.

Don't forget, most agencies for 'night time' or 'low-vis' quals only put on sunglasses to simulate a reduced lighting situation. I can tell you that running a course in the dark using your weapon mounted light is much more difficult then putting on some shades on in a well lit facility or outside even on a cloudy day. And when do most shootings occur?... at night, not wearing sunglasses at very close range and in awkward firing positions under stress.

 

Wonder why NYPD needs 91 shots to stop someone opening his front door or why 9 civilians were shot at the Empire State Building? Piss poor training, BS training programs, compromised stress fire drills and on and on and on.

This has gotten way of track and I'm afraid It's my post on Burlington that started it.. My point is that i do not want to support any agency where only a few

support me and my rights granted under the constitution. Let them build their own range or charge for the use.. personally i dont care what they do,just don't inconvenience me

with range closings and dont use my membership fee to cater to anyone for free!! Not sure how or why any agency or club became more deserving than paying members..

The God syndrome i suspect. Kind of like the board at CR they seem to have the God syndrome.

Don't forget, most agencies for 'night time' or 'low-vis' quals only put on sunglasses to simulate a reduced lighting situation. I can tell you that running a course in the dark using your weapon mounted light is much more difficult then putting on some shades on in a well lit facility or outside even on a cloudy day. And when do most shootings occur?... at night, not wearing sunglasses at very close range and in awkward firing positions under stress.

 

Wonder why NYPD needs 91 shots to stop someone opening his front door or why 9 civilians were shot at the Empire State Building? Piss poor training, BS training programs, compromised stress fire drills and on and on and on.

 

yea some departments also dont care about night and just pull your light out act as your doing it. but let me tell you what without a weapon mounted light it takes some practice to get used to it especially the new grips they teach.

Anyone go today? How crowded was it? Thinking of going tomorrow, will be cold so I don't think to many people.

I'm going tomorrow morning. Today the 100 yd rifle range was closed for the Weapons of Winter Wars contest. Tomorrow I will be at the 100 to test out some new handloads.

 

Anyone go today? How crowded was it? Thinking of going tomorrow, will be cold so I don't think to many people.

.50 Cal Saturday February 2, after 1pm at 300 yard line ammo must be checked prior to firing.

 

Membership Sunday February 3, please arrive before 9am, space is limited, you my be turned away at the gate if the clubhouse fills to capacity,orientation begins promptly at 9:30

gun...check....ammo....yup.check....silly.ball never hurt nuthin there.,that a good clean up of tree debris wouldnt have fixed .blame the ammo,yup.another reason cr suks.

gun...check....ammo....yup.check....silly.ball never hurt nuthin there.,that a good clean up of tree debris wouldnt have fixed .blame the ammo,yup.another reason cr suks.

 

Can u explain better what happened?

 

 

Can u explain better what happened?

 

I thought it was just me that guessed that was written in code.

Haha- sounds like he was just mumbling out loud! Something pissed him off....

The reason we're told that we can't shoot 50BMG projectiles that have any steel in them at all is that apparently they will start a fire in the trees and rocks behind the targets. So, they have to test your projectiles with a magnet before you can shoot.

and 30 cal m80 ball or other copper washed steel jacket lead core projos dont.only 50 cal ones do.why dont they clean up the trees/ rocks/debris from trees?back to mumbling to myself.

and 30 cal m80 ball or other copper washed steel jacket lead core projos dont.only 50 cal ones do.why dont they clean up the trees/ rocks/debris from trees?back to mumbling to myself.

 

No to defend them, but have you compared specs between a 308 win and a 50 BMG? First off, a typical 308 win is 168gr, a typical 50 BMG is 690gr. At 200yds, the 308 has muzzle energy of around 1800 ft lbs, the 50 BMG has 13,000 ft lbs, or rough 7x the energy. So yes, a 50 BMG is more likely to cause sparking as metal (a lot more of it) hits rock (a heck of a lot harder). I couldn't find specs at 300yds, but I suspect the 50 BMG has more than 7x the energy at that range.

 

As for the debris, I think they probably want to keep erosion in check, and trees is how you do that.

 

My gripe is not that I have to use non-steel ammo in my 50BMG, but that they restrict the hours so tightly.

+1

 

I use the Hornady a-max loads. Why wouldn't you? You popped multiple $large for the weapon, why would you use military ammo designed to be used in a machine gun for suppressing or cover fire. I get the cost thing, but that's like complaining about a Ferrari needing premium gas.

 

The beef is with the days/hours limitations. And there are some there, and not all fudds BTW, that would rather they banned them. I've let several that take a shot and try to convert them. Some still packed up and left. Just like black guns make liberals get the squirts, my ar-50 is a big scary, loud gun and some dues paying members complain.

 

But I am thankful to the Gods of Cordite for the few hours twice a week that are offered for some quality alone time with her.

 

So complaining I'm not.