Yes, I did already post this, but I feel as though this is something we must all see, and honestly, I don't think I had a catchy-enough title to get people to view it. It's scary, since this is what's been happening to us lately. We've had a few successes, but now is not the time to get lazy. Watch this video, and share it.

 

serious stuff..

By the way, culled from the NRA facebook page, Holder apparently stated that Obama wants to ban guns.

 

http://dailycaller.com/2012/02/08/holder-tells-congress-the-obama-administration-wants-to-ban-guns/

I really dont think we will ever see our firearms banned or confiscated in our lifetimes. I dont think we are even close to that point.

It really is scary. The problem is, it does have a chance of happening. The apathy and disconnection between gun owners is high. It doesn't matter if gun ownership is on the rise here. All it takes is one despot in the POTUS seat to start and finish the process, and it would happen if no one steps up to say anything.

Well we better step up when needed then.

I see a watered down version of the SOPA internet revolt if they were to try this. There's obviously more people invested in the censorship of the internet then the protection of personal gun ownership. Regardless one thing I have learned since hopping into the gun ownership arena, is that the growing number of people we do have supporting are cause, are a VERY vocal group. (the squeaky wheel will continue to get the grease)

I really dont think we will ever see our firearms banned or confiscated in our lifetimes. I dont think we are even close to that point.

We in NJ have already seen guns banned in our lifetime. We in NJ already have a list of banned firearms...

I really dont think we will ever see our firearms banned or confiscated in our lifetimes. I dont think we are even close to that point.

 

Other societies have said that before, didn't turn out too well for many of them....

I really dont think we will ever see our firearms banned or confiscated in our lifetimes. I dont think we are even close to that point.

We in NJ have already seen guns banned in our lifetime. We in NJ already have a list of banned firearms...

Other societies have said that before, didn't turn out too well for many of them....

 

NJ is going after the ammo. You can have all the guns you want, but without ammo, well.

 

A friend emailed me the following. If it is inaccurate please provide source for contradiction. Snopes doesn't count (Soros funded company). I think the JO that was running Chrysler is part of the "Freedom Group" also. We are (1) liberal supreme court justice away from the end of the 2nd amendment.

 

 

 

I assume this is True IF so you better stock up NOW !!!!

 

 

Subject: Guess Who's Buying Gun Companies?

 

 

SOMETHING YOU MAY NOT KNOW THAT IS HAPPENING

 

 

 

Who is buying companies manufacturing guns ?????

 

 

 

For the last several years a company called The Freedom Group has been buying up gun and ammunition manufacturers. Some of the companies are Bushmaster, Marlin, Remington, DPMS, Dakota Arms and H&R. Some people worry that this Freedom Group is going to control most of the firearms companies in the United States . If you control the manufacturers you can decide to stop selling to civilians. What a perfect way to control guns.

 

 

 

Now if you do some digging you will see that The Freedom Group is owned by a company called Cerberus Capital Management.

 

 

 

Guess who controls Cerberus??? GEORGE SOROS !!!!!!!!! One of the

 

most evil men on this planet who wants to restrict or ban all civilian guns. Please pass this on to all your freedom loving friends. This needs to come out. Why have we not heard about this in the "mainstream" media? I would think this would be BIG news. (Soros also owns Progressive Insurance)

 

 

 

If you don't know who George Soros is, you need to do some

 

research. He backed Obama with millions of dollars and

 

Obama is a puppet on a string controlled by Soros .

 

 

 

Send this to every gun owner in America . [/indent] [/indent] [/indent]

Pretty sure that that has been proven false in the past.

 

Also, do you really think some guy is going to buy a whole industry he is actively trying to kill? Even ESPECIALLY in politics, greed trumps all.

Pretty sure that that has been proven false in the past.

 

Also, do you really think some guy is going to buy a whole industry he is actively trying to kill? Even ESPECIALLY in politics, greed trumps all.

 

Depends on how motivated someone is for a cause. He's pretty old, I mean, he may be trying to set the stage for whatever he wants in the future before he dies. If I'm not mistaken, it's a pretty common practice among businesses to buy out competitors. Not to mention that it's not like they aren't making money from these companies. You buy them up, let them make you a little cash, buy another one, wash, rinse, repeat.

 

Not saying it's true mind you, but it is a clever tactic to use. Although, I suppose that wouldn't be able to fully stop firearms manufacture, unless you go after every single gunsmith, and buy them up too. Simply cutting off the supply in that manner doesn't eliminate the ability for a person to own. In that regard, either back-door, or typical gun control is the most effective method of denying people their rights, not buying up all the manufacturers.

 

Though, that would drive prices up.

 

We are (1) liberal supreme court justice away from the end of the 2nd amendment.

 

 

 

 

Yep

I really dont think we will ever see our firearms banned or confiscated in our lifetimes. I dont think we are even close to that point.

 

Please don't let that opinion stop you from writhig/calling your politicians and standing up for your rights.

It's easy to say "I don't think....." if you sit back and wait you will see more rights chipped away.

 

We already have it in NJ. We also have one of the biggest anti gunners still in our governmet.

 

The gun banners are taking our rights the way one would cut down a tree with an axe; one small chip at a time. Specific firearms, a small chip. Magazine capacity, a small chip. Caliber bans, a small chip (CA). Restrictions on configurations, another small chip (pistol grip on a semi shotgun). Banning firearms of specific colors (NY). These are just a few examples. Just listen and read, these politicans are still swinging their axes.

There are people of a specific attitude: "I only shoot trap and the over under is the last thing they will go after, so I'm not worried.". These people piss me off.

Please don't let that opinion stop you from writhig/calling your politicians and standing up for your rights.

It's easy to say "I don't think....." if you sit back and wait you will see more rights chipped away.

 

We already have it in NJ. We also have one of the biggest anti gunners still in our governmet.

 

The gun banners are taking our rights the way one would cut down a tree with an axe; one small chip at a time. Specific firearms, a small chip. Magazine capacity, a small chip. Caliber bans, a small chip (CA). Restrictions on configurations, another small chip (pistol grip on a semi shotgun). Banning firearms of specific colors (NY). These are just a few examples. Just listen and read, these politicans are still swinging their axes.

There are people of a specific attitude: "I only shoot trap and the over under is the last thing they will go after, so I'm not worried.". These people piss me off.

 

Hold the phone, NY has actually done that?! Wtf!

Hold the phone, NY has actually done that?! Wtf!

 

I think it's garish colors, like pink and stuff like that. Could be wrong though.

seen this a million times, but the wifed watched it for the first time

 

She had no idea

terrible

 

this is why you can't give an inch of liberty up for debate

Pretty sure that that has been proven false in the past.

 

Also, do you really think some guy is going to buy a whole industry he is actively trying to kill? Even ESPECIALLY in politics, greed trumps all.

 

Qel, your right, sorry I didn't verify source. I have no intention of being a gossip monger, this NJgunforum post just happened to coincide with the email I received, and I just thought it was pertinent. ( it was late, I was lazy, and I was pretty sure someone would call me on this if it was bad info)

 

Apparently the NRA has researched Soros involvement with Freedom Group and Cerebus and determined that he has no controlling interest in either of those companies.

 

But I do wonder if Soros is a stockholder. I would love to know that, and would be consistent with your comment "greed trumps all". I bet he, and the POS's that preach antigun rhetoric have large stockholdings in gun and ammo manufacturers.

 

Obama, and the liberal anti 2nd amendment supreme court justices, have actually been great for the gun and ammo industry. From what I hear from my friends and just passing conversations at the gun shop, people are buying weapons and ammo in record numbers precisely because of Obama. Think about it, when the government (or anyone else) says you can't do something, what is the typical American reaction? My 75 year old mother is even buying a piece, haha.

Qel, your right, sorry I didn't verify source. I have no intention of being a gossip monger, this NJgunforum post just happened to coincide with the email I received, and I just thought it was pertinent. ( it was late, I was lazy, and I was pretty sure someone would call me on this if it was bad info)

 

Apparently the NRA has researched Soros involvement with Freedom Group and Cerebus and determined that he has no controlling interest in either of those companies.

 

But I do wonder if Soros is a stockholder. I would love to know that, and would be consistent with your comment "greed trumps all". I bet he, and the POS's that preach antigun rhetoric have large stockholdings in gun and ammo manufacturers.

 

Obama, and the liberal anti 2nd amendment supreme court justices, have actually been great for the gun and ammo industry. From what I hear from my friends and just passing conversations at the gun shop, people are buying weapons and ammo in record numbers precisely because of Obama. Think about it, when the government (or anyone else) says you can't do something, what is the typical American reaction? My 75 year old mother is even buying a piece, haha.

 

Look at the price of 5.56/.223 ammo. A few years ago, it was pretty cheap, about $2-4 per box of 20, IIRC. Now it's around $7-9 per box. Demand has skyrocketed. I believe I read an article, some guy who helps run SHOT show said something like firearms sales have shot up 500%. And personally, I'm NOT one to believe the anti-gun people who claim, "more guns are owned by fewer people". Sure, some people may own more firearms, but I think that there are a lot more people now who are getting into firearms for the first time.

 

For example, out of myself, and four of my friends(Gio, Barrett, Rosati,Midget, and myself), only one of them has been raised around firearms (Rosati).

 

Barrett- He has a serious interest in applying for an FID when he has the money to do so, and has been pestering me to bring him to a range for a while.

Rosati- Is currently applying for his FID, he needs to get his fingerprinting done.

Gio- Started taking up shooting, and I BELIEVE he's applying for a PP, and FID when he moves out.

Midget- Taught her to shoot a .22, she thinks she wants to own a gun when she's older

Me- Come from a fairly anti-gun family (support the right, don't want them around though). Yet I'm a very enthusiastic firearms owner, and 2A rights supporter. I think that my friends and I are actually examples of the dynamic shift in opinion in America. People are starting to LIKE guns again, and they're not listening to the anti-gun rhetoric as much. Best of all, I know more young people who are interested in exercising their 2A rights. Of course, the biggest hurdle is that they don't know where to start. The FID process is confusing, and not easily done for them. I mean, my town had the forms right on their police website, while trying to help my friend find his town's forms, I couldn't find them after an hour of searching online. But what's most important is that there is an interested, and willing supporters of shooting rights, we just need to reach out to them.

No matter what, we can never get lazy in our standing up for our rights no matter what. There will always be people who want to take them away. While I do doubt it will ever come to that, it isn't really out of the question. Remember how many other time through history this and similar things have happened. Think of what happened after, you would think someone who can think for them selves would have learned after the first time. Well you know how that went. Also don't forget every dominant power through history has crumbled over time, so with that in mind, it's time for us to learn, remember, and try and prevent history from repeating itself.

No matter what, we can never get lazy in our standing up for our rights no matter what. There will always be people who want to take them away. While I do doubt it will ever come to that, it isn't really out of the question. Remember how many other time through history this and similar things have happened. Think of what happened after, you would think someone who can think for them selves would have learned after the first time. Well you know how that went. Also don't forget every dominant power through history has crumbled over time, so with that in mind, it's time for us to learn, remember, and try and prevent history from repeating itself.

 

The problem is, the history being taught is skewed, and many believe the lies they are fed, and accept them to not only be fact, but to be history as well. We never once talked about the Soviet Union, Gulags, or Chinese human rights violations. We never discussed Democrat opposition to civil rights, or support of slavery, or the Republicans shutting down the KKK during the 1800s.

The problem is, the history being taught is skewed, and many believe the lies they are fed, and accept them to not only be fact, but to be history as well. We never once talked about the Soviet Union, Gulags, or Chinese human rights violations. We never discussed Democrat opposition to civil rights, or support of slavery, or the Republicans shutting down the KKK during the 1800s.

 

True, they are not taught real history. What was nice is my daughters class just had a project to to a report on their favorite Amendment. More than 80% of the class did it on the 2nd Amendment. Nice, very nice..

True, they are not taught real history. What was nice is my daughters class just had a project to to a report on their favorite Amendment. More than 80% of the class did it on the 2nd Amendment. Nice, very nice..

 

My school never even taught the constitution. Most kids knew the first amendment, but other than that, they couldn't name any of them.

True, they are not taught real history. What was nice is my daughters class just had a project to to a report on their favorite Amendment. More than 80% of the class did it on the 2nd Amendment. Nice, very nice..

My school never even taught the constitution. Most kids knew the first amendment, but other than that, they couldn't name any of them.

 

HD - I hope the other 20% studied the 9th and 14th, which I believe just strengthens the 2nd and all others for that matter.

 

Kaiser - Our politicians never learned it either and they violate it everyday for personal gain. Maybe we need a new amendment to the Constitution that punishes any politician, head of any government agency, any employee of a government agency who attempts to abridge anything in the Constitution.

HD - I hope the other 20% studied the 9th and 14th, which I believe just strengthens the 2nd and all others for that matter.

 

Kaiser - Our politicians never learned it either and they violate it everyday for personal gain. Maybe we need a new amendment to the Constitution that punishes any politician, head of any government agency, any employee of a government agency who attempts to abridge anything in the Constitution.

 

Technically, we are SUPPOSED to have it, it's the 2nd.

My school never even taught the constitution.

 

I think you might have just gone to a terrible school. I had a half-year course on Constitutional Law in 11th grade....

Technically, we are SUPPOSED to have it, it's the 2nd.

 

Haha, touché !

HD - I hope the other 20% studied the 9th and 14th, which I believe just strengthens the 2nd and all others for that matter.

 

Actually it was a few of the girls that did do the 2A, but they picked the 19th, go figure, and I think there was one that picked another one but can't remember what my daughter told me..

I think you might have just gone to a terrible school. I had a half-year course on Constitutional Law in 11th grade....

 

Well, I'll give you that Sterling High School in Somerdale doesn't have enough textbooks for everyone, but we do have ten or so flatscreen TVs in the cafeteria so that they can play ESPN during lunch.