Does anyone know of any objections indoor ranges might have with Speer ( or any) total metal jacket ammo? I'm interested in buying a case.

None i know of. The problem is usually with steel or aluminum cases.

I'm aware of the steel and even aluminum cased ammo. I bought 500 rds of MC before I knew. I was able to sell it but I didn't want to make that is take again. Thanks.

 

Mistake

 

Aslong as whatever you leave on the floor is brass and you are only putting lead and copper in their back stop you will be fine.

TMJ is actually better for use in indoor ranges than FMJ because the jacket covers the back of the projectile on a TMJ round. Some indoor ranges require you to shoot TMJ ammo.

TMJ is fine. I shot lots of that stuff in .40 S&W before I rolled my own. I believe a TMJ has a complete jacket around the bullet with no exposed lead. The FMJ's I load have an exposed lead base.

TMJ has no effect on range equipment (other than an idiot shooting the roof or wall). It actually leaves less lead residue in the air. I'm not sure but I think the non-toxic (NT) types of ammo available are TMJ.

By the way, in a nutshell, what are the reasons for a range to prohibit use of steel or aluminum cased ammo?

By the way, in a nutshell, what are the reasons for a range to prohibit use of steel or aluminum cased ammo?

 

Ranges like to collect the spent brass and sell it to whole salers to get a little extra coin in their pocket. The wholesalers wont take aluminum or steel cased do if the ranges let you shoot it they would have to pick it out of the spent brass.

A-ha, thanks!

Another nice thing about the Speer Lawman 9mm is that it is loaded to to the same velocity as the Speer Gold Dot. It's like practicing with SD ammo.

Seems like seperating ferrous and non ferrous shells would be very easy. However, It was explained to me by the range master at the Bullet Hole (and a few other sources) that steel casings cAn cause friction in the chamber and potentially cause a round to explode in your gun.

Seems like seperating ferrous and non ferrous shells would be very easy. However, It was explained to me by the range master at the Bullet Hole (and a few other sources) that steel casings cAn cause friction in the chamber and potentially cause a round to explode in your gun.

 

The range master is full of shit. That is a myth.

The range master is full of shit. That is a myth.

 

Listen to this man. One real issue is that steel jackets can cause sparks when hitting backstops or exiting your barrel, which could possibly ignite unburned powder residue downrange. Unlikely but possible.

Seems like seperating ferrous and non ferrous shells would be very easy. However, It was explained to me by the range master at the Bullet Hole (and a few other sources) that steel casings cAn cause friction in the chamber and potentially cause a round to explode in your gun.

 

In dry environments, the steel or aluminum cased stuff can cause sparks on the ground against unburned powder that is left on the floor. That can happen, but not likely in NJ, out in the desert, yes.

 

chamber? yeah...... ok.

Seems like seperating ferrous and non ferrous shells would be very easy. However, It was explained to me by the range master at the Bullet Hole (and a few other sources) that steel casings cAn cause friction in the chamber and potentially cause a round to explode in your gun.

 

Separating brass, aluminum, and steel casings from each other is fairly easy, and some, if not many, especially in the larger scrapyards, have the equipment to do it. However, that's more work that the scrap yard has to do. Therefore if they pay $4.00 a pound for straight brass, they might only give you $3.00 a pound for mixed brass/steel, since they have to do the work of separating the metals.

I'll report back on this. I just ordered a case of Speer Lawman.