So there was a lawsuit in NYS over NYC's fee's for exercising a constitutional right.

 

How did it go?

 

Well..........

 

$340 for a NYC pistol license is constitutional according to a Clinton-appointed district court judge:

“

… [Judge John Koeltl] says there’s no evidence the fee has stopped anyone from exercising their rights …”

This wave of thinking will be sure to be imported to NJ soon........

 

via GunPoliticsNY

Ugh. WTH, seems every judge we get in the NE when it comes to R2KBA cases is some "Clinton" appointee....

So there was a lawsuit in NYS over NYC's fee's for exercising a constitutional right.

 

How did it go?

 

Well..........

 

$340 for a NYC pistol license is constitutional according to a Clinton-appointed district court judge:

“

… [Judge John Koeltl] says there’s no evidence the fee has stopped anyone from exercising their rights …”

This wave of thinking will be sure to be imported to NJ soon........

 

via GunPoliticsNY

 

Its amazing 6 bucks for a state issued ID so you can vote is a hardship, but $340 isn't? These clowns need to work on consistency.

Its amazing 6 bucks for a state issued ID so you can vote is a hardship, but $340 isn't? These clowns need to work on consistency.

 

wow what a great point..

 

you win.. +1

FNY.

 

Its amazing 6 bucks for a state issued ID so you can vote is a hardship, but $340 isn't? These clowns need to work on consistency.

 

Holy Jesus you read my mind.

 

 

Holy Jesus you read my mind.

 

Now I'm afraid, very afraid.

Now I'm afraid, very afraid.

 

I'm not as crazy as most here think I am.

Wasn't there a case regarding the 30 day grant or deny period for the PD's, where they were ok if they didn't get back an answer in 30 days. If they claimed that the PD's didn't have manpower, why couldn't one of the 2A organizations push to get the P2P process demolished, or at least pushed into the hands of FFL's ? Let the local PD's and State Police handle the FID's and FFL's crank out the P2P's. Still sending copies to NJSP and the buyers local police department.

In a discussion I had with Bob Viden of Bob's Little Sports Shop, he told me the local NRA is actually working on having the permits abolished. According to him, the NICS check does the same thing as the permits and in less time. Plus you need to run NICS when you purchase any firearm from a dealer anyway.

Wasn't there a case regarding the 30 day grant or deny period for the PD's, where they were ok if they didn't get back an answer in 30 days. If they claimed that the PD's didn't have manpower, why couldn't one of the 2A organizations push to get the P2P process demolished, or at least pushed into the hands of FFL's ? Let the local PD's and State Police handle the FID's and FFL's crank out the P2P's. Still sending copies to NJSP and the buyers local police department.

 

CCW is the hot issue now, there doesn't seem to be any concern for issues other than CCW. That would be a fairly easy case though considering todays economy and they are admitting that they lack manpower to process the permits which are antiquated due to the NICS checks.

 

 

CCW is the hot issue now, there doesn't seem to be any concern for issues other than CCW. That would be a fairly easy case though considering todays economy and they are admitting that they lack manpower to process the permits which are antiquated due to the NICS checks.

 

That's what I'm talking about. They should try to get rid of the P2P's first.

 

As much as I'd like to get CCW in this state, I don't think it's coming any time soon. There are a ton of changes needed for the actual gun laws before CCW can be doable in NJ.

In a discussion I had with Bob Viden of Bob's Little Sports Shop, he told me the local NRA is actually working on having the permits abolished. According to him, the NICS check does the same thing as the permits and in less time. Plus you need to run NICS when you purchase any firearm from a dealer anyway.

 

Had the same discussion with Bob about 3 weeks ago. Let's hope they work together with other organizations like NJ2AS and pull it off.

 

I'm not as crazy as most here think I am.

 

Easy for you to say

Don't worry, it's probably at least 3-4 years down the road before we will have to pay for "voting permits" and "free speech" permits. Unless, of course, our state is too densly populated to allow such things...

@handyman: Those will most likely be "may issue" with "justifiable need" as well.

 

CCW is the hot issue now, there doesn't seem to be any concern for issues other than CCW. That would be a fairly easy case though considering todays economy and they are admitting that they lack manpower to process the permits which are antiquated due to the NICS checks.

 

there is.....but it's one of those things where they dont want to let ANY details out to tip their hand, and before anyone PM's me, No I dont have those details either, but i know there is something brewing vis-a-vis the p2p issue.

@kpdpipes: As you requested, I sent you the 100 PMs, LOL.

as I said before, if there was more action coming concerning P2P's and other issues the organizations that are involved with such issues should let it be known. There are a bunch of people that are willing to put some time and money towards such a fight. If it stays secret squirrel information and only a select few know about it, how are they going to get exposure to get help for such a fight? Also it kinda goes against those organizations when it comes to credibility and transparency. I for one am not going to donate money to an organization not knowing what the funds are going to be spent on. Gimme your money, but dont ask where it's being spent, I dont know. Its secret! To an outsider it may even be looked at as a scam.

There's a tension between showing your plans to your supporters and leaking those plans to your enemies. In this case, I'd say that "below-the'radar" is justified (right now).