Oh, that's one of those new compact versions, right?

 

Well, if you consider 1985 "new"

Probably someone trying to justify their "45"

It's funny that .45 guys would make that justification... Since you can get a more powerful round in a 6 shooter.

 

 

Well, if you consider 1985 "new"

 

Austin Behlert used to build chopped 1911s back in the 70s that had 6 rd mags. He also built chopped S&W Model 39s. This was the inspiration for Colt to build the Officers Model and S&W to build the 469 in the 80s.

 

There was also the Star PD that was made in the 70s which was the first factory compact 1911 style pistol.

Austin Behlert used to build chopped 1911s back in the 70s that had 6 rd mags. He also built chopped S&W Model 39s. This was the inspiration for Colt to build the Officers Model and S&W to build the 469 in the 80s.

 

Also chopped P35's. I knew Austin and shot IPSC with his son Frank.

Austin was a gifted pistolsmith ahead of his time. He was a nice down-to-earth guy as well.

Austin was a gifted pistolsmith ahead of his time. He was a nice down-to-earth guy as well.

 

Here's an Austin Behlert story that's amusing. I can't vouch for its truthfulness, but it makes for a great story...

 

Austin was set-up behind the line at Camp Perry, doing minor gunsmithing for the participants. A shooter, in obvious distress, ran up to Austin's stand and said, "Austin, I'm due on the line in 5 minutes and I just realized my front sight is bent." "Let me see it", says Austin, and the competitor hands over his treasured High Standard. "Yep, it's bent" declares Austin. The shooter, now even more frantic, says, "Can you fix it in time?" Austin tells the shooter to take a shooting stance, extend the gun and look down the sights and then turn his head and close his eyes. The shooter follows Austin's instructions, whereupon Austin picks up a brass mallet from the bench and whacks the front sight. The shooter goes ballistic. "What the heck did you just do?" "What are you nuts?" To which Austin replies, "Look down the sights. Is it straight now?" The shooter looks and in an incredulous voice says, "Yes, yes they are." Austin says, "Fine, that'll be $15." "$15 for whacking it with a hammer" the shooter protests. "No" says Austin, "It's only $5 for whacking it with a hammer and $10 for knowing how hard."

 

I must have picked-up that story in the mid-80's when I shot IPSC in the same club as Austin's son. That would have been when their shop was in Pipersville, PA.

 

Adios,

 

Pizza Bob

 

 

Also chopped P35's. I knew Austin and shot IPSC with his son Frank.

 

The Brownings were nice and so were Behlert revolvers. Austin was truly an artist. I only knew them from the hop in Kenilworth and Union.

News to me. Thanks to everyone for clarifying.

 

Stinks that possession is illegal. I primarily shoot in PA. As much as I like my 15 round mags I'd like to have a 30 just as an option to use when I'm out in PA. Looks like I don't have that option at all.

News to me. Thanks to everyone for clarifying.

 

Stinks that possession is illegal. I primarily shoot in PA. As much as I like my 15 round mags I'd like to have a 30 just as an option to use when I'm out in PA. Looks like I don't have that option at all.

 

 

Correct, unless you have a shooting buddy in PA that you can leave your mags with.

Well, if you consider 1985 "new"

 

Considering the design is 101 years old, yeah. 1985 is brand new in that context.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Here's an Austin Behlert story that's amusing. I can't vouch for its truthfulness, but it makes for a great story...

 

Austin was set-up behind the line at Camp Perry, doing minor gunsmithing for the participants. A shooter, in obvious distress, ran up to Austin's stand and said, "Austin, I'm due on the line in 5 minutes and I just realized my front sight is bent." "Let me see it", says Austin, and the competitor hands over his treasured High Standard. "Yep, it's bent" declares Austin. The shooter, now even more frantic, says, "Can you fix it in time?" Austin tells the shooter to take a shooting stance, extend the gun and look down the sights and then turn his head and close his eyes. The shooter follows Austin's instructions, whereupon Austin picks up a brass mallet from the bench and whacks the front sight. The shooter goes ballistic. "What the heck did you just do?" "What are you nuts?" To which Austin replies, "Look down the sights. Is it straight now?" The shooter looks and in an incredulous voice says, "Yes, yes they are." Austin says, "Fine, that'll be $15." "$15 for whacking it with a hammer" the shooter protests. "No" says Austin, "It's only $5 for whacking it with a hammer and $10 for knowing how hard."

 

I must have picked-up that story in the mid-80's when I shot IPSC in the same club as Austin's son. That would have been when their shop was in Pipersville, PA.

 

Adios,

 

Pizza Bob

 

It has to be true or at least very likely. I've heard this story several times from a vaiety of people including a few pro gun scribes.

Oh, that's one of those new compact versions, right? I'm only familiar with the fullsize models. John Browning designed the pistol with a 7 round magazine. Didn't even think that anyone would make one even smaller than that.

It was developed at Rock Island Armory (the REAL RIA) in 1975 as the "General Officer's Model" for, General's to carry, replacing the old 1903 Pocket Models, that had been issued to Generals. It was eventually offered for sale by Colt as the "Officer's ACP" model in 1985 after seeing Detonics, and other Custom makers offering chopped versions modeled after the "General Officer's Model"

It was developed at Rock Island Armory (the REAL RIA) in 1975 as the "General Officer's Model" for, General's to carry, replacing the old 1903 Pocket Models, that had been issued to Generals. It was eventually offered for sale by Colt as the "Officer's ACP" model in 1985 after seeing Detonics, and other Custom makers offering chopped versions modeled after the "General Officer's Model"

 

The 1975 RIA General Officer's model used a full-size grip frame with a top-end shorter than the Commander. It wasn't until the 1985 commercial version that they went with the shortened grip frame.

 

 

.45's need no justification

 

 

especially with an fnh fnp 45, 15+1, justified...

especially with an fnh fnp 45, 15+1, justified...

That's nice

Anybody wanna buy some 30-round Magazines for your Glock 21? I own property in PA and since I am an NJ resident, I believe I cannot legally have hi-cap magazines if I keep them in PA.

 

(I don't have any illegal hi-cap Glock magazines, by the way.)

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Anybody wanna buy some 30-round Magazines for your Glock 21? I own property in PA and since I am an NJ resident, I believe I cannot legally have hi-cap magazines if I keep them in PA.

 

(I don't have any illegal hi-cap Glock magazines, by the way.)

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It is legal to own and keep hi-cap mags out of state, just don't bring them across the river.

do you think 20 round mags that only fit bolt actions are gtg . ww1 1903 aircore ?

do you think 20 round mags that only fit bolt actions are gtg . ww1 1903 aircore ?

 

If there are no semi-auto firearms that can accept that magazine and function correctly, then yes, they are perfectly legal. The mag limits are semi-auto only.

especially with an fnh fnp 45, 15+1, justified...

 

Do you like that gun? I checked one out but didn't like the checkering of the grips too much. I really would like a double stack .45 ACP, I haven't totally written that gun off yet.