...before I end up on someone's watchlist?

 

I have 3 of the custom lowers on order, and another member has asked if I'd like to buy his order slot. What's going to happen when they call up NICS and they say it's for 4 long guns?

who cares? Dude, there are lots of people out there that have more than enough guns that it's almost comedic.

IMO, if you own more then 1 firearm you are already on a watchlist. But who gives a fugg.

i wouldn't worry about it, people buy WAY more then that at a time...

Your allowed to buy five to seven long arms a week... From what I was told. Could be wrong. But if you own more than one firearm in household ATF keeping watch on you already

Your allowed to buy five to seven long arms a week... From what I was told. Could be wrong. But if you own more than one firearm in household ATF keeping watch on you already

 

Who told you that?

IMO, if you own more then 1 firearm you are already on a watchlist. But who gives a fugg.

 

 

They must have a hell of a lot of people at the ATF to watch all those people.

U can buy as many long guns as u please.

They must have a hell of a lot of people at the ATF to watch all those people.

 

I have detected your sarcasm.

What's going to happen when they call up NICS and they say it's for 4 long guns?

 

they are going to assume you are starting a militia and drive tanks into your home...

I know of one guy who acquired 24 guns at once.

Isn't a lower receiver an "other" and not a long arm? Doesn't change the fact that you can buy as many as you want - just that you have to be 21 to do so. Also, there is a multiple handgun reporting form to be filed with the BATFE - don't know if it applies to "others" - Paul?

 

Adios,

 

Pizza Bob

Only handguns.

Not to derail this topic, but can you buy a lower in Pennsylvania?

Not to derail this topic, but can you buy a lower in Pennsylvania?

 

No. Must transfer through a NJ FFL.

No. Must transfer through a NJ FFL.

 

Thanks uncle Bobby.

 

 

No. Must transfer through a NJ FFL.

 

Is that because you can make a "pistol" out of it?

Youd be surprised at reading some of the discussions on other state/national gun forums how people order lowers for personal use in quantities of 10. Blew my mind.

Is that because you can make a "pistol" out of it?

 

A year or two or go the PASP decided that lowers weren't rifles. Until then, you could buy lowers at PA gun shows and it was great. I think the problem is that lowers are "other" - instead of long gun or hand gun....

I know of one guy who acquired 24 guns at once.

 

So, what's the largest number of guns anyone has bought in NJ at once? I've bought three (at the Rahway FAGs) - one handgun, and then while waiting found two rifles to add onto the form while they were on hold.

 

Is that because you can make a "pistol" out of it?

 

It's because it transfers as "other" which transfers like a handgun rather than a long gun.

The law always stated that only long guns can be purchased from an out of state dealer. Lowers and receivers are not yet long guns until they are built into one by an 07 Licensee (manufacturer) or a non-licensee.

 

Also, one must be 21 YOA to purchase a lower or receiver from a dealer, as per Federal Law.

Your allowed to buy five to seven long arms a week... From what I was told. Could be wrong. But if you own more than one firearm in household ATF keeping watch on you already

 

There is no limit to long arms, and if you have an exemption, and P2P's to match you could buy as many handguns as you applied for at one time also.

I know of one guy who acquired 24 guns at once.

 

Was that a few weeks before you went to Hawaii??? LOL

Is that because you can make a "pistol" out of it?

 

ATF classifies a Lower as an "Other" not as a Pistol or Rifle.

 

I know a guy who bought IIRC 25 or 30 lowers, HE got a call from his friendly local ATF agent, guy explained that he had 5 or 6 kids, and a herd of grandkids, and he was going to build up ar's for them..ATF guy was friendly and helpful, just reminded him that if he started dumping them off, he might be looking at "Unlicensed Dealer" issues, and went on his way.

...before I end up on someone's watchlist?

 

I have 3 of the custom lowers on order, and another member has asked if I'd like to buy his order slot. What's going to happen when they call up NICS and they say it's for 4 long guns?

 

NICS would have no way of knowing how many long guns or receivers you are buying when a check is done, all they know is you are doing a transfer, the number of firearms transferred is not revealed to them.

ATF classifies a Lower as an "Other" not as a Pistol or Rifle.

 

I know a guy who bought IIRC 25 or 30 lowers, HE got a call from his friendly local ATF agent, guy explained that he had 5 or 6 kids, and a herd of grandkids, and he was going to build up ar's for them..ATF guy was friendly and helpful, just reminded him that if he started dumping them off, he might be looking at "Unlicensed Dealer" issues, and went on his way.

 

How did the ATF become aware of what he purchased?

How did the ATF become aware of what he purchased?

 

Could have happened during an audit. IOI looks over the 4473, sees two dozen plus lowers on the same 4473, makes a note to follow up with the end user.

Could have happened during an audit. IOI looks over the 4473, sees two dozen plus lowers on the same 4473, makes a note to follow up with the end user.

 

I was talking to a dealer yesterday that had just been audited by the ATF, and they were asking him why one guy had bought 15 lowers (not sure if they were sold at one time or over a year or so). It didn't seem like they were going to go talk to the buyer, but it did get their attention.

I was talking to a dealer yesterday that had just been audited by the ATF, and they were asking him why one guy had bought 15 lowers (not sure if they were sold at one time or over a year or so). It didn't seem like they were going to go talk to the buyer, but it did get their attention.

 

IIRC from the story at the time it turned out that the FFL had called ATF, figuring the guy was buying them Cheap (VERY cheap, group buy just post Ban), then turning around and marking them up and dumping them at gunshows....which interestingly, the FFL was doing himself. Like I said, guy spoke with the ATF agent, explained what he was doing, affirmed that he was aware of the Law concerning selling them, and went on his merry way...he DID have some words with the FFL, and the name of the place was passed around to the members of the HTF on that site.