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CCW Assaulted by Police

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Video didn't work that good for me.

 

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/its-my-gun-minn-man-beaten-arrested-for-reportedly-carrying-handgun-despite-having-concealed-carry-permit/

 

It’s My Gun’: Minn. Man Beaten, Arrested for Reportedly Carrying Handgun… Despite Having Concealed Carry Permit

 

A Minneapolis man says he suffered a concussion after receiving a beating from five police officers who attacked him after they noticed he was carrying a gun in his waist band, WCCO-TV in Minnesota reports.

(Related: Minn. Man Beaten, Arrested For Carrying Legal Gun Gives More Details to The Blaze (Feared Death and Wasn’t Drinking))

(Related: TX Cop Pulls Over Motorist In Order to Confiscate His Helmet Cam – Arrests Him When He Objects)

The problem is, Zachary King has a concealed carry permit to lawfully carry the firearm. He argues police still attacked him anyway as he was leaving a local nightclub on Father’s Day night even after he told them he was carrying the permit.

“’I have my conceal and carry, and it’s my gun.’ And soon as I said that he grabbed me by my neck, slammed me against the wall, snatched my gun out the holster, started waving it in the air saying ‘gun, gun, gun,’” King said.

King also told WCCO he said nothing disrespectful to the officers and made no sudden movements that could have warranted the reaction from police.

“Then four other officers just came and slammed me on my face, one of the officers had me by my head just banging it on the sidewalk,” he said.

The permit was eventually discovered but King was reportedly taken to jail anyway.

WCCO has more on the incident:

 

King says officers eventually went for his back pocket and his wallet to get his weapons permit.

 

“And he goes like this to show them that I have my card and they stopped beating me,” said King.

King was then taken to the hospital before his last stop, jail.

It should be noted that King was previously arrested and not charged after recording police in April — a video he says showed an abuse of power. Additionally, he was acquitted of manslaughter in 2008 after his pit bull mauled to death his 7-year-old son. King’s attorney, Michael Padden, says his client, then “has zero criminal record.”

WCCO incorrectly identified the attorney as “Mike Patton.” The Blaze recently spoke with Padden and verified his identity.

“It takes a lot of courage to come forward in this type of situation. He doesn’t want to see this happen to other people,” said Padden.

Still, King was ultimately charged in the most recent incident with misdemeanor obstructing the legal process, according to KAAL-TV in Minnesota.

“There will be no plea and we’ll take the case to trial, if need be,” said Padden.

The photos below, courtesy of WCCO, show the extent of King’s injuries

 

King says a bystander was able to capture the attack on video, a portion of which can be seen in the video at the top of this report. Padden is reportedly coordinating with Internal Affairs and hopes that street video from Minneapolis Police cameras will also shed some light on the incident.

Minneapolis Police told WCCO they cannot comment on the case because an open civilian review authority investigation is currently underway.

KAAL reports that several dozen people staged rallies in Minneapolis Friday denouncing police brutality following the incident.

“No justice, no peace. Prosecute the police,” the groups could be heard chanting.

According to the Minnesota Department of Public Safety, residents are prohibited from carrying their handguns while at the following places:

  • School property
  • A childcare center while children are present
  • Public colleges and universities – may have policy restricting the carrying of weapons on their premises by employees and students while on campus
  • Private establishments that have posted a sign banning guns on their premises
  • Private establishments who have personally informed the permit holder that guns are prohibited and demands compliance
  • Places of employment, public or private, if employer restricts the carry or possession of firearms by is employees
  • State correctional facilities or state hospitals and grounds (MN Statute 243.55)
  • Any jail, lockup or correctional facility (MN Statute 641.165)
  • Courthouse complexes, unless the sheriff is notified (MN Statute 609.66)
  • Offices and courtrooms of the Minnesota Supreme Court and Court of Appeals
  • Any state building in the Capitol Area of St. Paul described in MN Statute Chapter 15B unless the commissioner of public safety is notified (MN Statute 609.66)
  • In federal court facilities or other federal facilities (Title 18 U.S.C.§ 930)

We searched Minnesota’s statute database and could not find any mention of a restriction against carrying a pistol into an establishment that serves alcohol, however, concealed carry holders are generally discouraged from carrying places like bars, especially when drinking alcohol.

Further, Minnesota statute 624.7142 says it is a crime to carry a concealed handgun when under the influence of alcohol. It is unclear whether King had been drinking that night.

Leaving a bar with a gun in his waistband was not very smart, specially if the bar has frequent visits from the police.

 

I've got to say, he's not a very sympathetic CCWr but he didn't deserve the beating he got. The cops have to learn to respect the law, just as they expect us to.

Why was he open carrying? Dumb!

 

He wasn't. Even if he was, the only thing that would make it dumb would be because he would have a greater chance of being beaten up by police. Turns out, that happened anyway. So I suppose carrying a firearm is dumb because you might get assaulted by criminals wearing badges?

 

“No justice, no peace. Prosecute the police,”

 

Sounds very applicable in this case. Won't happen though. Corrupt corrupt corrupt.

 

But we aren't close to a police state....:rolleyes:

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Why was he open carrying? Dumb!

 

He wasn't. The report said the police "saw a bulge" under his shirt.

 

Leaving a bar with a gun in his waistband was not very smart, specially if the bar has frequent visits from the police.

 

Agreed Mark, but in some states it is not illegal to carry in a bar. I believe in some states it isn't even illegal to have a drink, just can't be intoxicated.

 

He may have just been out and stopped to see friends without drinking, who knows. Still didn't deserve the beat down or being harassed.

 

I've got to say, he's not a very sympathetic CCWr but he didn't deserve the beating he got. The cops have to learn to respect the law, just as they expect us to.

Why was he open carrying? Dumb!

He wasn't. The article states that the officer saw the outline of the gun under his shirt...

In the other article (linked from the first), it stated he was out to watch a performance of a friend. He wasn't drinking. The test administered by the police and hospital showed he had a BAC of 0. He wasn't open carrying. He stated to police that he had a permit. The concealed carry, and open carry, at bars and night clubs, is legal where he was.

 

Considering he was charged with "obstructing the legal process", I'd say there is almost no chance he did anything illegal. What 'legal process' was he obstructing?

 

Never mind, I figured it out.

 

His presence obstructed the officers from performing any legal process, because they were too busy in the illegal process of beating him up. Got it!

Why was he open carrying? Dumb!

 

theres NOTHING 'dumb' about exercising your legal rights; if minn. has an open carry law, and it was free and accepted in the club he was in.

Leaving a bar with a gun in his waistband was not very smart, specially if the bar has frequent visits from the police.

 

I've got to say, he's not a very sympathetic CCWr but he didn't deserve the beating he got. The cops have to learn to respect the law, just as they expect us to.

 

I disagree. Exercising your constitutional rights is ALWAYS smart. Use 'em or lose 'em.

 

That citizen had no reason to be assaulted by those officers. They need to be brought to justice. Any average schmo that commits assault and battery to that degree would easily see many years in prison. Thugs with badges are still thugs. Weed out the bad cops, and you'll be left with good cops. Hard bumpy road to get there though.

Guy was exercising a constitutional right that we all wish we had. Does everything legally and still gets beat by police, and he gets called dumb?

I disagree. Exercising your constitutional rights is ALWAYS smart. Use 'em or lose 'em.

 

 

 

His method of carry is consistent with bad guys. This probably would not have happened had the firearm been secured properly in a holster of some type. That's why it was dumb, not because he was carrying. If that bar is a frequent call by the cops, they have probably tuned up lots of other guys carrying illegal guns the same way.

 

There is a right way and a wrong way to carry your firearms in public. Carry it like a thug, expect a beat down, simple as that. Wrong as it is, that's the way it is and shouting you have license while you're getting your head bashed into the cement shouldn't be a surprise to anyone.

 

The cops behavior is inexcusable, they should be punished but don't ignore the stupidity of the guy with the gun.

 

Misread story.

His method of carry is consistent with bad guys. This probably would not have happened had the firearm been secured properly in a holster of some type. That's why it was dumb, not because he was carrying. If that bar is a frequent call by the cops, they have probably tuned up lots of other guys carrying illegal guns the same way.

 

There is a right way and a wrong way to carry your firearms in public. Carry it like a thug, expect a beat down, simple as that. Wrong as it is, that's the way it is and shouting you have license while you're getting your head bashed into the cement shouldn't be a surprise to anyone.

 

The cops behavior is inexcusable, they should be punished but don't ignore the stupidity of the guy with the gun.

 

Either you know something that I don't or I'm not understanding what you mean. How is carrying a pistol in a holster carrying it 'like a thug'?

 

I am concerned that you are even attempting to justify his beating right now.

Either you know something that I don't or I'm not understanding what you mean. How is carrying a pistol in a holster carrying it 'like a thug'?

 

I am concerned that you are even attempting to justify his beating right now.

 

You're right, I missed that. I read that he had it in his waistband...further down it mentions a holster.

“’I have my conceal and carry, and it’s my gun.’ And soon as I said that he grabbed me by my neck, slammed me against the wall, snatched my gun out the holster, started waving it in the air saying ‘gun, gun, gun,’” King said.

You're right, I missed that. I read that he had it in his waistband...further down it mentions a holster.

 

Even if a guy carries his gun like a "thug", that in and itself does not warrant the severe beating this man was the victim of. The fact that the victim was carrying his pistol in a secure manner, had a BAC of .0, and was carrying concealed all are the absolute correct things to do to NOT get a beating from police. Yet this man is treated by the cops like he is walking out of a whites-only bar in 1960's Birmingham, Alabama. The brutality is that severe.

 

My question is this: What has happened to our police forces? Why are they becoming increasingly violent towards citizens?

Even if a guy carries his gun like a "thug", that in and itself does not warrant the severe beating this man was the victim of. The fact that the victim was carrying his pistol in a secure manner, had a BAC of .0, and was carrying concealed all are the absolute correct things to do to NOT get a beating from police. Yet this man is treated by the cops like he is walking out of a whites-only bar in 1960's Birmingham, Alabama. The brutality is that severe.

 

My question is this: What has happened to our police forces? Why are they becoming increasingly violent towards citizens?

 

This..

 

its obvious that group of cops were waiting outside this nightclub trying to grab "drunk and dis-orderlies", but decided to beat this black guy up without checking his identifications.

If he was CCWing and was attacked, could he have shot the cops to defend himself?

If he was CCWing and was attacked, could he have shot the cops to defend himself?

I was wondering that myself. But who in the hell would believe you if you tried to explain your story to them .

Even if a guy carries his gun like a "thug", that in and itself does not warrant the severe beating this man was the victim of. The fact that the victim was carrying his pistol in a secure manner, had a BAC of .0, and was carrying concealed all are the absolute correct things to do to NOT get a beating from police. Yet this man is treated by the cops like he is walking out of a whites-only bar in 1960's Birmingham, Alabama. The brutality is that severe.

 

My question is this: What has happened to our police forces? Why are they becoming increasingly violent towards citizens?

 

exactly. thats like saying just because you happen to be driving a car capable of 150+mph while going to the store, you should be pulled over for speeding even though youre going the posted 35. if minn. has an open carry law, then he has every right to open carry if he wants. even if he didnt have a holster (which i know he did), so what if it was just stuck in his waistband. has no one heard of hip clips? grips for revolvers that are made with a clip to snag your pants? or the clip for kel-tecs? or glocks?

 

i would rather be in a club with an honest, legal citizen with a pistol stuck in his pants then walk through any NJ street where a REAL 'thug' is covered in baggy clothes and you have no idea if hes armed or not.

Why was he open carrying?

 

I was at sheetz at around 8am the other morning after dropping my girlfriend off at work...

I was open carrying my Glock 27...

 

I ran into one of the mall security guards from the mall I work at (that I am friendly with) and he was like what the hell is that..

I told him oh its a 27..

He is like why are you carrying like that..

and I said to him because I can, the more people openly carry guns the less sensitive people are to them... I want people to see guns.. see them on a daily basis.. know that people can carry them and there not be a cause for alarm... the more you hide guns.. shuffle them into the shadows.. the more it says there is something wrong with them.. a reason to hide them.. there are times and places to carry concealed... but most of the time I open carry.. I grocery shop with a gun on my hip....

 

the notion that a gun should always be concealed is one I do not agree with...if you are carrying a gun you should know how to retain your weapon... you should have some type of force training.. and if that is the case.. openly carrying a gun in a holster with a retention system providing you are aware... is IMO relatively safe..

Why was he open carrying? Dumb!

Sorry guys, I missed that part!

and I said to him because I can, the more people openly carry guns the less sensitive people are to them... I want people to see guns.. see them on a daily basis.. know that people can carry them and there not be a cause for alarm... the more you hide guns.. shuffle them into the shadows.. the more it says there is something wrong with them.. a reason to hide them.. there are times and places to carry concealed... but most of the time I open carry.. I grocery shop with a gun on my hip....

 

the notion that a gun should always be concealed is one I do not agree with...if you are carrying a gun you should know how to retain your weapon... you should have some type of force training.. and if that is the case.. openly carrying a gun in a holster with a retention system providing you are aware... is IMO relatively safe..

 

+100 I could not agree more with you.

 

If he was CCWing and was attacked, could he have shot the cops to defend himself?

 

Legally, I would say, yes he could have, based on both the severity of the beating and the fact he is quoted as saying something along the lines of that he thought he was going to die. That means he felt his life was endangered. The supreme court has ruled you are authorized to use force, up to and including deadly force, if necessary, against unlawful use of force by police.

 

But like silverado said, who would believe him? Considering he was illegally assault, detained, arrested, and charged with a made up crime, I'm sure the same department would get a prosecutor to charge him for the use of lawful force. After painting him as a cop killing thug, they'd probably get a conviction too.

 

http://constitution.org/uslaw/defunlaw.htm

 

http://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/177/529/case.html

Man some body's doing a terrible job of educating these cops, When it come's to CCW. A gang bangers one thing !!! A legal CCW holder should get respect, same as the officer.

That isn't a priority for them anymore.

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