Just saw this article on slashdot...

 

http://tech.slashdot.org/story/12/07/27/1637208/how-a-3-year-old-can-open-a-gun-safe

 

 

And link to article

 

http://www.forbes.com/sites/marcwebertobias/2012/07/27/unsafe-gun-safes-can-be-opened-by-a-three-year-old/

Interesting how the Forbes article takes up four pages repeating that a 3 year old could open the safe yet never provides any information on the actual safes affected (only manufacturers) and never demonstrates how the three year old did it??? There is a reference to a video which I couldn't find a link to, what gives?? If they are so interested in protecting the public why not show us the flaw in action or at least say mre than a three year old did it with a piece of brass??

There are 2 embedded videos showing toddlers picking up and dropping (about 4") one end of the safe which was enough to allow the plunger, via inertia, to unlock the mechanism and open the safe door. This method of opening the Stack-on safes has been around for a while on youtube.

After watching the video, I wonder if a bolted down safe would be a problem. The kid always gets in by jostling the safe.

After watching the video, I wonder if a bolted down safe would be a problem. The kid always gets in by jostling the safe.

 

It's always best to bolt down these small safes otherwise it'll make it much easier for a burglar to just walk out with the whole package. My quick access safe is secured as all safes should be.

 

If bolted down, the 3 year old won't be able to defeat it by the lift & drop method.

I believe you may find the answer to your questions here http://www.thesidebar.org/insecurity/?p=793

Complete Hack job.

 

A 3 year old opens a safe by entering the correct combo. I wonder who give a three year old the combo to a "Safe"

 

Yes these can be opened. 30 seconds with a grinder, 2 seconds with a axe etc.

 

They are meant to restrict easy access to the contents, not an attack. None of these devices are a safe.

Anyone can get into any safe. All that is needed is determination and time. My gun cabinet (steel cabinet, dual lock) isn't going to stop anyone that REALLY wants to get into it. It will however stop my daughter and any other little kiddies from getting at the goods and that is what is important.

 

As I build my "Armory" (its what I call my "man cave") the cabinet will be enclosed on the sides and back by walls, (maybe encased in brick?) with a false wall/access panel to the door. Stupid, yes. Fun, you bet'cha.

People are retarded, of course with any bit of will-power and creative thinking somebody can get into these types of safe.

 

Soulution ? Stop recording " how to open daddys gun safe " videos and putting them on youtube for 6 and 7 year old kids to watch. F**king asshats.

 

They think they are being helpful by doing this, but in reality - people still buy them everyday, and now little johnny elementary school knows how to get in. Good job

People are retarded, of course with any bit of will-power and creative thinking somebody can get into these types of safe.

 

Soulution ? Stop recording " how to open daddy's gun safe " videos and putting them on youtube for 6 and 7 year old kids to watch. F**king asshats.

 

They think they are being helpful by doing this, but in reality - people still buy them everyday, and now little johnny elementary school knows how to get in. Good job

 

+1

People are retarded, of course with any bit of will-power and creative thinking somebody can get into these types of safe.

 

Soulution ? Stop recording " how to open daddys gun safe " videos and putting them on youtube for 6 and 7 year old kids to watch. F**king asshats.

 

They think they are being helpful by doing this, but in reality - people still buy them everyday, and now little johnny elementary school knows how to get in. Good job

 

Sorry, but some of these are designed so very badly that they shouldn't be on the market as a security container. There are some that have issues that can be mitigated at a reasonable cost if you know what they are. There are also products that are pretty good for just a bit more money.

 

Pretending they aren't won't help anyone.

Sorry, but some of these are designed so very badly that they shouldn't be on the market as a security container. There are some that have issues that can be mitigated at a reasonable cost if you know what they are. There are also products that are pretty good for just a bit more money.

 

Pretending they aren't won't help anyone.

 

No doubt it's a double edged sword when aruging it. Manufacturers should do a better job designing it, but making it so easy to access it so easily with a few clicks through youtube is unacceptable. I'd more blame the people who made the video then the manufacturer of the safe after a child watched the video and got a hold of a gun and something bad happened.

People are retarded, of course with any bit of will-power and creative thinking somebody can get into these types of safe.

 

Soulution ? Stop recording " how to open daddys gun safe " videos and putting them on youtube for 6 and 7 year old kids to watch. F**king asshats.

 

They think they are being helpful by doing this, but in reality - people still buy them everyday, and now little johnny elementary school knows how to get in. Good job

 

It points out the pathetic engineering. Maybe the manufacturers will step up their design.

Maybe I will just keep the safe where my kids can't reach it.

Personally, I coundn't care less about 3 year olds. I had thought that my gunsafe was at least enough a deterent to a burglar that they would just move on because they didn't have enough time.

 

For the money spent on it my gunsafe, those videos make it look like I am a chump.

I was under the impression that its better to cable or chain a safe than to bolt it down. Ive seen too many stories of bolted down safes having their doors pried open.

I was under the impression that its better to cable or chain a safe than to bolt it down. Ive seen too many stories of bolted down safes having their doors pried open.

 

Have a quality safe, and that won't be a problem. I bet those "stories" you have seen are all about piss-weak safes with 10 gauge or thinner steel doors. Barely thicker than a tin can, for all intents and purposes.

I just watched the video , had my dad bang on my safe a bit , and the f'in door popped open. I think I'm going to go in wall. It is a stack on safe.

Have a quality safe, and that won't be a problem. I bet those "stories" you have seen are all about piss-weak safes with 10 gauge or thinner steel doors. Barely thicker than a tin can, for all intents and purposes.

 

the problem is what is a "quality safe?" is it based upon the pricetag? All the retailers are in the tank for the manufacturers.

 

As a pistol box, I have a Fort Knox Pistol Box (Simplex Lock)

 

I did a LOT of research and it was the only portable, quick access box that didn't have a single negative review anywhere I looked. It cost maybe 10% more than the gun vault, stack-on, sentry stuff. It seems tough to me, but how can you be so sure short of trying to bust into it myself?