None of this matters because the perps just get back on the street anyway. Until that is addressed nothing with change.

None of this matters because the perps just get back on the street anyway. Until that is addressed nothing with change.

 

And that won't happen because people are to concerned about banning the sale of lasers.

I think otherwise law-abiding citizens getting caught with handguns don't end up right back on the streets. They tend to stay in jail for years.

I think otherwise law-abiding citizens getting caught with handguns don't end up right back on the streets. They tend to stay in jail for years.

 

Fixed.

I think otherwise law-abiding citizens getting caught with handguns don't end up right back on the streets. They tend to stay in jail for years.

how is that?

how is that?

 

If you aren't a thug you can't plea bargain because you don't have any other charges.

And you have no intel to offer as a snitch. Sad but true

If law abiding gun owners aren't thrown in jail, how else can we demonstrate how well NJ gun laws, and judicial system work?

It makes for a more sensational story too.."Suburban taxpayer has an arsenal of SIX guns!"

film at 11

You can buy a vest..Just dont do anything illegal with it on. You know its a bad neighborhood yet you open up a bodega...dont feel bad for you

 

I've read some stupid shit on this site but this takes the cake.

 

I've read some stupid shit on this site but this takes the cake.

 

Oh yeah ...THAT'S the dumbest thing ever stated here. Good thing your opinion means shit to me. Thanks for your profound input on this matter.

Oh yeah ...THAT'S the dumbest thing ever stated here. Good thing your opinion means shit to me. Thanks for your profound input on this matter.

 

I can attest, he has said dumber things than that! Don't worry BlueLine I got your back. LOL

Oh yeah ...THAT'S the dumbest thing ever stated here. Good thing your opinion means shit to me. Thanks for your profound input on this matter.

 

You took the time to reply, but I won't read into that. Furthermore, I've read several of your posts on "us vs them" threads where your excoriating the bashers for having "anti' attitudes. Then you're going to make a statement like that on a semi public forum? If you truly meant it I wonder if you're fit to be a cop. Ah, doesn't matter "serve and protect" are just some words that looks good on the side of a black and white.

 

Also, nice come back... but if you had read and understood my comment you'd know it was relative to what I've read on this site not the entirety of what has been written on this site. So yeah, I'm sure there is dumber stuff out there, perhaps you penned some of it I don't really know. My point was your comment was ridiculous.

I was going to reply but i really dont feel like getting into another pointless argument. Think what you want about me. I know the truth. Have a nice day.

How I imagine arguments over the internet. TO THE DEATH!!!

 

Agreed. Its like larping. All the show but no real glory.

How does every freeking new topic become cops vs citizens on this board because cops carry guns..I fully believe in CCW..but until that fight is won in either court or legislation and you want to carry a gun everyday..everyone has/had the oppurtunity to take a multitude of LE tests available and join the ranks. Dont make it us vs. them..Cops dont live to screw the average person everyday.

How does every freeking new topic become cops vs citizens on this board because cops carry guns..I fully believe in CCW..but until that fight is won in either court or legislation and you want to carry a gun everyday..everyone has/had the oppurtunity to take a multitude of LE tests available and join the ranks. Dont make it us vs. them..Cops dont live to screw the average person everyday.

 

According to a lot of people here we do. I am also for ccw and peoples right to defend themselves. When you see day in and say out people doing the same things over and over. Then complaining about their situation it gets annoying. Everybody has options and choices. Too many people blame others and point fingers and look for handouts. Sorry if my comments came off harsh or condescending but if tou are so tired of a situation then change it. If you feel better then wear a vest. That wont stop the problem. The police arent the problem. We arent too busy trying to screw everybody to protect those that need it. Do you think we like arresting the same people over and over. I didnt carry a gun my whole life and i managed to keep myself and my family safe. Dont be pissed because i get to carry all the time. If i could make the rules you could too if you met the eligibility. Im here because i like guns and shooting and want to better myself at a part of my job where training is lacking. There are a lot of opinions here i dont like but guess what i wont stop anybody from having them. All cop and vs civilian shit is garbage. I never want it to come off that way because i definitely dont think i am better than anyone because i am a cop. If my comments come off that way sometimes i apologize.

Reading this you would think that police are trolling around all day trying to take peoples guns away..in reality 95% of most police investigative and intelligence resources are devotef to drugs, gangs and preventing extremists from blowing something up.

99 percent of my day is related to anti terror patrols. Me getting blown up is far more likely than getting shot being that my command is one of the top terror targets if not the top one

The minimart they're talking about is up the street from my school, and its a real crappy place. I never stop in but there are always shady people about, and it looks like there is a brothel type place behind it. Juvie is also a block or two away.

How does every freeking new topic become cops vs citizens on this board because cops carry guns.

 

They don't. Only the topics where the cop says he couldn't care less if you die because you can't defend yourself do.

That's not what I meant. Of course I care if a victim suffers harm due to the acts of another. What I don't feel bad for is the people who keep themselves in these situations. . Do I want something to happen, no of course not. If you do nothing to remove yourself then what do you expect. Something is bound to happen. The ability to defend yourself has nothing to do with it. Business owners can carry in their place of business. An individual can own a bulletproof vest. So do it if it makes you feel better do it and don't let yourself be a victim. If you choose not to then it's on you and it is what it is.

How I imagine arguments over the internet. TO THE DEATH!!!

 

 

Needs more purse flailing

Awwww.....they r adorable.

That's not what I meant. Of course I care if a victim suffers harm due to the acts of another. What I don't feel bad for is the people who keep themselves in these situations. . Do I want something to happen, no of course not. If you do nothing to remove yourself then what do you expect. Something is bound to happen. The ability to defend yourself has nothing to do with it. Business owners can carry in their place of business. An individual can own a bulletproof vest. So do it if it makes you feel better do it and don't let yourself be a victim. If you choose not to then it's on you and it is what it is.

 

You keep restating the same crap and it keeps making you look like an idiot to some of us. That's the problem. If we used your logic on yourself, we would sound ridiculous.

 

Lets try

 

You work at or around WTC. By your own admission, it's an area where terrorists love to attack. If you and the rest of the men and women in blue there got hurt or worse due to another terrorist attack of course we would feel bad. But you guys keep putting yourselves in harms way. If you don't remove yourself from the situation something bad to happen. So why should we feel bad.

 

How ridiculous does that sound. I want to punch myself in the teeth just by reading it. Yet you have now twice said in this same thread that the logic involved in that thought process is correct.

You keep restating the same crap and it keeps making you look like an idiot to some of us. That's the problem. If we used your logic on yourself, we would sound ridiculous. Lets tryYou work at or around WTC. By your own admission, it's an area where terrorists love to attack. If you and the rest of the men and women in blue there got hurt or worse due to another terrorist attack of course we would feel bad. But you guys keep putting yourselves in harms way. If you don't remove yourself from the situation something bad to happen. So why should we feel bad. How ridiculous does that sound. I want to punch myself in the teeth just by reading it. Yet you have now twice said in this same thread that the logic involved in that thought process is correct.

The difference is that (most) LEOs go to work in bad environments to help and protect other people, so when a cop gets shot, it elicits an emotional response from me because I believe they were trying to do something good, and I have people I care about who are on the job.When a bodega owner in a crappy area gets shot, I still feel bad, but they were there to make a profit, not help the community, which I understand is necessary for them, but you can open a mini mart anywhere, and I doubt if running a bodega is a "calling" the like of becoming a cop.

The difference is that (most) LEOs go to work in bad environments to help and protect other people, so when a cop gets shot, it elicits an emotional response from me because I believe they were trying to do something good, and I have people I care about who are on the job.When a bodega owner in a crappy area gets shot, I still feel bad, but they were there to make a profit, not help the community, which I understand is necessary for them, but you can open a mini mart anywhere, and I doubt if running a bodega is a "calling" the like of becoming a cop.

 

if you say so.

Problem for me is I don't want a matyr making $100k a year on the tax payer's dime with lifetime retirement benefits after 20 years of work telling me about their sacrifice to keep me safe when they are also enforcing laws against me that actually put me in harms way. For the first 150 years the people of the United States did just fine without thousands of BS laws and hundreds of thousands of tax funded law enforcement officials from all these federal, state, county and local towns law enforcement agencies there to "protect us". I would bet we would do just fine with 1/10th of the laws and 1/5th of the tax feeders. I understand it is a difficult job but I also understand the problem wouldn't be so bad if most citizens had the capacity to eliminate the problem at its source. Before you get all "you're anti-cop" I'll nip that in the ass right now ant tell you it is more like I'm radically pro freedom and liberty. I believe one person's freedoms end when they begin to infringe upon the freedoms of another and that every person has an absolute right to defend their freedom and their rights without question. Unfortunately we have devolved to such an anemic state of freedom in the US today that most people find that concept foreign. Sadly.

The difference is that (most) LEOs go to work in bad environments to help and protect other people, so when a cop gets shot, it elicits an emotional response from me because I believe they were trying to do something good, and I have people I care about who are on the job.When a bodega owner in a crappy area gets shot, I still feel bad, but they were there to make a profit, not help the community, which I understand is necessary for them, but you can open a mini mart anywhere, and I doubt if running a bodega is a "calling" the like of becoming a cop.

 

Lots of assumptions in that paragraph. I know quite a few cops and I don't think any of them would refer to it as a "calling". However, some certainly have a holier-than-thou attitude! lol.

 

I think if a cop has the mentality displayed by BLF then it is questionable whether he is going into these areas to help. Maybe he is going in to do his job and earn a pay check because it doesn't sound like he cares about the individuals in the area. As in any profession or walk of life there are different types of people who become cops. Some want to help, some want a pay check, some are carrying on a family tradition, etc. We all know at least one loser from HS who now thinks he's the man because he has a badge and a gun. Always breaking balls and acting like a tough guy. That type of person didn't become a cop to help others, it was to help himself. I'm surprised anyone would try to defend that type of warped thinking. If your wife/daughter/sister walks through a semi-bad neighborhood at night and gets raped is it her fault because she didn't keep herself out of harms way?

 

Larping - that's funny. I'm certainly glad I had to look that one up.

Again you can question my motives all you want.i know what I do and why I do it and that's good enough for me. Done with this thread.