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Carry Permit

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Does anyone here actually have a NJ concealed carry permit? LEO and retired LEO aside.

Does anyone here actually have a NJ concealed carry permit? LEO and retired LEO aside.

Honestly.....even if someone other than active or retired LEO did, would he/she reveal that fact on this forum?

I met one guy during an indoor shoot at Old Bridge who had one, but he was retired LEO, and then during our orientaiton at CJRPC one guy raised his hand when the President asked if anyone had CCW. There was a hush over the crowd, like royalty was present or something.

No

My sentiments exactly... For if they did , the interrogation that would ensue would be absolutely Epic..... This tread for all practical purposes is now dead.

People who live in NJ just have to accept that it aint happening anytime soon, if you want to carry a gun its simple....move out of state. it pisses me off just as much as the next guy. I know there are organizations fighting for our rights but has anything about your average law biding citizen in NJ able to carry,im not trying to be a debbie downer but its just the reality. only hope is that the national reciprocity act would go into affect and even then I bet NJ would not honor non resident permits still leaving us in the dark. its plain and simple only way you are getting one is if you are very very wealthy or you "know" somoene. Why NJ thinks it is different than the 43 or so other states that do issue carry permits I do not know. until we get some real politicians who care about our rights its game over.

Yes me, im getting one, I'll post pics, maybe, but not for another 6-9 months.

Honestly.....even if someone other than active or retired LEO did, would he/she reveal that fact on this forum?
Why not what's the big deal?My first cousins wife's father is chief of police in Hoboken, I bet if I lived in Hoboken I would have a ccw!

People who live in NJ just have to accept that it aint happening anytime soon...

 

Never would be more accurate

My hands are deadly weapons, firearms only make me more dangerous.

My hands are deadly weapons, firearms only make me more dangerous.

 

TESTIFY! Lmao

My hands are deadly weapons, firearms only make me more dangerous.

 

You a pro boxer? Things change when you go from amatuer to pro. As a pro, legally your hands become weapons. Believe it or not.

You a pro boxer? Things change when you go from amatuer to pro. As a pro, legally your hands become weapons. Believe it or not.

 

Got a cite for that?

Got a cite for that?

 

Nope. But have a good friend who turned pro, found himself in a bar fight, and in turn was sued because his hands were considered weapons.

I personally know of 1 person with a legit NJ CCW..

 

Without to many details, he's a government employee, with high clearance. Not exactly "Average Joe" but he does have it.

I've met one non-leo with Ccw. A town councilman.

Ive met 2- both of whom carry LARGE amounts of cash as part of their daily business.
ya I bet it's a work ccw btw not a full time ccw

Nope. But have a good friend who turned pro, found himself in a bar fight, and in turn was sued because his hands were considered weapons.

 

I heard the same thing about reaching a certain belt rank in martial arts, though I have no evidence to back that up.

How many convicted felons are walking around New Jersey carrying concealed? Compare that to the amount of legal gun owners carrying conceled.

I know one. A retired Secret Service Agent. He still has to apply for permits though.

How many convicted felons are walking around New Jersey carrying concealed? Compare that to the amount of legal gun owners carrying conceled.

 

It sounds like you are trying to apply logic to the argument. Don't do it, it doesn't work, it only serves to confuse a liberal trying to defend their perception of reality and tends to cause them to double down on the stupidity of their solutions in an attempt to solve the problems they created with their previous solutions.

I know one. A retired Secret Service Agent. He still has to apply for permits though.

I do believe that instance would most likely fall under LEO or retired LEO.....No?

Why not what's the big deal?My first cousins wife's father is chief of police in Hoboken, I bet if I lived in Hoboken I would have a ccw!

 

I wouldn't be so sure. Even if your hook agrees with your "need" the judge still needs to approve it.

 

 

Nope. But have a good friend who turned pro, found himself in a bar fight, and in turn was sued because his hands were considered weapons.

 

You can bring up anything you want in a civil suit. Whether it has any bearing will be determined by the judge or jury. If someone assaults you and they have any boxing or martial arts experience I can't see why the plantiff would not bring it up. Criminally, if you knocked someone out you'd be charged the same as Chuck Norris did the same.

 

I know one. A retired Secret Service Agent. He still has to apply for permits though.

 

Are you sure its not the RPO permit he applies for? Seems to me that a retired LEO going for a regular NJ carry permit is making himself jump through all kinds of hoops (police chief, judge, justifiable need, et al) when to get a RPO permit all he has to do is be a retired LEO and apply directly to NJSP. He could also carry under LEOSA without a permit.

 

The only way I see NJ as a shall issue state is the current system being found as an "unreasonable restriction" and/or national reciprocity. The only other way is a veto proof pro 2A state legislature or a pro 2A legislature with a governor who feels the same way.

 

BTW, AFAIK they will not issue carry permits to LEOs as they already have statutory authority already.

My grandfather and a good family friend both were ussed permits while doing atm service for brinks. they have since retired and lost them

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