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So I'm organizing a Rowan First-Shoot

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For those not in the know, The Rowan Republican Club, and NJ2AS are working to get a first-shoot organized for Rowan students at SJSC. So far things are going well, and I'm really excited about it.

 

So far the organization that oversees Republican College organizations has been hands-off, since it's a bit of a touchy subject, but we're going to be the testing ground. If we can do this, it might become a nation-wide thing, with their support. Not to mention, my goal for this is to eventually start a Second Amendment club at Rowan, and have it be an off-shoot of NJ2AS.

 

Granted, stuff is still in the planning phase, but even if the Student Government association poo-poos the idea, we can still move ahead, as a non-organization entity. (Basically just say we're a bunch of students who want to try this out.) Problem with that would be not being able to use some of the Republican Club's funds, but w/e.

 

Anyway, I figured you guys would be interested in this, and I'll post more details as I have time.

 

IF any of you are students, or know students, and we can get this going, encourage them to come out and support this.

 

Thanks

First Shoot organization...in liberal academia...in New Jersey. The only saving grace would be the fact that Rowan is in South Jersey.

 

 

I wish you the best of luck getting this started, hopefully with NJ2AS in your corner you can get this idea off the ground.

Sorry for being kinda stupid, but what exactly is a "first shoot?" What does it entail?

 

C

Sorry for being kinda stupid, but what exactly is a "first shoot?" What does it entail?

 

C

 

It would probably be a hands on introduction to firearms and the community.

 

For a NJ state school, if you have the support i don't see how it could be turned down, having a club sponsor it is really where the help comes in. A state university can't really stop the club from holding events that suit it's interests, and having it off campus makes arranging it easy pie aside from $$. I don't see why it's a touchy subject for the national organization, i could understand the issue being in NJ.

My little sister is finishing pre med in Swarthmore ( lives in Warren Co NJ) and has been wanting me to take her to the range. I'm sure she would participate . I saw your post in the NJ2AS FB page..I'll be following it :)

Definitely a great idea. I am sure that you would be labeled some whacko at my school unfortunately.

For a NJ state school, if you have the support i don't see how it could be turned down, having a club sponsor it is really where the help comes in.

 

You know, it is a state school. If they are taking state money, I don't think that they can pick and choose what clubs to have. There are freedom of speech issues there. I don't see what is so offensive about safe firearms handling.

 

You have a "Students for Sensible Drug Policy" club for Pete's sake... at least shooting a firearm is a lawful activity.

Humm... Maybe you should name yourself "Students for Sensible Gun Control."

 

Of course you need as range day to show how these weapons can be used to kill... never mind how much fun they are to shoot, of course. Just ignore that part.

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Definitely a great idea. I am sure that you would be labeled some whacko at my school unfortunately.

 

Actually, the mood there is far more pro-gun than you'd think. A physics professor of mine overheard me talking about shooting (In reference to studying projectile motion in class.) and told me how he just got a Hi-Power.

 

Most of the other people I know who hear I shoot think it's cool, and are curious to try it. I haven't heard anything negative about shooting yet, the only antis I regularly see are my mother (Supports RKBA, but hates guns), and my friend's mom. It seems to be an issue with the older generation.

 

 

You know, it is a state school. If they are taking state money, I don't think that they can pick and choose what clubs to have. There are freedom of speech issues there. I don't see what is so offensive about safe firearms handling.

 

You have a "Students for Sensible Drug Policy" club for Pete's sake... at least shooting a firearm is a lawful activity.

 

Yes, we do have a drug-advocacy group, one that's very vocal. We also have a Communist organization, and a Socialist organization. SGA's president is actually the former democrat club president, but the Republican club president claims to be "amicable" with him. If he throws any opposition, I'll offer to pay for his seat on the trip--which is saying something considering how cheap/broke I am.

 

NJ2AS has been behind this for a while, and damn are they really chomping at the bit to set it up. I believe first-shoots are the best way to show people the truth behind firearms, and firearm owners.

It seems to be an issue with the older generation.

 

Son, I've been shooting since waaaay before you were even a gleam in your daddy's eye, and I can assure you that it is NOT an "older generation" thing. :rolleyes:

 

Adios,

 

Pizza Bob

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Son, I've been shooting since waaaay before you were even a gleam in your daddy's eye, and I can assure you that it is NOT an "older generation" thing. :rolleyes:

 

Adios,

 

Pizza Bob

 

You're right, I should amend that, it's my parent's generation.

You know, it is a state school. If they are taking state money, I don't think that they can pick and choose what clubs to have. There are freedom of speech issues there. I don't see what is so offensive about safe firearms handling.

 

You have a "Students for Sensible Drug Policy" club for Pete's sake... at least shooting a firearm is a lawful activity.

 

That was exactly my point. Even if they do turn it down you can take further action against the school.

Actually, the mood there is far more pro-gun than you'd think. A physics professor of mine overheard me talking about shooting (In reference to studying projectile motion in class.) and told me how he just got a Hi-Power.

 

Most of the other people I know who hear I shoot think it's cool, and are curious to try it. I haven't heard anything negative about shooting yet, the only antis I regularly see are my mother (Supports RKBA, but hates guns), and my friend's mom. It seems to be an issue with the older generation.

 

 

 

 

Yes, we do have a drug-advocacy group, one that's very vocal. We also have a Communist organization, and a Socialist organization. SGA's president is actually the former democrat club president, but the Republican club president claims to be "amicable" with him. If he throws any opposition, I'll offer to pay for his seat on the trip--which is saying something considering how cheap/broke I am.

 

NJ2AS has been behind this for a while, and damn are they really chomping at the bit to set it up. I believe first-shoots are the best way to show people the truth behind firearms, and firearm owners.

 

I've had a surprising amount of sensible professors, hell, my economics professor openly criticized Obama's economic plan the other night. On the other hand I have had more than my share of the insane rabid liberals... why my advisor thought I should take the women's studies minor option Comp 101 class my first semester I do not know.

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Things are moving smoothly with this so far, and I'm glad to see all the support. Our next step is to get the word around campus, and to hold an interest meeting, so we can get a gauge of how many people, and what experience, if any, they have.

 

Ironically, the only criticism I've received regarding the event has more to do with it being affiliated with the Rowan Republicans, none towards the actual shooting. I'm hoping that people who are otherwise interested will be able to put politics aside and just come out for a fun day.

Been following this for a while and I give you a lot of credit. This is an awesome idea to hopefully educate people about firearms and shooting. I hope it works and good luck.

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Well, for those who are interested, we fliered the campus regarding an interest meeting next Wenesday. Apparently it was supposed to be done by Tuesday, and again the Rowan Republicans didn't give me any information that they even had fliers, or an interest meeting scheduled. I'm a little pissed about this since I don't think it will be enough time to get a decent amount of people out there, but oh well, I'll just schedule another one, later on.

 

Ironically, everyone in the Rowan Republicans **** about having too much on their plate, but won't even inform me about decisions they make about my event. What a PIA. Oh well, at least things are moving ahead.

Kaiser,

 

My son graduated Rowan's Mechanical Engineering Dept. in May of last year. I used to pick him up and we'd go to Bob's to shoot my hand guns, and then out for lunch before I returned him to campus. Really great Father and Son times! Lots of his local friends there were deer hunters, etc., so "shooting sports" aren't as foreign as you'd expect!

 

Many years ago Rutgers used to have a rifle team! It might surprise some of you kids to learn this?

 

I would like to volunteer to help you in any way I can! I'm a NRA Cerified Instructor and RSO and will donate my time to come and help/run your firing line. Bob from Bob's might be able/interested in helping you folks as well! So let me know what I can do to help, even if it's just to chat on the phone about how to get organized.

 

There are plenty of shooters who would LOVE to see this get off of the ground, and I know some who would donate money, bullets, targets, what-ever it takes to make it HAPPEN!

 

We should probably get together on the phone or in-person so I can bounce some funding ideas off of you. And your First Shots Program can get help (and loaner guns) from the NSSF!

 

Let's MAKE THIS HAPPEN! TOGETHER!!

 

Dave Rosenthal,

Competition Shooter w/ Rifle, Pistol, Shotgun, Black Powder

NRA Life Member

NRA Certified Instructor

NRA Range Safety Officer (RSO)

First Shoot organization...in liberal academia...in New Jersey. The only saving grace would be the fact that Rowan is in South Jersey.

 

I know it's cool to talk about "liberal academia", but shooting sports have had a place in even the most liberal arts schools for many, many years. Drew University, a fancy liberal arts school in Madison, had a shooting team for a number of years in the 1980's until the organizers graduated and it petered out. We shot in the basement of Hoyt Dormitory. Princeton also had a shooting team for many years (and still might, I dunno but google could tell us).

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Kaiser,

 

My son graduated Rowan's Mechanical Engineering Dept. in May of last year. I used to pick him up and we'd go to Bob's to shoot my hand guns, and then out for lunch before I returned him to campus. Really great Father and Son times! Lots of his local friends there were deer hunters, etc., so "shooting sports" aren't as foreign as you'd expect!

 

Many years ago Rutgers used to have a rifle team! It might surprise some of you kids to learn this?

 

I would like to volunteer to help you in any way I can! I'm a NRA Cerified Instructor and RSO and will donate my time to come and help/run your firing line. Bob from Bob's might be able/interested in helping you folks as well! So let me know what I can do to help, even if it's just to chat on the phone about how to get organized.

 

There are plenty of shooters who would LOVE to see this get off of the ground, and I know some who would donate money, bullets, targets, what-ever it takes to make it HAPPEN!

 

We should probably get together on the phone or in-person so I can bounce some funding ideas off of you. And your First Shots Program can get help (and loaner guns) from the NSSF!

 

Let's MAKE THIS HAPPEN! TOGETHER!!

 

Dave Rosenthal,

Competition Shooter w/ Rifle, Pistol, Shotgun, Black Powder

NRA Life Member

NRA Certified Instructor

NRA Range Safety Officer (RSO)

 

We actually have most of the stuff straightened out, we will be holding it at SJSC, so that way we can include both rifles and handguns. We've even had a NJ2AS member volunteer to donate ammo and instruct. We're looking for more instructors though, depending on the turn out, which, I'm trying to get to be as big as possible, so get in contact with me.

 

I'm actually in Bob's quite a bit, not having money, I worry I'm a bit of a pain, since I just window-shop and lament how I can't afford either an 870, mini-30, or winchester 94, but I have taken girls there to shoot my .22 rifle before.

 

But yeah, part of it is that I'm not sure the students at rowan are going to hear about it, I have to think of better ways to get the word out.

Possibly a blurb on the school's radio station?? An ad in the school newspaper taken-out by the sponsoring school club?

 

And what is the date?? I need to check, especially if it's close to Turkey Day, since the Wife has plans for me......

 

Dave

I actually live here on campus, and haven't seen anything about this. I would love to attend! My only question is.. would we need a membership to SJSC to attend?

My best friend goes to Rowan right now. Hell I'll trip down there to attend with him if he goes!

Mike

I actually live here on campus, and haven't seen anything about this. I would love to attend! My only question is.. would we need a membership to SJSC to attend?

 

You shouldn't need it. This is a thing for new shooters/etc. so they're trying to get new people involved who don't have any experience/memberships/etc.

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https://www.facebook.com/groups/129640627184187/

 

This is a facebook group I've set up for the event.

 

No, you don't need a SJSC membership, one of the folks helping set it up is the range master there, so we're all good. It might be a few bucks for the event, but it should be fairly cheap.

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http://www.sjerseyshootingclub.com has a $10 guest fee.

Ammo is available in the shop.

Targets too

 

Im a member there and NRA Instructor and I'm looking forward to seeing you out there

 

I'm working with Mr. Barton, so far we have ammo being donated, and I'm not sure if there's a fee or not.

I have told my brother about this. While he is interested, I don't think he would be able to attend any of the meetings due to his work/school schedule.

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I have told my brother about this. While he is interested, I don't think he would be able to attend any of the meetings due to his work/school schedule.

 

Not a problem, if he has a facebook page, I set up a facebook group for the event simply because I figured there would be those who commute, or otherwise can't attend the meetings.

 

https://www.facebook.com/groups/129640627184187/

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