As some of you know from the Shotgun Shootout, I broke one clay with a borrowed Ithaca, zero clays with my 590, and one clay with a hammer.

 

I want a semi auto for our next event for several reasons. What would you suggest? Money, 2000 max.

For sheer fun - Saiga 12

 

For breaking more clays - Remington 1100 Trap

 

For a little more versatility (hunting, clays, blowing stuff up) - Remington 11-87 (newer ans supposedly more reliable design than 1100, although my 1100 worked great)

Beretta Urika 2 Sporting

Specs:

• ACTION: Semiautomatic gas operation with self-compensating exhaust valve
  
• GAUGE: 12, 20
  
• BARREL: 30" Preferred Length
  
• CHAMBER: 3"
  
• WOOD FINISH: X-tra Grain or Oil
  
• STOCK/FORE-END: Selected walnut, checkered
  
• STOCK DROP – COMB: 1.35”
  
• STOCK DROP – HEEL: 2.36”
  
• BUTT PLATE: Full black rubber
  
• SAFETY: Cross-bolt, reversible for left handed shooters
  
• TRIGGER: Gold
  
• FORE-END: Slim
  
• RIB TYPE: Flat, 3/8" x 5/16"
  
• SIGHT: White front bead, steel mid-bead
  
• WEIGHT: 7.8 lbs (12 guage), 6.9 lbs (20 guage)
  
• There are many suppliers of aftermarket and custom parts for the 391
  
• Used up to 1,000 New up to 2,000.
  

Beretta has a really nice fairly new gun out, Explora Supreme or something like that. It is ugly, only available in black or camo, but what a soft-shooting gun! My friend has one and I do really well with it. I believe he got it from Cabellas for $1500 or so. It is a semi auto with a good recoil reduction system built into the stock, works well.

 

Now, if you just want a good used gun the Remmington 1100 works just fine. I have one I may part with if the price is right. I only use my O/U, the other shot guns just sit in the safe.

Socom let me shoot his Benelli M2 Field and I fell in love with the thing. I'm a beginner and I hit just about every clay I shot at with it. Granted, I only took about 6 shots with it.

 

It's well below your price point. When I get about $1200 in fun money stacked up I'm buying one.

I shoot clays with an M500 sometimes. IMHO, if you take the money you would spend on a new gun, and use it to buy shells to practice with your 590, you will get better than you ever will with a semi-auto.

For clays get the Beretta 391 Urika 2 Sporting it is the best all round clay semi auto

will also cost closer to $1k than 2k

 

http://www.berettausa.com/products/al391-urika-2-sporting-x-tra-grain/

 

a couple of reasons

 

1. it is a beretta (enough said)

2. it is the most popular clays semi auto

3. it is very soft shooting and easy to use

4. parts are very readily available

5. tands shell catcher is available for when you shoot trap to catch the shell and thereby not bother the guy next to you

6. it is a great gun, I have one for over a year and love it

7. you will never regret it

 

you could go with the A400 (more money, not any better)

you could get the kickoff recoil reduction (OK but not really needed)

For $2000 can get you pretty much anything... you could get a field barrel (26" or 28" with a vent rib) for the 590 and some chokes for a few hundred total. I shot the M2 and it was pretty sweet - also within your price range. If you've got funds also pick up a few thousand rounds; save some money in the long run.

Thanks guys.

not a semi but i shoot clays with my remmy 870 cheap and fun

I've got a Remington 11-87 I could be convinced to part with...

I just talked with Mossberg, 590 only has 18.5 or the 20", they say it's not compatible with any 500 series barrels.

I just talked with Mossberg, 590 only has 18.5 or the 20", they say it's not compatible with any 500 series barrels.

 

Apologies, didn't realize that. I had a 500 field for a while, and because everyone makes a thousand aftermarket parts for the 500, I just assumed somebody made a field barrel for the 590.

 

Still, you got lots of options - have fun picking out something.

In the same boat after the trap shoot, looking for a semi auto

 

This thread provided a lot of information. Thanks all.

 

My gut was with saiga 12 but i dont like a 12ga ak , 410 maybe , but not 12ga

 

 

Look at the benelli montefeltro 12 gauge with 26 in barrel.. i use these for upland bird and skeet shooting..or one of their clay or skeet shooting guns..

I have,

10860 12 ga 28 in

10863 12 ga 26 in left hand

10866 20 ga 26 in

 

http://www.benellius...montefeltro.php

 

maybe we can have another shotgun shootout in the near future and you can try one out...

You can't go wrong with a b named gun. Bennelli, beretta and browning. For clays, I use an o/u. I have a beretta 391 urika that didn't fit me well.

 

You need to shoulder these gun to see what you like. For trap, I'd get a 32" barrel. You could also use this for clays.

Somcom16's benelli M2 was a beast on Saturday. It would be my choice for you Alex.

I would get a benelli M2 w/ the comfort tech stock. Love mine and would buy another one.

My Remington 1100 is fantastic. And it's not expensive. For more money and I guess a slightly better gun, you could go with a Beretta. Maybe the 391 Urika 2. But as others have said, how a gun fits you is a critical component.

if you are only going to shoot clays the sport would be the one..

 

http://www.benelliusa.com/shotguns/benelli-supersport-and-sport-2.php

Buy the shotgun that fits you. Go to your favorite shop and shoulder all the guns within your price range. Pick the one that feels best to you.

Any of the models mentioned will suit your needs. Some better than others. But gun fit is the most important. You shouldn't conform yourself to the gun, it should feel like an extension of your hands and point comfortably and hit where your eyes are looking. Some of the newer models offer the ability to add shims to the buttstock to alter cast (on/off) or change the heel height. I would suggest you don't spend $1,500 to $2,000 on a shotgun that you might regret owning after shooting it unless you are sure it's the gun for you.

 

There is no "one gun fits all" for the various shooting disciplines. Some are better than others at certain games. This is a good read on various shotguns with some additional links: http://www.shotgunli...sportsguns.html

 

"Pick the one that feels best to you."

Buy the shotgun that fits you. Go to your favorite shop and shoulder all the guns within your price range. Pick the one that feels best to you.

 

+100. you CANNOT buy a shotgun for clays or hunting without it feeling right in your hands. pick the one that comes up to your shoulder the most comfortable.

 

and damjam- i would really not suggest a .410 for someone just starting shooting clays. it is often though of as a kids gun because it has less recoil, but in theory you have about 1/4 the pellets coming out making it way harder to hit with it. if you are worried about recoil i would suggest you start with a 20 ga. as it is somewhere in between.

 

 

+100. you CANNOT buy a shotgun for clays or hunting without it feeling right in your hands. pick the one that comes up to your shoulder the most comfortable.

 

and damjam- i would really not suggest a .410 for someone just starting shooting clays. it is often though of as a kids gun because it has less recoil, but in theory you have about 1/4 the pellets coming out making it way harder to hit with it. if you are worried about recoil i would suggest you start with a 20 ga. as it is somewhere in between.

 

Thanks,

I may consider a 20ga instead of the 12ga. Shooting the semi took out the manual work and allowed me to concentrate more on target. The element of recoil was also numbed by the limbsaver on Holeshot s Browning.

I just like the saiga 410 , that s why i mentoned it. Wont be buying it though.

Trap is a 12ga game. You need the load to get out far enough. In Skeet and sporting clays, you can shoot 20ga.

 

I suggest you shoot a o/u and see if you like it. To me there is no better gun for shooting clays of any kind bi have a Remington 1100 in 20 ga hour welcome to try out.

+100. you CANNOT buy a shotgun for clays or hunting without it feeling right in your hands.

 

Unless you're Recessed Filter.

+2 on the Benelli Montefeltro. Dicks has them on sale now for $999 and I think you can get an extra %10 off with a credit card.

Very easy to take down and clean. I have an M2 and a Montefeltro and would probably pick the Montefeltro if it was just for clays..

 

For what it is worth you can get a nice O/U for 2k. (Beretta 686). Go with what fits, the B's fit me very nice just from the rack.

 

I'm thinking of going to Lehigh Valley Sporting clays on Thursday and could bring both....

Was at dicks in Woodbridge the other day. They had beretta onyx 12 ga, had a browning citori, beretta silver pigeon 20ga, a few beretta x400 or a400 and benelli semi's.

 

They had some nice shotguns.

 

 

Unless you're Recessed Filter.

 

no everything just feels good in his hands

Thinking about this again, if it were my 2k and I did not want an O/U. I would look at Benelli, Beretta, Rem 1100 trap, CZ 712 ALS or Target AND get the Saiga 12 (with poly choke and MD arms gas plug)