Good thing they don't have to run everything by you or every case would be stuck in limbo until the time was perfect and acceptable according to your counterterrorism expertise

 

Quite contrary, actually. I would do a far better job. I would NEVER let somebody set bottle rockets and propane tanks on fire in their trunk. I would be tough on terrorism. I would go all the way down to NYC grade schools to recruit terrorists and give them fake bombs.

 

Where were you guys and where was your Martial Law during the Cold War? When millions of American lives were actually at stake, for real, every day. And real, professional, agents of the enemy were all over our country attempting to set up our demise?

 

I shudder to think what you people would do to us if there was a real national security threat.

Seriously.......

 

Both of you..... take it to PM's and out of this thread.........

There is nothing wrong with questioning the methodology employed by law enforcement here. How far was he "pushed" by the FBI? How many real al-Qaeda contacts did he have? If he was actively pursuing explosives and the FBI nabbed him, good. If he was pushed and prodded along, they created a criminal. I have a feeling we will never know the real truth.

 

And you can add me to the people who will always question situations like this. More of these busts leads to more money spent on surveillance which leads to less freedom for law abiding citizens.

I'm not questioning their methodology at all. I have no problem with them tricking some wannabe into a chargeable offense.

 

I'm questioning the cultural motivation of their mission and their public relations attention whoring for this silly, trivial garbage. They are obviously grabbing at straws to justify the funding and laws of this totalitarian police state.

I have no problem with them tricking some wannabe into a chargeable offense.

I do. That's the definition of entrapment. Like I said above, we will never know the truth as to what really happened. Maybe it was a good clean bust, maybe it wasn't.

 

They are obviously grabbing at straws to justify the funding and laws of this totalitarian police state.

On this, we agree.

I do. That's the definition of entrapment. Like I said above, we will never know the truth as to what really happened. Maybe it was a good clean bust, maybe it wasn't.

 

Tricking or inducing someone to commit a crime is entrapment. If all the actions this guy took were because he was egged on by the FBI then it was entrapment. I doubt this was the case because the US Attorney's office would have had the FBI drop it.

 

If he was predisposed to commit the crime its not entrapment. If he mentioned to someone that he wanted to bomb the Federal Reserve but he needed the explosives and other materiel. If this someone went to the FBI who then supplied the things he needed it is not entrapment.

 

None of us are privy to what actually transpired here and we may never be.

 

The US Attorney closely monitors sting operations to prevent an entrapment defense. There are times of course when the defendant puts up an entrapment defense and there are 12 bumpkins on the jury who let him off.

 

 

 

Another craphead extremist off the street...bottom line..good work boys..money well spent..better than midnight basketball or ethanol study groups..