If she needs to travel to sell them she does need an FID.

 

Nope. FPID is firearms PURCHASER id. As long as you are traveling to a legal place (range, gunshop, gunsmith etc) FID does ZIP for you.

Only helps if you drive around with a unloaded long gun in the trunk

FPID is firearms PURCHASERS identification card. It's needed to purchase, not to have or to travel with.

 

In my opinion she screwed herself by trying to get one, because she wasn't considered ineligible to own firearms until she applied and was denied.

crazy chicks are hot

ray, trust me...this one aint' hot

but seriously, like anyone else, agree or diagree with their politics, don't they have the same rights as we do?

she should have been issued her FID

 

she should have been issued her FID

 

She's proven to be an unruly citizen, hampering police, Conservation Officers and skirting laws on a technicality(prove I was feeding bears, I was feeding racoons<--her actual defense in court for her bear feeding).

 

She has guns already. She can sell them without a FPID. This was probably a stunt in some fashion.

 

I also note that her application took 3 months. While others may have had good luck, Vernon sits on apps for 90 days before they process them. They send out refs immediately then park it in the "hold" category. It's somewhat infuriating.

 

 

She's proven to be an unruly citizen, hampering police, Conservation Officers and skirting laws on a technicality(prove I was feeding bears, I was feeding racoons<--her actual defense in court for her bear feeding).

 

She has guns already. She can sell them without a FPID. This was probably a stunt in some fashion.

 

I also note that her application took 3 months. While others may have had good luck, Vernon sits on apps for 90 days before they process them. They send out refs immediately then park it in the "hold" category. It's somewhat infuriating.

 

Even if this is 100% true, why should she not be issued her FPID?

but seriously, like anyone else, agree or diagree with their politics, don't they have the same rights as we do?

 

According to liberals, NO. Aint it funny that this is the difference between us and them?

She's proven to be an unruly citizen, hampering police, Conservation Officers and skirting laws on a technicality(prove I was feeding bears, I was feeding racoons<--her actual defense in court for her bear feeding).

 

She has guns already. She can sell them without a FPID. This was probably a stunt in some fashion.

 

I also note that her application took 3 months. While others may have had good luck, Vernon sits on apps for 90 days before they process them. They send out refs immediately then park it in the "hold" category. It's somewhat infuriating.

 

An "unruly citizen" is still a citizen.

An "unruly citizen" is still a citizen.

 

I'm all for scrapping the FID process entirely, relying on NICS. Right now, however, you have to not be a problem in your town and it's best the Chief doesn't know who you are before you app comes across his desk. If we're going to have this punitive, burdensome process in place, I'm all for punishing nutbags like this one. Liberals love this system, she's a big liberal, she should just accept it.

I'm all for scrapping the FID process entirely, relying on NICS. Right now, however, you have to not be a problem in your town and it's best the Chief doesn't know who you are before you app comes across his desk. If we're going to have this punitive, burdensome process in place, I'm all for punishing nutbags like this one. Liberals love this system, she's a big liberal, she should just accept it.

 

I think we are all for scrapping the fPid process. But my point was (from my impression of the article) the only reason she was denied is because she was a burden to the police. And the chief just didn't want to deal with her and gave the most generic reason for denial.

 

The fact that she is a hippy liberal scumbag means her and I will never be friends. But unless she is a risk to herself or others, she should be allowed her FPID card.

I don't see in the exemptions that she can go to an FFL unless they repair or my kitchen table. Maybe it's the way i'm reading the transportation laws but I could see a big problem if she got caught by the wrong town.

 

Kehoe's firearms purchaser ID card application was denied by Chief Roy Wherry on June 5, three months after she submitted her paperwork and six months after she was cited for allegedly feeding bears outside her Vernon home. According to this she is past the 180 days for the inheritance. Shouldn't the firearms already be taken?

I think we are all for scrapping the fPid process. But my point was (from my impression of the article) the only reason she was denied is because she was a burden to the police. And the chief just didn't want to deal with her and gave the most generic reason for denial.

 

The fact that she is a hippy liberal scumbag means her and I will never be friends. But unless she is a risk to herself or others, she should be allowed her FPID card.

 

You have to understand, the woman is NUTS. She isn't just someone I disagree with. She's unpredictable because she's NUTS. She probably wants to buy an AR and threaten hunters when bear season comes along. She's not a normal person. We always wonder why no one listens when people tell you there's something not right about someone. Well, there's something not right about this one.

 

 

According to liberals, NO. Aint it funny that this is the difference between us and them?

 

Edit to add - liberals and Malsua.

I don't see in the exemptions that she can go to an FFL unless they repair or my kitchen table. Maybe it's the way i'm reading the transportation laws but I could see a big problem if she got caught by the wrong town.

 

Kehoe's firearms purchaser ID card application was denied by Chief Roy Wherry on June 5, three months after she submitted her paperwork and six months after she was cited for allegedly feeding bears outside her Vernon home. According to this she is past the 180 days for the inheritance. Shouldn't the firearms already be taken?

 

Nope. They are legally hers if she isn't a prohibited person

 

 

You have to understand, the woman is NUTS. She isn't just someone I disagree with. She's unpredictable because she's NUTS. She probably wants to buy an AR and threaten hunters when bear season comes along. She's not a normal person. We always wonder why no one listens when people tell you there's something not right about someone. Well, there's something not right about this one.

 

Then the cops should have her committed. A neighbor saying she is nuts is not enough of a reason to deny her rights. I'm sure she probably shouldn't have a gun but that doesn't mean that I get to make that choice. What's to stop someone from saying "that guy has 2000rds and 5 guns. He thinks the world is going to end. He is nuts. He shouldn't own guns" to take away your rights. Unless a doctor can agree that "legally" you are nuts then there is nothing you can do

 

The chief is probably playing the cya game. Deny her. Then she wins the appeal but when something happens he is free and clear from scrutiny

 

 

Then the cops should have her committed. A neighbor saying she is nuts is not enough of a reason to deny her rights. I'm sure she probably shouldn't have a gun but that doesn't mean that I get to make that choice. What's to stop someone from saying "that guy has 2000rds and 5 guns. He thinks the world is going to end. He is nuts. He shouldn't own guns" to take away your rights. Unless a doctor can agree that "legally" you are nuts then there is nothing you can do

 

The chief is probably playing the cya game. Deny her. Then she wins the appeal but when something happens he is free and clear from scrutiny

 

Where is that +1 button when you need it. People are really starting to get it. Thank you for stating the truth, what is not always popular, even around here some times.

You have to understand, the woman is NUTS. She isn't just someone I disagree with. She's unpredictable because she's NUTS. She probably wants to buy an AR and threaten hunters when bear season comes along. She's not a normal person. We always wonder why no one listens when people tell you there's something not right about someone. Well, there's something not right about this one.

 

And IF that day comes she will be removed of her firearms and fpid card. And jailed or committed.

 

You cannot deny a person their rights because they have the possibility of doing bad things. That is the brady campaigns schtick.

Then I guess I stand corrected. And I still don't believe that she should be denied unless the state says she is a crazy hot mess

If she's nuts enough to be denied a FPID, then she must be too nuts to be entrusted with a drivers license, the legal entitlement to direct what is essentially a large steel battering ram at high velocities in close proximity to vulnerable pedestrians. Certainly she should be barred from ownership of matches, gasoline, etc. as well.

 

If, on the other hand, she can be trusted with command of a car on a public road, and she has not run her enemies down with her vehicle, then why should she be denied a FPID? Both cars and guns can be deadly in an instant if one is disposed to harm others, both have legitimate, essential uses, and both rely upon the personal morality of the operator to determine whether the use be beneficial or detrimental to others.

 

If you do not support her right to a FPID, you support and feed the arguments against you yourself having a FPID.

 

She needs to hire a good lawyer immediately and contest this.

Sounds like she is getting ready to arm bears...

If someone is truly nuts, in the eyes of numerous people, they should not have it. Point blank. Who wants to pay for a Dr.?

 

Its one thing if it is a neighbor or two, but if she has a record (1) and there is a risk (2), er on the side of caution. If she had no history and just a bad reference, it would be a different story, but when there is more evidence suggesting she is nuts than not... better believe I am not for it.

 

Would she pass a nics check?

 

The key difference between a gun and a car.... a car, if it is a bad accident you are likely to get hurt and not likely to run away. With a gun, different story.

 

Too many fries short of a happy meal to pass.

If someone is truly nuts, in the eyes of numerous people, they should not have it. Point blank. Who wants to pay for a Dr.?

 

Its one thing if it is a neighbor or two, but if she has a record (1) and there is a risk (2), er on the side of caution. If she had no history and just a bad reference, it would be a different story, but when there is more evidence suggesting she is nuts than not... better believe I am not for it.

 

Would she pass a nics check?

 

The key difference between a gun and a car.... a car, if it is a bad accident you are likely to get hurt and not likely to run away. With a gun, different story.

 

Too many fries short of a happy meal to pass.

 

There you have it. Maxim and a NICS check are the deciders of who are worthy of their Constitutional Rights and God given Rights to defend themselves.

 

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If someone is truly nuts, in the eyes of numerous people, they should not have it. Point blank. Who wants to pay for a Dr.?

 

Its one thing if it is a neighbor or two, but if she has a record (1) and there is a risk (2), er on the side of caution. If she had no history and just a bad reference, it would be a different story, but when there is more evidence suggesting she is nuts than not... better believe I am not for it.

 

Would she pass a nics check?

 

The key difference between a gun and a car.... a car, if it is a bad accident you are likely to get hurt and not likely to run away. With a gun, different story.

 

Too many fries short of a happy meal to pass.

 

Define "nuts" and having a record

 

Is "nuts" wanting to feed bears and not kill them

 

Is "nuts" Being pro-life? That might make you likely to shoot up an abortion clinic.

 

Is "nuts" being a gun nut? Might have grand ideas to overthrow the government.

 

Is "nuts" being ........?

 

Fill in the blank

 

I think they are pretty clear on what type of record is required to lose your rights. Seems she doesn't have that type of record

Based on this video she made, Susan just might be the bravest woman in the world. (okay, sarcasm off now.)

 

Dumb maybe. But still don't see how that was more or less crazy than skydiving, motorcycle riding, sword swallowing, unprotected sex, etc. pretty much shows she loves Animals and is willing to put her own ass on the line to try to stop people from killing them. Not that I agree with her. But not what I would call "crazy" in the same way as that guy that shot up the batman movie seems to be

Dumb maybe. But still don't see how that was more or less crazy than skydiving, motorcycle riding, sword swallowing, unprotected sex, etc. pretty much shows she loves Animals and is willing to put her own ass on the line to try to stop people from killing them. Not that I agree with her. But not what I would call "crazy" in the same way as that guy that shot up the batman movie seems to be

My point exactly. She probably thinks we are all nuts bc we would shoot the bear in the right circumstances. Please don't take this statement and turn this into a political debate but its the best thing that I can think of that had a lot of people saying I'm nuts and stupid. I'm voting romney. Every Obama supporter calls me I'm crazy and stupid and not informed. Does that sound different from what you guys are saying about this woman's 2a's right? You start denying things bc a group of people gang up it starts to head down a dangerous road.

 

 

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Dumb maybe. But still don't see how that was more or less crazy than skydiving, motorcycle riding, sword swallowing, unprotected sex, etc. pretty much shows she loves Animals and is willing to put her own ass on the line to try to stop people from killing them. Not that I agree with her. But not what I would call "crazy" in the same way as that guy that shot up the batman movie seems to be

 

I understand your point, and while the pastimes you've cited may be crazy, they are socially acceptable. America is a nation of risk takers, fueled by Red Bull.

 

What Susan does in many cases are against the law per Fish & Wildlife guidelines in New Jersey. You can't interfere with wildlife biologists, you can't tamper with bear traps, you can't harass hunters, and you can't feed the bears.

 

This is New Jersey, and the law allows the Chief of the issuing department discretionary powers. If she doesn't like the decision, she can go to court and fight it. She's been there enough times in the past so I'm sure she'll feel right at home.

 

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http://www.nj.com/ne...ctivist_is.html

 

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It's also illegal to speed, steal, rape, not pay state tax on items bought online, download copyrighted music and tons of other things. Some of those things end up with you losing your 2a rights. Others don't. Seems she hasn't gotten arrested and charged for one of those crimes that would make this post a non event. Kinda crazy how you see people all for the chief to use discretion when now ccw is denied the same way

I love seeing threads like this. All the goody two shoes bashing some woman and thinking she should be denied her constitutional rights because she's a wacky environmentalist or "nut" as they seem to think. That she shouldn't own guns because of what they "might" do with them. That's the line of thinking you guys wanna have? OK then, well since anyone can lose their job and go broke, and that makes people more inclined to go rob someone, then we should deny gun permits to anyone.

 

Anyway, next time one of you is crying about your permit taking too long or being denied because you smoked a joint when you were 16, I'm just going to laugh. To think that you call yourself 2nd amendment supporters is almost funny.

I agree that she should not be denied a FID, however being in the same neighborhood and knowing her unstable ways, I have no choice but to feel some apprehension about this woman owning guns. She has not, to my knowledge, done anything that should prohibit her from a FID; the prerequisites are pretty clear. But I certainly will not sleep any better at night. The law applies to everyone, and by law she should get her FID, no matter what I think.