your chances of surviviing from a robbery at gunpoint is probably better if you cooperate. some crazies will kill you just for a donut. don't give them an excuse challenging their ego. go google FBI & law enforcement crime statistics. bad guys want $$$ & if you get in the way, you are just a casualty of the process.

 

I couldn't find any FBI data as to what percentage of robbery victims are armed and what affect that may have had on any resultant injury or death. Since most people don't carry a firearm, I would have to assume that the FBI statistics represent victims who for the most part are not armed and therefore are told to cooperate for their own safety (there is little else they can do if they are not armed.) You may say my chances of surviving are better if I cooperate, but it's my life and I'd rather not take a chance that I may meet one of those "crazies" (many don't need an excuse). Having a firearm doesn't mean I have to use it, but if all else fails at least I have an option. Anyway that's how I feel about it. No offense.

your chances of surviviing from a robbery at gunpoint is probably better if you cooperate. some crazies will kill you just for a donut. don't give them an excuse challenging their ego. go google FBI & law enforcement crime statistics. bad guys want $$$ & if you get in the way, you are just a casualty of the process.

 

Hey, if you want to leave your life in the hands of a criminal, knock yourself out. Like I said, that is mind boggling to me.

My bad advanced auto is 3 blocks not autozone I'm goood

Back in 2006, my wife and I were living in Jersey City. The Dixon Deli on Varick St was around the corner. The woman who runs is it this Cuban lady in her early 40s. Very attractive. Very nice. My wife was walking the dog one night and two guys came running around the corner and down our street in a big hurry. They had just knocked over the deli and robbed the store. She didn't have a gun to defend herself and so cooperated. One of the men told her to go into the back room of the store. She refused and he started to drag her into the back. She knew that if he got her in the back, he was likely going to rape her and probably kill her. She fought back with every ounce of strength she had to try and stop him. So, for her trouble...he pistol whipped her into unconsciousness.

 

She was fortunate that's all he did because they realized they had wasted a lot of time and took off running, passing my wife on the street in their getaway.

 

The difference between living and dying was completely out of her hands and placed in theirs. If I were the manager of a storefront, I would ALWAYS have a firearm available to me. If the law allowed it, I would allow a properly licenses manager to have the same access. Not to protect the merchandise, but to defend their lives and act as an equalizer. So, a petite, cute 40 year old woman doesn't have to get pistol whipped by some scumbag because he outweighs her by 70 pounds.

NEWS FLASH: Multi-Million Dollar National Corporation cares about its money, and not its employees.

 

Shop local, buy local, frequent local business whenever possible.

 

And for the love of god, quit babbling about keeping tax cuts for the 1%. They'd rather see you murdered in a bathroom before they risk their insurance policy costing more money.

 

Until then, get fired for trying to save someone's life.

If you decided to stop spending our hard-earned money at all the anti-gun businesses in this country, you'd be spending a lot of money in Cabela's and Bass Pro Shops. And that's about it

I plan to write a letter and never use autozone again. This is despicable

 

Then don't plan to shop at ANY major retailer, or restaurant since pretty much every corporation im aware of has a similar "No Weapons" policy

I just flamed AutoZone on their comments page.

 

I also found this story from the HufPo with a video:

 

Devin McClean, AutoZone Employee, Fired After Stopping Robber With His Own Personal Weapon (VIDEO)

 

This page also mentioned this FaceBook group "Boycott Autozone in support of Devin Mclean"

Sicktating ... but not surprising at all.

 

 

And for the love of god, quit babbling about keeping tax cuts for the 1%. They'd rather see you murdered in a bathroom before they risk their insurance policy costing more money.

 

 

What's that got to do with this subject?

Do you really believe that raising taxes on the wealthiest Americans will only affect them? LOL!

Thank god the outcome was a positive one. On a flip of a coin, it could've gone bad with 2 deceased employees. Get the drift?

 

Yeah always cooperate like the pharmacist that cooperated on Long Island a few years ago. Oh wait. He was murdered along with at least 2 other people in the Pharmacy. Nevermind.

 

There is your flip side. Criminals incur deflated ballz syndrome when a good guy has a gun too. If you don't want to be able to protect yourself at least have the decency to get out of the way so the bad guy can't use you as a shield. Asshat.

I couldn't find any FBI data as to what percentage of robbery victims are armed and what affect that may have had on any resultant injury or death. Since most people don't carry a firearm, I would have to assume that the FBI statistics represent victims who for the most part are not armed and therefore are told to cooperate for their own safety (there is little else they can do if they are not armed.) You may say my chances of surviving are better if I cooperate, but it's my life and I'd rather not take a chance that I may meet one of those "crazies" (many don't need an excuse). Having a firearm doesn't mean I have to use it, but if all else fails at least I have an option. Anyway that's how I feel about it. No offense.

Agreed. As long as you don't make life & death decisions on other people's behalf. If you are well trained, street smart, fit & athletic your chances are probably better than the average person.

Hey, if you want to leave your life in the hands of a criminal, knock yourself out. Like I said, that is mind boggling to me.

It's your right to resist & take a bullet over $5 in your wallet at gunpoint if your ego is that large.

Listen if the bad guy already has the upper hand from pointing a gun at you, he can pull the trigger at any time.

So would you like him to take your $5 from your body after he shoots you or would you like to hand it over to him so he can go on his merry way?

There's a difference in defending your life as a last resort & defending $5.

Back in 2006, my wife and I were living in Jersey City. The Dixon Deli on Varick St was around the corner. The woman who runs is it this Cuban lady in her early 40s. Very attractive. Very nice. My wife was walking the dog one night and two guys came running around the corner and down our street in a big hurry. They had just knocked over the deli and robbed the store. She didn't have a gun to defend herself and so cooperated. One of the men told her to go into the back room of the store. She refused and he started to drag her into the back. She knew that if he got her in the back, he was likely going to rape her and probably kill her. She fought back with every ounce of strength she had to try and stop him. So, for her trouble...he pistol whipped her into unconsciousness.

This is a very good example on reading situations. Remain calm, cooperate until the situation escalates. You need to figure what they want & plan to escape and/or talk them down. The most important weapon you have is your brain.

You do know you can use multiple quotes in 1 post right?

Yeah always cooperate like the pharmacist that cooperated on Long Island a few years ago. Oh wait. He was murdered along with at least 2 other people in the Pharmacy. Nevermind.

 

There is your flip side. Criminals incur deflated ballz syndrome when a good guy has a gun too. If you don't want to be able to protect yourself at least have the decency to get out of the way so the bad guy can't use you as a shield. Asshat.

Your tragic example highlights how bad things can go but it is not statistically valid for most outcomes. Let's insult each other until we turn blue, right?

This is a very good example on reading situations. Remain calm, cooperate until the situation escalates. You need to figure what they want & plan to escape and/or talk them down. The most important weapon you have is your brain.

 

You can still do this and have an equalizer. She didn't survive this encounter because she remained calm and used her brain. She was lucky. Being beaten with the butt of a pistol can go from unconscious to coma to DEAD pretty easy. Regardless, it should be her CHOICE whether to have access to a firearm in this situation.

It's your right to resist & take a bullet over $5 in your wallet at gunpoint if your ego is that large.

Listen if the bad guy already has the upper hand from pointing a gun at you, he can pull the trigger at any time.

So would you like him to take your $5 from your body after he shoots you or would you like to hand it over to him so he can go on his merry way?

There's a difference in defending your life as a last resort & defending $5.

 

Resisting a criminal has very little to do with ego, but by all means, if you feel it's in your best interest to prostrate yourself before an uneducated thug go for it. Why not have your wife/gf fellate him for his trouble too? I mean, at least you're not going to get hurt. Give him your car while you're at it. It's just "stuff", you can get more.

Resisting a criminal has very little to do with ego, but by all means, if you feel it's in your best interest to prostrate yourself before an uneducated thug go for it. Why not have your wife/gf fellate him for his trouble too? I mean, at least you're not going to get hurt. Give him your car while you're at it. It's just "stuff", you can get more.

Do you need anger management classes? In denial about your ego? Should we also trade insults until we turn blue?

Many folks out there are not as able bodied as you sound. Seniors, minors, handicapped, etc..

Many folks also have different levels of acceptable risks.

All of us will protect our loved ones with all means necessary but some of us will not take a bullet for a car. If you can't understand that, then you have some growing up to do.

Do you need anger management classes? In denial about your ego? Should we also trade insults until we turn blue?

Many folks out there are not as able bodied as you sound. Seniors, minors, handicapped, etc..

Many folks also have different levels of acceptable risks.

 

so that means allowing a thug to do as he pleases? Sure, that might work. Then again, it might not. Better to be safe than sorry.

You can still do this and have an equalizer. She didn't survive this encounter because she remained calm and used her brain. She was lucky. Being beaten with the butt of a pistol can go from unconscious to coma to DEAD pretty easy. Regardless, it should be her CHOICE whether to have access to a firearm in this situation.

Agreed. Right to have a firearm in a store is fine. But in the scenario you presented she was unarmed.

Do you need anger management classes? In denial about your ego? Should we also trade insults until we turn blue?

Many folks out there are not as able bodied as you sound. Seniors, minors, handicapped, etc..

Many folks also have different levels of acceptable risks.

 

How do thugs choose their victims ? Generally, they pick the ones they feel will be most compliant and less likely to offer resistance.

 

If every man, woman and child resisted every thug to the limits of their endurance, crimes against persons would diminish to nothing. You're advocating that if you just give up, put your life in the hands of a bad guy, everything will come out rosey. It's blather.

It's your right to resist & take a bullet over $5 in your wallet at gunpoint if your ego is that large.

Listen if the bad guy already has the upper hand from pointing a gun at you, he can pull the trigger at any time.

So would you like him to take your $5 from your body after he shoots you or would you like to hand it over to him so he can go on his merry way?

There's a difference in defending your life as a last resort & defending $5.

 

That is a scenario that not only did you make up but I also said nothing about. I implore you to show me where I said I suggested anything close to what you just said.

 

Unless you happen to posses the power of mind reading or future telling, your perception of reality is also mind boggling.

As a country we have become way to PC and being PC is just another work for a P_ssified Polulation especially in this state.

 

This guy should have been given awards, not fired.

That is a scenario that not only did you make up but I also said nothing about. I implore you to show me where I said I suggested anything close to what you just said.

 

Unless you happen to posses the power of mind reading or future telling, your perception of reality is also mind boggling.

You wrote "Why people would want to leave it in the hands of a criminal, who is in the process of committing a crime, while using a deadly weapon, to decide their fate, with the hope that this might actually be a swell guy with no intentions to hurt you, is mind boggling."

So sounds like you'll defend yourself over $5 at gunpoint, right?

Again, you just quoted something, then made up something else about $5??? Do you not understand why you are losing me here? I suppose your reading comprehension is far different then mine.

 

It sounds to me like you are saying you should enjoy and be grateful for being robbed, right?

How do thugs choose their victims ? Generally, they pick the ones they feel will be most compliant and less likely to offer resistance.

 

If every man, woman and child resisted every thug to the limits of their endurance, crimes against persons would diminish to nothing. You're advocating that if you just give up, put your life in the hands of a bad guy, everything will come out rosey. It's blather.

I'm not saying to give up. Read again. Remain calm, cooperate until the possibility of escalating to emanate danger. Statistics are in your favor. Look for ways to escape and/or talk them down. It's difficult when you do not have the upper hand & have a situation you can not control. Your mind is your greatest weapon.

 

Criminals are never fair. There is a difference between protecting property versus bodily harm.

 

You wrote "Why people would want to leave it in the hands of a criminal, who is in the process of committing a crime, while using a deadly weapon, to decide their fate, with the hope that this might actually be a swell guy with no intentions to hurt you, is mind boggling."

 

So sounds like you'll defend yourself over $5 at gunpoint, right?

 

The point is you never know what the bad guy's intent is. If he is sticking a weapon in my face a threatening me with bodily harm - and I have a means to resist, I will. You are approaching this from a rational person's perspective, the factor you are leaving out, is that criminals are not rational. They can go from being pleasant and nice one minute to homicidal the next. I'm going to err on the side of caution and stop the threat.

 

You've been drinking the Kool-Aide too long.

 

Adios,

 

Pizza Bob

The point is you never know what the bad guy's intent is. If he is sticking a weapon in my face a threatening me with bodily harm - and I have a means to resist, I will. You are approaching this from a rational person's perspective, the factor you are leaving out, is that criminals are not rational. They can go from being pleasant and nice one minute to homicidal the next. I'm going to err on the side of caution and stop the threat.

 

You've been drinking the Kool-Aide too long.

 

Adios,

 

Pizza Bob

If the majority of robberies end in a homicide then you would want to resist.

I already mentioned you need to resist when it comes to bodily harm. All I'm saying is people have the right to risk their own bodily harm in protecting their property or not.

Of course outcomes are unpredictable but statistics are in your favor. Don't let those horrible new events of murder skew your rationality.

 

Bob, I don't appreciate the Kool-aide bit. Powdered drinks have always been underrated.

so that means allowing a thug to do as he pleases? Sure, that might work. Then again, it might not. Better to be safe than sorry.

Ray, it really depends on the situation. A woman trapped in an elevator with the assailant would deploy different strategies as opposed to meeting the assailant in open space. I'm not sure what you mean by better safe than sorry when one is confronted by an armed assailant. If you are able to flee than to wrestle for the firearm, then I'm sure running is your best bet.

If the majority of robberies end in a homicide then you would want to resist.

I already mentioned you need to resist when it comes to bodily harm. All I'm saying is people have the right to risk their own bodily harm in protecting their property or not.

Of course outcomes are unpredictable but statistics are in your favor. Don't let those horrible new events of murder skew your rationality.

 

Bob, I don't appreciate the Kool-aide bit. Powdered drinks have always been underrated.

 

My point was that you have no idea whether the BG is going to do you bodily harm or not. Hell, they may not even know. If you want to play the "statistics game" be my guest - if I have a clear shot, I'm ending the threat.