So I've narrowed it down I know there all different but I'm at a loss.

 

Here's where I'm at..

 

1. Walther ppq.. I love it.. I wanted a 45. But this puppy is a quality gun for a great price.

 

2. M&P 40 also nice.. the fit to me is in the same boat as the ppq. I did not get to fire the gun however. There is a member on the boards who has offered a decent price for one as well so price is neck and neck.

 

3. Xdm compact. I get the round I want. This gun feels like it was molded to my hand. It is a little large for a compact I thought but it could be in my head I'm spinning from looking at guns. Another didn't shoot gun.

 

Last I want to throw it out there..

The five seven.. what an awesome looking gun. My concern is the bullet lol wouldn't you have a lack of stopping power with a hint of over penetration?? Ill have to look into this more.

Anyway there's the few I'm looking into seriously. I'm on a hunt to track down a buddy or coworker who owns one of the two I didn't shoot. Any pros cons or feedback would be great..

you can get the PPQ in 40S&W if you want something bigger than 9mm...ive heard its a little snappy. Lous in Raritan had one the last time i was there.

 

i have the PPQ 9mm and a Springfield 1911 in 45. Im hoping one day i go into the safe to find that they made a baby.

I had all three at one point. Sold the ppq because i was downsizing polymer guns and I hated the mag release. Great trigger and great shooter. I have the mp 40 pro. Feels great, nice trigger..easily upgradeable. Love my xdm 3.8 45. It's my HD gun. Welcome to shoot either if you bring some ammo

I love my m&p 40, and with a 9mm barrel using the same mag and 45 seconds later it shoots 9mm. You get 2 pistols in ONE. A new barrel would cost around $80 brand new. (You could also get a 357 barrel)

 

As for the five seven, its a awesome looking gun but it ends right there. Ammo availability was my concern while I was looking into that pistol. I mean the price and where to find the ammo was what drove me away.

I'd recommend AGAINST the 5.7. It's ridiculously expensive, ammo is difficult to find and expensive.

one thing about the .40 is it is a snappy round. I don't mind and i carry a SA EMP .40 out of state. what are you actually looking to with the gun? HD/range? carry piece?

<p>HD, range and bear defense if Jersey ever passes it. I've had two serious encounters with a bow in my hand. Ice seen hundreds of bear and never a problem untilled this year two different bear two different areas :wacko:The five seven I thought the same thing not a real consideration. When you guys say snappy could you explain?? Also I might just take you up on the offer to shoot I don't mind buying us both some ammo and lunch to top. Where abouts you hit the range??

Another negative for the Five-Seven is most ranges do not allow you to shoot it. It was on the short list of my first 3 pistols but most ranges I go to do not allow the 5.7 round which is a major drawback.

 

I've got the PPQ in 9mm and absolutely love it. 9mm is cheaper to plink with at the range than 45. I'd imagine 9mm is not quite as effective against bears.

snappy means the recoil is a very hard jerk rather than smooth and controlled. it snaps your pistol and hand up instead of straight back into your hand. if you don't plan on shooting it a lot and getting used to it and learning to become better with it then i suggest getting the 9mm. even the .45 is smooth and controlled compared to the .40.

I'm a big .40 SW fan, roll my own as well as my defensive ammo! It is snappy but I have no qualms with it, Glock 27 for the win!

If you want something for bear protection none of the guns you listed would do nothing more than piss the bear off unless you got luckey or you are REALLY good at shot placement under stress . Most handguns for bear protection are a minimum of .44 mag

Bear protection...go for 10mm. Glock 20

I have a PPQ in 9mm and love it.I just put theTrijicon night sights on it,very easy did it myself..For a bear backup S&W 329PD in 44 mag should do ya.Good Luck..