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Obama shoots for broad gun control

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no, i don't think so. All these ARs/AKs/semi-auto rifles are being sold at record numbers. Do you think people will just turn around and surrender them? NOPE

 

NOT ME

 

Well I don't want to but will if forced I have a fam that needs me home not dead or in prison.

no, i don't think so. All these ARs/AKs/semi-auto rifles are being sold at record numbers. Do you think people will just turn around and surrender them? NOPE

 

NOT ME

 

i actually wonder in the hypothetical scenario...where a gun ban/turn in or youre a felon were the outcome...how many of the never owned a gun before soccer dad panic buyers would actually stand ground...my thought is they are buying based on the theory there will be grandfathering....not to be prepared for the next american revolution...and faced with the " turn in or youre breaking the law" they will trot themselves on down to the local drop off spot like loyal subjects

I'm working on trying to get off from work that day.....

But..... With the rally on feb. 8th.... And Biden's plans coming out in Jan, the threat of executive order bypassing congress.... Wouldn't it be harder to overturn a law after its enacted, than to stop it prior?

I'm working on trying to get off from work that day.....

But..... With the rally on feb. 8th.... And Biden's plans coming out in Jan, the threat of executive order bypassing congress.... Wouldn't it be harder to overturn a law after its enacted, than to stop it prior?

 

my point exactly..too little too late...this forum for example is firearm enthusiasts...and 40%+/- have already given up and are picking out new hobbies...like thats all this is about...howd everyone like the extra money out of your checks this week?

We hire our police force and our military. This has to be united and peaceful. Liberty is fleeting. It has tostart at the local level.

 

 

It's really tough considering that everyone I talk to about this seems to have the same response.

"It won't happen"

" stop worrying about it and chill out"

" They can't take your guns, don't stress it"

The only interaction I have on this subject is right here on this forum.

By that I mean logical, well thought, and completely aware that our rights are in jeopardy.

People have no idea what is really at play here!!

We hire our police force and our military. This has to be united and peaceful. Liberty is fleeting. It has tostart at the local level.

but not all of them remember that and which side of the line they belong

It's really tough considering that everyone I talk to about this seems to have the same response.

"It won't happen"

" stop worrying about it and chill out"

" They can't take your guns, don't stress it"

The only interaction I have on this subject is right here on this forum.

By that I mean logical, well thought, and completely aware that our rights are in jeopardy.

People have no idea what is really at play here!!

agreed...and even some non active marine friends that i still keep in touch with...seemingly have drank the kool aid...and said things i never thought id hear them say...

Where is the line drawn?

Could any type of protest label us as terrorist? If we stand up, can Obama implement NDAA on us and detain us for fighting his administration?

Do we really Stand a chance with peaceful rallies, writing our reps... Considering he will use executive order, then double up his secret service because the threats would be rampant.

Where is the line drawn?

Could any type of protest label us as terrorist? If we stand up, can Obama implement NDAA on us and detain us for fighting his administration?

Do we really Stand a chance with peaceful rallies, writing our reps... Considering he will use executive order, then double up his secret service because the threats would be rampant.

 

i actually feel no line has been drawn...a majority of the problem is as you mentioned alot of people seem to think nothing is going to happen....and 50% of those who do think something bad is coming...talk about it around the "watercooler" but are too busy with their life to draw a line...expecting by donating to nra personel car payments and expense accounts is "doing something"...which leaves a small scattering of "one man armies"...which isnt going to get the job done....we need real show of support....organized demonstrations....not hostile protests leading to fighting etc....but who should be organizing this...?...i say the nra...in all reality...some guy on a message board 1 hr a day lineing up 25 people to go walk back in forth in front of city hall isnt going to make the statement we need made....

I believe we need to support our pro Bill of Rights governors. And dont forgfet money talks. Go to local town meetings as peaceful groups. Heck maybe we should sign up deceased progressives and our pets as new nra members.

 

 

 

 

If we dont stand together and rally others to our cause all will be lost. Those that say it can't happen and don't take this seriously are not on our side.

I believe we need to support our pro Bill of Rights governors. And dont forgfet money talks. Go to local town meetings as peaceful groups. Heck maybe we should sign up deceased progressives and our pets as new nra members.

 

i agree but i think it needs to be a nationwide big statement...thats why i mentioned the nra organizing it...as for the later part..if only we had a time machine...but i think its a little late now for that lol

 

If we dont stand together and rally others to our cause all will be lost.

 

definately agree...just need to get people off their asses..and realize this is a pivotal point and once in place it will be far harder to fix

Honestly with all this money going to the NRA right now there should be more movement. Why haven't I seen more press conferences discussing the problems with these bans? Why haven't I seen anything besides anti-gun make the mainstream media? The NRA needs to let it be known that they are fighting for us!! They need to let the American people know that they are fighting for everyone's freedoms!! You take one freedom... Kiss the test goodbye.

With as big as this is right now people will watch!!! If the NRA called a conference, it would make prime time. They need to get everyone motivated!!! We can only do soo much, people look at us like tin-foil hatters, the NRA is a major organization..!!! They have more persuasive powers than myself.

im going to get flamed for this im sure..but i dont put much faith in the nra...arent really doing any national organizing of rallies and such...some minion in their huge buildings could be sending out emails..it wouldnt take away from their "war room planning"...with the huge influx of memberships...and increased revenue...they should be able to overcome this...but they have to actually DO something...not just make video statements...

With as big as this is right now people will watch!!! If the NRA called a conference, it would make prime time. They need to get everyone motivated!!! We can only do soo much, people look at us like tin-foil hatters, the NRA is a major organization..!!! They have more persuasive powers than myself.

 

who controls the media?...."they" call the nra a killing organization....and ive herd mention "they" want it named as a d.t. group

We need a president that actually cares about the rights of the people!!! We need one that understands law abiding citizens are the backbone of this country!! If he turns all of us into felons, how will we maintain out jobs? How will he get our tax dollars to fund all of his entitlements?

I apologize for my rant..... I feel helpless. As many letters as I send out and phone calls I make, this negative news just keeps rolling out.

We need a president that actually cares about the rights of the people!!! We need one that understands law abiding citizens are the backbone of this country!! If he turns all of us into felons, how will we maintain out jobs? How will he get our tax dollars to fund all of his entitlements?

 

agreed...and thats not him...but here we are..second term...

I apologize for my rant..... I feel helpless. As many letters as I send out and phone calls I make, this negative news just keeps rolling out.

 

 

see how much more coverage "they" get?.....how much more nationally organized they are?...they get s$%t done......

and i also wonder all the letters/internet petitions..do the intended recipients even see them?...or does some aide just shoot back a form letter to make you feel warm and fuzzy like your elected officials care.... and keep it moving...but thousands of people peacefully rallying in front of buildings that makes news...just cant be like the occupy type escapades and the statement needs to be made before they pass the bs they are trying

If we rally in Trenton, can we all bring unloaded long guns (as long as we have appropriate paperwork)?

 

Or would that be a "disorderly persons" offense?

If we rally in Trenton, can we all bring unloaded long guns (as long as we have appropriate paperwork)?

 

Or would that be a "disorderly persons" offense?

That would give them fuel for their fire. I believe that would be treading on the terrorist water....

Idk I wouldn't risk them confiscating my firearm.

Dont think to yourself this hasnt happened already.

 

During Katrina, the military went door to door confiscating legal firearms, free law abiding citizins.

 

Also what's the walmart thing?

 

My interpretation that the administration wants to work with WalMart -- the largest retailer in the world -- to stamp out the competition from gun shows. So I would guess that they still expect WalMarts -- well, WalMarts outside of NJ -- to keep selling guns and ammunition.

 

Tin foil hat was replaced by a tin foil helmet!!!!

 

Whatever they do, Zero will be sure to spike the football, just like he did with the "fiscal cliff" taxes!

 

But regarding the "cliff", it's interesting that someone earning $30k will see (payroll) taxes go up a greater % than someone earning $500k will see his (income) taxes go up. http://www.dailymail...iscal-deal.html I don't remember Zero promising that -- or the MSM even mentioning it.

 

Has anyone made a list of all the promises that he made in 2008 and tallied how many he's kept, and how many he's turned 180-degrees on? I don't think it's a very high percentage. Putting on my own tinfoil hat, I'd wonder who's running the guy. His actions don't seem to match his rhetoric.

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