and be open to legislation that may work..

 

like?

Background checks could be optional for face to face, but mandatory... it only takes 10 minutes.........well why do you need 30 round mags.......it only takes 5 seconds to change a mag......5-10 rounds is more than enough!

If background checks were available for FTF sales, I probably would do this before a sale, but mandatory...nope.

like?

 

there are bigger issues like the prison system.. if the ultimate goal is to protect society then for starters revamping the prison system so that we don't shuttle people in and out of jails and right back on the street after short useless stays..... making prisons places that you DON'T want to be.. unfortunately none of that will protect people from the initial violent act.. but should reduce the amount of repeat offenders... if we keep violent people locked up.. they can't commit additional crimes..

 

the only reason I site background checks for gun sales is because it is OBVIOUS... and we are talking about gun specific laws.. don't want the government to hold the cards? don't want to pay for the background checks? FINE make it something that the end user can do.. something they can do over the phone.. or online... and in return get rid of ridiculous systems like those in NJ that require FPID cards... get rid of pistol permits... a simple end user background check system would end the need for all that nonsense..

The problem is the "ghetto" mentality. The rotating door of the prison system. The "ME" generation and the need to have 15 minutes of fame, even if it's killing a bunch of kids. Shall I go on?

there are bigger issues like the prison system.. if the ultimate goal is to protect society then for starters revamping the prison system so that we don't shuttle people in and out of jails and right back on the street after short useless stays..... making prisons places that you DON'T want to be.. unfortunately none of that will protect people from the initial violent act.. but should reduce the amount of repeat offenders... if we keep violent people locked up.. they can't commit additional crimes..

 

now your making sense

2:24pm

 

but that is illustrating a problem with the justice system... "kill someone with a hammer" and you should never see the light of day again... one of my friends from highschool was at a point in his life addicted to drugs.. involved in the heavily.. to the point where he was arrested in a situation that may have involved selling drugs? at any rate.. he served his time.. cleaned up and is good to go now.. unfortunately his felony drug conviction prohibits him from ever owning a gun legally.. and that is stupid..

 

5:52 PM

 

The problem is the "ghetto" mentality. The rotating door of the prison system. The "ME" generation and the need to have 15 minutes of fame, even if it's killing a bunch of kids. Shall I go on?

 

now your making sense

 

if you actually read ALL the things I write you would see that its not all the nonsense you think it is..

you type too much though

you seem to understand...

 

the liberal masses are saying "MORE GUN CONTROL" and I am saying OK if that is the case and some law IS going into effect.. lets at least take a look at something that is somewhat created in logic.. and fight the hard fight on things that are totally ridiculous...

 

perception is important..

 

"NOT ONE INCH" is going to be seen as the unwillingness to compromise.. at that point you get what you get...

 

my interest is to talk about things that do make sense..

 

"the existing laws are NOT working to keep us safe... so instead of making more nonsense laws that history has shown us do not work.. lets focus on things like creating a reasonable background check system.. harsher sentences for violent crimes... harsher penalties for those that participate in things like straw purchases... "

 

I would like to see us focus on things that maybe make some sense..

 

Vlad, we as gun owners have already compromised too much. They have moved the line multiple times over the last two generations, first going after SBRs, SBSs, MGs, AOWs, etc. Then going after us with AWBs and other bs.

 

Why don't they compromise for once and just suck it up. I don't owe them anything.

 

Furthermore, and you better pay attention because this is the most important part: The Diane Feinsteins of the world will not be placated. You give them this one thing (FtF transfers) and they'll just come back for more after the next media circus shooting.

Sensible gun control would be banning serpa holsters...

 

Because nothing is as dangerous as a handgun in a serpa

 

Vlad, we as gun owners have already compromised too much. They have moved the line multiple times over the last two generations, first going after SBRs, SBSs, MGs, AOWs, etc. Then going after us with AWBs and other bs.

 

Why don't they compromise for once and just suck it up. I don't owe them anything.

 

Furthermore, and you better pay attention because this is the most important part: The Diane Feinsteins of the world will not be placated. You give them this one thing (FtF transfers) and they'll just come back for more after the next media circus shooting.

 

I do not view gun control as a situation where more laws need to be piled on.. I instead view it as something that needs to be revamped completely.. if you look a couple posts up you will see what I am saying..

 

Sensible gun control would be banning serpa holsters...

 

Because nothing is as dangerous as a handgun in a serpa

 

 

LOL

I do not view gun control as a situation where more laws need to be piled on.. I instead view it as something that needs to be revamped completely.. if you look a couple posts up you will see what I am saying..

 

You're going about it all wrong. Eliminating FtF transfers is not the way to go. You're effectively creating a registration scheme which allows for confiscation or interruption.

 

What happens if the Government closes the registry or has "technical issues" with NICS? Huh? Then what?

 

Furthermore, where is the evidence? Where is the proof that Face to Face transfers are in fact the problem? Shouldn't we have some evidence to back this up?