Just updated.. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/09/joe-biden-gun-group_n_2440359.html

 

According to a White House Pool Report, Biden explained, "the president IS going to act." The White House has determined that "executive action can be taken," stated the Vice President. The specifics of that action have not yet been settled.

http://www.weeklysta...uns_694984.html

 

 

There was talk about EO's before, wonder how Holder is spinning this. Will be interesting to watch.

Im curious. If a president rules as a king and uses executive orders does the congress have recourse? What are the steps to stopping it?

Im curious. If a president rules as a king and uses executive orders does the congress have recourse? What are the steps to stopping it?

 

Who's gonna stop it? Dem's will support it, cause it's part of the DNC platform, and the Republicans, well............

Im curious. If a president rules as a king and uses executive orders does the congress have recourse? What are the steps to stopping it?

 

Not really comfortable in going here, not an expert in consitiutinal law, but the Congress can't overide an EO like a veto. I believe they have to pass legislation to change the order. Then the cycle is clear, why would a sitting President sign a law to override his EO.

 

Plus with the split with the Senate/House it wont see the light of day in the Senate.

Good thing we have the Second Amendment to fight this stuff...

Good thing we have the Second Amendment to fight this stuff...

 

Congress can pass a law basically overriding an executive order which of course would be vetoed. They can then try to override the veto, not happening here. The only other way is for the SCOTUS to declare the EO unconstitutional.

From Wiki on Executive Order

Congress was able to overturn an executive order by passing legislation in conflict with it during the period of 1939 to 1983 until the Supreme Court ruled in Immigration and Naturalization Service v. Chadha that the "legislative veto" represented "the exercise of legislative power" without "bicameral passage followed by presentment to the President."^[9] The loss of the legislative veto has caused Congress to look for alternative measures to override executive orders such as refusing to approve funding necessary to carry out certain policy measures contained with the order or to legitimize policy mechanisms. In the former, the president retains the power to veto such a decision; however, the Congress may override a veto with a two-thirds majority to end an executive order. It has been argued that a Congressional override of an executive order is a nearly impossible event due to the supermajority vote required and the fact that such a vote leaves individual lawmakers very vulnerable to political criticism.

85 million gun owners in this country with a few waco's down south who would rather fight than give up their guns! Could be the start of the next civil war if Obummer does this and a lot of people are going to get hurt!

85 million gun owners in this country with a few waco's down south who would rather fight than give up their guns! Could be the start of the next civil war if Obummer does this and a lot of people are going to get hurt!

 

I agree this might be the BIG one. I hope this doesnt happen .

crystal ball says this....

 

they will pass some laws... they will likely be similar to previous AWB... but at the end of the day they will allow for grandfathering because no government is dumb enough to try door to door confiscation... it is not practical... people will allow the ban because it does not directly impact what they already have.... it will have absolutely no impact on violence.. and terrible things will continue to be done by terrible people, but the fact that there was "action" will be praised by the left.. the legislation will be some feel good illogical knee jerk reaction as all other legislation is... it will have little impact on NJ because the laws already suck.. the only exception MIGHT be some in NJ push for more strict gun laws...

 

at the end of the day the whole mess will be some event that allows the administration to grand stand while the nation continues to collapse into the enormous economic abyss..

EO banning firearms in any way = revoluion!

Scary times gents. We're on the verge of economic collapse and they are worried about guns. I just can't fathom how these idiots keep getting elected. I see this going two ways: 1) ban guns = civil war. 2) inflation hits = civil war. Either way its bad...

Scary times gents. We're on the verge of economic collapse and they are worried about guns. I just can't fathom how these idiots keep getting elected. I see this going two ways: 1) ban guns = civil war. 2) inflation hits = civil war. Either way its bad...

 

Either way we will still have our guns . Those that don't? Will wish they did!

 

 

Either way we will still have our guns . Those that don't? Will wish they did!

 

From my cold dead hands brother

I knew I shoulda stopped at Bullseye on my way home that day....

Im curious. If a president rules as a king and uses executive orders does the congress have recourse? What are the steps to stopping it?

 

YEs, there's the official way which is onerous and difficult and basically requires a lot of congress and the supreme court to get it done. Then there's the practical way, which is that EOs are guidance to the executive branch and departments. The EO goes out to a department and they do something congress doesn't like, write a law spefcifically restricting that action, or just write in defunding said department into the next spending bill that hits and send the president a memo to go F himself.

Scary times gents. We're on the verge of economic collapse and they are worried about guns. I just can't fathom how these idiots keep getting elected. I see this going two ways: 1) ban guns = civil war. 2) inflation hits = civil war. Either way its bad...

 

That's just the point. Obummer wants to disarm the subjects before the collapse!