not anymore...that rant on Youtube just cost him his CCW permit, Tennessee revoked it.

I just don't understand why people need to broadcast , tweet and facebook every facet of their lives....doesn't anyone have any modesty anymore?

Guess he should take the opportunity to learn a valuable lesson here

 

http://www.newschannel5.com/story/20566009/dept-of-safety-suspends-handgun-permit-of-local-man-after-gun-control-rage-video#.UPCDIsKfC8w.twitter

 

NASHVILLE, Tenn.- Tennessee Department of Safety and Homeland Security has suspended the handgun carry permit of a local man who threatened to "start killing people" to protect his Second Amendment right.

In a statement released Friday officials said they had suspended the handgun carry permit of James Yeager, CEO of Tactical Response based on "material likelihood of risk of harm to the public".

On Thursday, a video of Yeager angrily claiming he would "start killing people" if President Barack Obama moved forward with gun control measures began to go viral on the internet.

"The number one priority for our department is to ensure the public's safety. Mr. Yeager's comments were irresponsible, dangerous, and deserved our immediate attention. Due to our concern, as well as that of law enforcement, his handgun permit was suspended immediately. We have notified Mr. Yeager about the suspension today via e-mail. He will receive an official notification of his suspension through the mail," Commissioner Bill Gibbons said.

Yeager, CEO of Tactical Response, a company that offers training to civilians in weapons and tactical skills, has multiple certifications with several different types of weapons. Officials with the Tennessee Department of Safety and Homeland Security were explicit in stating that the Yeager was not a Department of Safety and Homeland Security certified instructor, nor is his school department certified.

According to officials Yeager can seek a review of the department's decision in the general sessions court.

Ouch....

In the General Sessions Court when he asks for a review HUMBLY ...l.....he better put a sock in his big mouth.

 

I m sure he has attempted to contact Pierce M all day long today......

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

His carry permit was 'suspended', which is different than 'revoked'. I'm sure he will get it back in no time.

 

Reading on a lot of other forums, it seems like more than 50% of gun forum members agree with his words...but just wish he said them in a different manner.

Ouch, it's going to be even harder for him to get his NJ carry permit with that on his record!

As I stated in the other thread "douchebag"

His carry permit was 'suspended', which is different than 'revoked'. I'm sure he will get it back in no time.

 

Reading on a lot of other forums, it seems like more than 50% of gun forum members agree with his words...but just wish he said them in a different manner.

 

Dont think James is capable of that personally...Not a Bad guy, but you cant tell the man anything he already knows it ALL.

Good.

I'll bet he isn't as loud mouth in front front of the judge. I'm waiting to hear how he explains to the judge what he really meant by "start to kill people". If the judge orders a psychological evaluation at the least I would expect it to verify Yeager's delusions of grandeur.

 

He's an inexperienced charlatan AFAIC.

maybe Mr. Yeager might have a change of heart and start liking Beretta's or revolvers or, dare I say it, 1911s?

So I got to thinking about this. Looking back at some of our founding fathers and their radical statements, why should people be surprised when they get told what the founders would have told them? Seriously, if someone says if/when you cross that line they will shoot you, your first thought should be to reevaluate why that person is so serious about that line. I don't know what the tactful words are but their must be a clear definition of the line and the consequences for crossing it.

 

Our radical founders clearly intended for us to draw the line and protected the means by which we were meant to enforce it, read their words:

 

"Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed; as they are in almost every kingdom in Europe. The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops that can be, on any pretence, raised in the United States. A military force, at the command of Congress, can execute no laws, but such as the people perceive to be just and constitutional; for they will possess the power, and jealousy will instantly inspire the inclination, to resist the execution of a law which appears to them unjust and oppressive." - Noah Webster, An Examination of the Leading Principles of the Federal Constitution (Philadelphia 1787)

 

"They that can give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin

 

"Who are the militia? Are they not ourselves? Is it feared, then, that we shall turn our arms each man gainst his own bosom. Congress have no power to disarm the militia. Their swords, and every other terrible implement of the soldier, are the birthright of an American...[T]he unlimited power of the sword is not in the hands of either the federal or state governments, but, where I trust in God it will ever remain, in the hands of the people." - Tenche Coxe, The Pennsylvania Gazette, Feb. 20, 1788

 

"Americans [have] the right and advantage of being armed, unlike the citizens of other countries whose governments are afraid to trust their people with arms." - James Madison

 

"The Constitution shall never be construed to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms . . ." - Samuel Adams

 

"When the resolution of enslaving America was formed in Great Britain, the British Parliament was advised by an artful man, who was governor of Pennsylvania, to disarm the people; that it was the best and most effectual way to enslave them; but that they should not do it openly, but weaken them, and let them sink gradually...I ask, who are the militia? They consist of now of the whole people, except a few public officers. But I cannot say who will be the militia of the future day. If that paper on the table gets no alteration, the militia of the future day may not consist of all classes, high and low, and rich and poor..." - George Mason, Virginia Constitution Convention

 

"To preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of people always possess arms..." - Richard Henry Lee - Senator, First Congress

 

"Whenever governments mean to invade the rights and liberties of the people, they always attempt to destroy the militia, in order to raise an army upon their ruins." - Rep. Elbridge Gerry of Massachusetts

 

"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." - Thomas Jefferson, Proposed Virginia Constitution, 1776, Jefferson Papers 344.

 

"We must all hang together, or, assuredly, we shall all hang separately." Benjamin Franklin at the signing of the Declaration of Independence, July 4, 1776

 

"Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." - Thomas Jefferson

 

"Government is not reason; it is not eloquence. It is force. And force, like fire, is a dangerous servant and a fearful master." - George Washington

 

"Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is argument of tyrants. It is the creed of slaves." - William Pitt in the House of Commons November 18, 1783

 

"... God forbid we should ever be twenty years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, and always, well informed. The part which is wrong will be discontented, in proportion to the importance of the facts they misconceive. If they remain quiet under such misconceptions, it is lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty.... And what country can preserve its liberties, if its rulers are not warned from time to time, that this people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to the facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure." - Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 (C.J. Boyd, Ed., 1950)

 

"Any people that would give up liberty for a little temporary safety deserves neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin

 

"The very atmosphere of firearms anywhere and everywhere restrains evil interference they deserve a place of honor with all that is good." - George Washington

 

"A free people ought not only to be armed..." - George Washington

 

"The great object is that every man be armed. Everyone who is able may have a gun." - Patrick Henry

 

"Are we at last brought to such humiliating and debasing degradation that we cannot be trusted with arms for our defense? Where is the difference between having our arms in possession and under our direction, and having them under the management of Congress? If our defense be the real object of having those arms, in whose hands can they be trusted with more propriety, or equal safety to us, as in our own hands?" - Patrick Henry

 

"Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!" - Patrick Henry

So I got to thinking about this. Looking back at some of our founding fathers and their radical statements, why should people be surprised when they get told what the founders would have told them? Seriously, if someone says if/when you cross that line they will shoot you, your first thought should be to reevaluate why that person is so serious about that line. I don't know what the tactful words are but their must be a clear definition of the line and the consequences for crossing it.

 

Our radical founders clearly intended for us to draw the line and protected the means by which we were meant to enforce it, read their words:

 

Please note the last sentence in your first paragraph. There were no "tactful words" in Yeagers's initial statement. I hope you are not trying to compare Yeager's statement to the "tactful words" used by the founding fathers. No where do they say "kill people". Comparing Yeager's statement to any quote by the founding fathers is like saying JFK and Tupac Shakur were assassinated. To paraphrase Chris Rock, JFK got assassinated. Tupac? That gangster got shot.

Please note the last sentence in your first paragraph. There were no "tactful words" in Yeagers's initial statement. I hope you are not trying to compare Yeager's statement to the "tactful words" used by the founding fathers. No where do they say "kill people". Comparing Yeager's statement to any quote by the founding fathers is like saying JFK and Tupac Shakur were assassinated. To paraphrase Chris Rock, JFK got assassinated. Tupac? That gangster got shot.

 

That is my point, there is clearly an insinuation by the people that gave birth to this nation that if someone were to cross the line that we the people be well equipped with arms so as to have the ability to stop them.

 

What was said was blunt, direct and to the point with little tact or eloquence but how should wannabe tyrants and their potentially complicit minions be so informed if not with blunt and direct words?

 

My question is how do you tell them not one more inch politely? Should there not be a clear and unambiguous warning in advance that they are about to cross that line?

 

When people like Andrew Cuomo begin to openly call for blatant anti-constitutional activity with a cheering agenda driven mass media willfully complicit to keep the bourgeoisie from the truths of similar activity throughout human let alone American history; what do you do? Do you wait to comply with turning them in and hope your five guys on the court stay healthy long enough for you to get them back in two or three years or do you stand up and lay siege upon the tyrants and their minions in defiance of their edicts?

 

Every incremental infringement up until this point has been something potentially reversible or correctable, but once you submit to their edicts and they have collected and melted them all down it is too late to renegotiate.

Now he's got his attorney on youtube.

 

 

 

My question is how do you tell them not one more inch politely? Should there not be a clear and unambiguous warning in advance that they are about to cross that line?

 

I don't know the best answer to the question, but NOT telling people you will kill them is a good start.

maybe Mr. Yeager might have a change of heart and start liking Beretta's or revolvers or, dare I say it, 1911s?

 

LOL

 

 

I love you Ray

I don't know the best answer to the question, but NOT telling people you will kill them is a good start.

 

I agree what he did was not helpful at all. What he did was also not that much different than what those on the left do on a regular basis in their crusade against us. Recent case in point:

 

Kaul: Nation needs a new agenda on guns

 

The thing missing from the debate so far is anger — anger that we live in a society where something like the Sandy Hook Elementary massacre can happen and our main concern is not offending the NRA’s sensibilities.

That’s obscene. Here, then, is my “madder-than-hell-and-I’m-not-going-to-take-it-anymore” program for ending gun violence in America:

• Repeal the Second Amendment, the part about guns anyway. It’s badly written, confusing and more trouble than it’s worth. It offers an absolute right to gun ownership, but it puts it in the context of the need for a “well-regulated militia.” We don’t make our militia bring their own guns to battles. And surely the Founders couldn’t have envisioned weapons like those used in the Newtown shooting when they guaranteed gun rights. Owning a gun should be a privilege, not a right.

• Declare the NRA a terrorist organization and make membership illegal. Hey! We did it to the Communist Party, and the NRA has led to the deaths of more of us than American Commies ever did. (I would also raze the organization’s headquarters, clear the rubble and salt the earth, but that’s optional.) Make ownership of unlicensed assault rifles a felony. If some people refused to give up their guns, that “prying the guns from their cold, dead hands” thing works for me.

• Then I would tie Mitch McConnell and John Boehner, our esteemed Republican leaders, to the back of a Chevy pickup truck and drag them around a parking lot until they saw the light on gun control.

And if that didn’t work, I’d adopt radical measures. None of that is going to happen, of course. But I’ll bet gun sales will rise.

 

So when the left gets "angry" and starts talking about dragging Republican government officials behind pick-up trucks and prying the guns from our dead hands that is journalism protected by the 1st amendment but when someone from our side responds to their actions and says if you try it we'll start "shooting people" they then get offended rather than take pause to ask why. Every time our nation is attacked by a terrorist organization the left's first question is always "what did the United States do to them to make them want to attack us" however they rarely ask themselves that same question.

TK421, great posts man. I can't contribute any more than you already have, but I totally get where you're coming from. And agree.

TK and ruger, i will stand next to you

Statements like Yeager's and Kaul's appeal to extremists of either side. They are not going to win anyone over to either side. The masses will not be inspired to "go out and kill people" or drag Republicans behind pickup trucks. They lack the respect and character the statements the founding fathers made.

 

Is there a point where armed insurrection is justified? Yes, but we are far from that point. We are a country where the rule of law prevails and efforts need to be directed to the legislative and judicial processes working.

Statements like Yeager's and Kaul's appeal to extremists of either side. They are not going to win anyone over to either side. The masses will not be inspired to "go out and kill people" or drag Republicans behind pickup trucks. They lack the respect and character the statements the founding fathers made.

 

Is there a point where armed insurrection is justified? Yes, but we are far from that point. We are a country where the rule of law prevails and efforts need to be directed to the legislative and judicial processes working.

This.

Open minded intelligent conversation on how to keep guns away from criminals.

Solutions on how to protect our children.

 

Maybe, illegal gun owners( criminals) need stiffer fines "when caught"

While the government tries to catch criminals, law abiding citizens need the right to protect themselves and others for the greater good of society. A stop gap if you will. Isn't that what ccw is for?

They don't seem to revoke Press Credentials over similar threats.

 

Nobody should need a permit to carry a firearm. It's an anachronism. Police can pull up your record on the spot if they have RAS. There's no reason to require government permission in advance of exercising any Constitutional Right.

I agree with Mr. Yeager. I agree with the founding fathers who put things in plain friggin english. All of this "it has to be interpreted crap" is to confuse and misinform people with no common sense or respect for our constitution.

They don't seem to revoke Press Credentials over similar threats.

 

Nobody should need a permit to carry a firearm. It's an anachronism. Police can pull up your record on the spot if they have RAS. There's no reason to require government permission in advance of exercising any Constitutional Right.

the criminals don't get permits.

I agree with you on this.

 

Ccw is about me and my family's protection.

 

Armdorf, thank you for that Captain obvious review! I mean everything you said has only already been said 10,000 times. Fantastic. Great for your hit count right? However, you say one thing I have not heard or seen. You stated he has caused real big problems in this situation. Exactly what are those problems? Please back up your statement.

interview with Channel 4

 

http://youtu.be/3Gqy8f70u1Y

I think he was gonna cry, he looked like a lost puppy dog maybe he should ditch and go hide behind some rocks!

I think he was gonna cry, he looked like a lost puppy dog maybe he should ditch and go hide behind some rocks!

 

So, do you think he's wrong?

Amsdork gets paid every time someone clicks his retarded videos. He is spamming all the gun boards with them and has been kicked off a few for it (including Get off the X, Yeager's forum)