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Need Help for First 9 mm

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Just got back my P2P's and looking for my first 9mm to buy. I have narrowed down to a couple options and need opinions and reviews on these to help decide.

Looking for a compact gun for range shooting as well as Home Defense, as well as CCW, of course not in NJ.

Now I know to choose the one that fits and feels the best for me, but would appreciate some input and feedback from those of you who have shot these and have had experience with them, problems, issues, good points and bad.

Want to kep the price between the $400-$700 mark.

 

Here is what I am considering (if I missed any that somone would recommend, please let me know):

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Glock 19

Baretta PX4 Storm compact

Springfield XD9c

 

Any help would be reatly appreciated!

Really nice xdm on armslist right now for cheap. I payed almost double when I bought mine new.

How do you know you'll like shooting tupperware?

How do you know you'll like striker fire?

How do you know you'll like the trigger?

How do you know you'll like this caliber?

Try before you buy.

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Thanks NJbanshee--I will take a look--Do you recommend the XD?

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Thanks Clintoon, my wife actually just bought the M&P9c and seems like a really nice and we really do like it, so looking for something different, will use hers when go to the range together. Leaning towards the Glock 19 but very hard to find right now. Just looking to see what issues come with the Glock, if any?

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No, that might be a consideration, which ones do you recommend that I should look at?

Go to a range and shoot some different weapons. Experience will be your best adviser.

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I would Love to go shoot each of these to try them out, I have shot the Glock 19 already but where can I go that has these that I can test fire?

Get the Glock, unless you like a hammer-fired gun. Then get the Beretta. Or, if you like a single-action, get the Springfield. I don't like grip safeties (unless it is a sweet 1911), and the Spingfield has a higher bore axis. But, it is a good value for all it includes (usually). Glock 19 and Beretta Compact will have 15 round magazines.

 

Again, the Glock would most likely be your best bet (if you don't have one, yet). I think RTSP in Randolph has a Glock 19 to rent.

Ever thought about a 9mm 1911?

 

Been told by a very knowledgeable person that the magazines are less than steller in the 9mm variety.

Just got back my P2P's and looking for my first 9mm to buy. I have narrowed down to a couple options and need opinions and reviews on these to help decide.

Looking for a compact gun for range shooting as well as Home Defense, as well as CCW, of course not in NJ.

Now I know to choose the one that fits and feels the best for me, but would appreciate some input and feedback from those of you who have shot these and have had experience with them, problems, issues, good points and bad.

Want to kep the price between the $400-$700 mark.

 

Here is what I am considering (if I missed any that somone would recommend, please let me know):

,

Glock 19

Baretta PX4 Storm compact

Springfield XD9c

 

Any help would be reatly appreciated!

 

My short list of favorite personal/home defense guns:

 

Glock 19

M&P Compact

M&P Shield

Sig 229

Sig 226

 

You need to compile a list of things you like that fit your needs and narrow your search down to three or four guns and shoot them all BEFORE you decide to buy one.

I don't like the Glock "safe action." I've owned both Glocks and XDs, and I prefer the single action XD over the Glock. Are you set on getting a 9mm? I really like the XD in .45, and I noticed RTSP has an XDM 45 for sale. 13 rounds of 45 ACP is a force to be reckoned with. Recoil is negligible. A lot better than my Glock 22 in .40 S&W, that's for sure.

I don't like the Glock "safe action." I've owned both Glocks and XDs, and I prefer the single action XD over the Glock. Are you set on getting a 9mm? I really like the XD in .45, and I noticed RTSP has an XDM 45 for sale. 13 rounds of 45 ACP is a force to be reckoned with. Recoil is negligible. A lot better than my Glock 22 in .40 S&W, that's for sure.

 

Glocks tend to be lov'en or hate'em kind of guns. The simple facts about Glocks are there are millions of them in the US, they are reliable and are a good value compared to similar firearms. I have not fired a newer "XD" but assume they aren't much different from the HS2000s I shot back in 2000-2001. I was not a huge fan of the gun back then and actually had a much higher opinion of the Walther P99s at the time, I felt the HS2000 always seemed to have a Cold War/Iron Curtin sort of no frills utilitarian feel to it. Perhaps Springfield has made changes to the design that lessen that feel but if so they are not obvious from the outward appearance of the gun. Recently having the chance to fire the M&Ps I would say they have excellent triggers and great ergonomics, far better than the Glock or HS2000 (XD). Again this is all my opinion and means absolutely nothing; you need to shoot them for yourself and make your own choice.

M&P excellent trigger?

Never heard that Before and I owned one.

 

I have an Xdm 3.8in ,40 and it it's a great gun.

Perfect for what the op wants. Full and compact mags.

 

Get whatever you shoot best.

 

I would Love to go shoot each of these to try them out, I have shot the Glock 19 already but where can I go that has these that I can test fire?

 

Most ranges have rental guns. The two that I frequent are Heritage Guild and RTSP. Both have a wide selection of handguns and knowledgeable staff to help guide you. Even though I own many handguns, I still rent guns that I find interesting too see if I should put 'em on my "buy list".

Been told by a very knowledgeable person that the magazines are less than steller in the 9mm variety.

 

Really? I have Tripp mags, no issues. Several guys here have the Dawson mags, no issues. I guess if you're using cheapo mags there may be problems but, that seems to be true of all cheapo mags for any platform.

 

To the OP: The G19, XD, or M&P are all really good guns. See which ones you can try then make a decision. The 9mm 1911 is an excellent choice as well but, harder to find and the better ones are going to cost you quite a bit more than the plastics.

This is 2013, not 1913. Every major manufacturer has high-tech equipment and churns out a good product. All of the guns you mentioned are great; personal preference trumps here. Walk into a store, hold several, then buy the one you like and go have fun shooting.

Been told by a very knowledgeable person that the magazines are less than steller in the 9mm variety.

 

Equals "I read on some Internet forum."

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Thanks everyone for your input. I do want to shoot these first and see what is best for me and will try the ranges mentioned for rentals. My main question or issue is when I choose the one I want, which ever one of these I like the feel of best, does anyone have any issues or problems with any of these after having them for a while and putting rounds throgh them.

I have held all of these that I am loooking for and fired the Glock 19, but what problems or drawbacks of these can I expect once I have it for a while?

Not sure if I am making sense but want something that will last without many issues or problems, in general.

M&P excellent trigger?

Never heard that Before and I owned one.

 

I have an Xdm 3.8in ,40 and it it's a great gun.

Perfect for what the op wants. Full and compact mags.

 

Get whatever you shoot best.

 

Compared to all the unaltered factory striker-fired pistols I have fired over the last 20 years which include various Glocks, Intrac HS2000, Walther P99s, Hk P7M8/13s, Kahr MK9 and K40, S&W Sigmas, M&P, M&P compact and M&P shield.

 

Of all of the unmodified versions of these guns I have fired through the years, my personal opinion is that the M&P Compact and M&P Shield were the best factory triggers of the lot. Your mileage may vary.

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Has anyone heard of EAA Witness P 9mm? Are these any good and what would they be comparable too, if anything?

http://www.ar15.com/..._4/132327_.html

 

Is it this one?

 

Try a P30, and if you like it, save up for it!

Find 1 with a couple hundred rounds in it to get in your budget.

You don't like it after a couple hundred rounds, I will buy it from you.

You are more than welcome to come and shoot mine

Has anyone heard of EAA Witness P 9mm? Are these any good and what would they be comparable too, if anything?

 

EAA is just the importer. Tanfoglio is the manufacturer. The pistols are patterned after the CZ pistols. More here: http://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=5&f=4&t=109694

 

My recommendation is to rent four pistols you are considering. Shoot at four separate quadrants on your target, alternating pistols between magazines so you don't give undue bias to one pistol, and look at your groupings. If you're permitted to do so, don't drop your mags after they're empty so you can practice a mag swap when you switch back.

Glock is awesome. Little polish job on the inside and little tape on the grip and It is a great gun! I would take it to battle.

 

But, just bought Walther PPQ and I am VERY surprised by how good it feels and shoots. It has not passed the test of time as my trusty Glock, but so far I am very impressed.

 

Biggest downside to PPQ is expensive mags.

Has anyone heard of EAA Witness P 9mm? Are these any good and what would they be comparable too, if anything?

 

I have the Tanfoglio Force 99R (decocker) which is the same as the Witness P. It is damn-near a CZ 75BD at half the price. I paid $350 for mine. It's a great shooting weapon and a great choice for a first semi-auto 9mm.

This is usually the time where I shamelessly advocate for the PPQ, but with the way the gun market is now, I can't say it's a great way to start with the mag situation being the way it is. Granted, now that Walther is in America, magazines should be a bit more available to us in the form of P99 magazines.

 

Otherwise, the PPQ is a fantastic choice. I've put around 600-800 rounds through mine and have had no malfunctions of any sort. The mag release is the German style that a lot of American shooters don't care for, but for a lefty like me, the ambi controls are extremely handy.

 

In your price range you could also go with an FNX-9, one of many CZs, or a Beretta 92 variant. Lots of good options out there. I'm rather new to the sport and went with the PPQ without trying anything else besides a Glock 19 very briefly. Haven't looked back. The decision is yours and it never hurts to try before you buy, but IMHO, it isn't necessary.

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