I am picking up my Smith & Wesson M&P9 tonight and I have two questions as I am taking ownership of it. I know in NJ you have to transport ammo and firearm separately in locking compartments. My question is can I leave ammo in the magazines and keep the magazines separate from the gun while transporting it to and from the range? I am keeping the gun in a small gun safe for the transportation in the trunk.

 

Thanks all.

IANAL, but I'd not take chances with loaded mags. The less the whoke system is together, the less chance you take...

do not transport magazines loaded

Thats what I figured, thanks everyone

Enjoy your new gun!

Enjoy your new gun!

 

Thank you!

Take this for what its worth from the law summary section.

 

How To Transport

• Unloaded: The firearm must be unloaded, as in there must be no ammunition in the gun. NJ defines the word firearm meaning the actual gun, under current law transportation of a loaded magazine would not be considered a loaded gun
  
• Cased/Wrapped: If the vehicle has a defined trunk separate from the passenger compartment, the firearms are to put in the trunk. If no trunk is present (as in a SUV) the firearm must be in a fastened case/wrapped/etc.
  
• Destination: It is important to recognize that NJ dictates that your course of travel while transporting firearms should be as direct as is reasonably possible.
  

I would absolutely NOT travel with the magazine loaded. Good choice with the m&p9. Enjoy

Yeah no loaded mags, don't be an example...

 

Loaded mags are fine as long as they are not in the firearm. A loaded magazine is not considered a loaded firearm.

Anyone want to show the law that prohibits the transportation of a loaded mag?? Please post what the charge would be, not "well it's a good idea to do something extra and not cause attention". Because if your in the position that your getting searched in the first place, something else has gone wrong already.

 

In other words, let pass along law as that, and note that while something is with in the law, many people may do X as an additional safety precaution. After all this is on the Internet and many will take this as the law that you can't have a loaded mag.

 

 

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I'll tell you this, regardless of the law, lots of cops think the law says it, as they have told me personally. A jury may go your way, but why chance it.

There is no requirement to transport your magazines unloaded in NJ. Some states consider loaded magazines a loaded weapon. I know of no case in NJ where someone, transporting a handgun in a legal manner, was arrested for having loaded magazines. You should err can err on the side of caution and not have your magazines loaded tnsporting in another state unless you are absolutely sure of the law in that state. You can also exercise more caution and carry your handgun, magazines, and ammo in 3 separate locked containers locked in your trunk. You decide how much extra caution you want to exercise.

I am picking up my Smith & Wesson M&P9 tonight and I have two questions as I am taking ownership of it. I know in NJ you have to transport ammo and firearm separately in locking compartments. Not true My question is can I leave ammo in the magazines Yes and keep the magazines separate from the gun while transporting it to and from the range? Yes I am keeping the gun in a small gun safe for the transportation in the trunk. Why

 

Thanks all.

 

Load the mags. Toss the gun in the trunk. Toss the loaded mags in along side the gun. PERFECTLY LEGAL. No case. No lock.

 

You were asking what is lawful right? Or were you asking what others do?

I am picking up my Smith & Wesson M&P9 tonight and I have two questions as I am taking ownership of it. I know in NJ you have to transport ammo and firearm separately in locking compartments. My question is can I leave ammo in the magazines and keep the magazines separate from the gun while transporting it to and from the range? I am keeping the gun in a small gun safe for the transportation in the trunk.

 

Thanks all.

Leave the Gun, Take the Conollie's - God Frather I,

Seriously, best not to keep bullets in mag - cop might bight you...

Also, FYI you may put your amo in unlocked bag and guns in unloked bag in your locked trunk when traveling to range as long as no access from passanger compartment.

Still waiting......

Still waiting......

 

For?

I put my guns in a bag in the back of my SUV. The bag does have a side compartment that I keep ammo in sometimes. The gun and ammo are in separate compartments. The compartments do not need to be locked, just fastened or zipped closed. Normally, I have too many guns and too much ammo to do this (this is a good thing). So..I keep my guns in the bag and the ammo in a ammo box so I can carry it to the range. You need something strong to carry lots of ammo.

Still waiting......

 

I know in NJ you have to transport ammo and firearm separately in locking compartments.

 

Sometimes just to live dangerously I load all my magazines, even the ones I'm not going to shoot that day, duct tape them to the outside of my guns and off I go. Perfectly legal.

 

Anyone want to show the law that prohibits the transportation of a loaded mag?? Please post what the charge would be, not "well it's a good idea to do something extra and not cause attention".

 

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hour and a half, hope you aren't holding your breathe.

Are you guys being hard on purpose? You live in NJ, what gives you the notion that something legal won't get you arrested? Talk to some cops, you will hear every possible twist in the "law", and this is one I heard from a lot of cops. It is almost irrelevant what the law is (and yes, you are correct, there is no explicit prohibition) it matter how much money you want to spend on lawyers, how much time it takes before you get your property back, etc.

No wonder NJ residents fear the Government.

 

I do not fear what I know is right. I follow the letter of the law, no further. The Government should fear the people.

first time I went to the range I got my ass chewed out by the range officer for having loaded mags, never did it again since... wouldn't want to chance it with a cop that doesn't know the laws, which are not all but many... there was a guy who got arrested on these forums for having a shot gun with a pistol grip, after many cops were called on the scene and no one new for sure the laws until the captain came... I think he still got arrested, and I think there was something else that caused him to get pulled over, like eating a stop sign. it was all thrown out of court If I remember correct, but stillI wouldn't do it, how hard can it be to just load up at the range? think of it as practice, which you should be doing anyway..

The question was asked "can I leave ammo in the magazines and keep the magazines separate from the gun while transporting it to and from the range?" simple answer, Yes. That is not being hard on purpose. It's stating a fact. I see 6 people who gave opinions on what they do out of fear. I once worried about that stuff but I'm a law abiding citizen who follows the law.

first time I went to the range I got my ass chewed out by the range officer for having loaded mags, never did it again since... wouldn't want to chance it with a cop that doesn't know the laws, which are not all but many... there was a guy who got arrested on these forums for having a shot gun with a pistol grip, after many cops were called on the scene and no one new for sure the laws until the captain came... I think he still got arrested, and I think there was something else that caused him to get pulled over, like eating a stop sign. it was all thrown out of court If I remember correct, but stillI wouldn't do it, how hard can it be to just load up at the range? think of it as practice, which you should be doing anyway..

 

The full truth came out about that guy. Seems he had the shotgun a little too accessible in his jeep if I remember correctly.

 

Some range officers like to chew people out. I don't shoot at those places.

No wonder NJ residents fear the Government.

 

I do not fear what I know is right. I follow the letter of the law, no further. The Government should fear the people.

 

It is not a matter of fearing the government, it is a matter of picking your fights. It is really hard to fight for liberty while in jail or when broke because you had to spend all your money on lawyers to prove your innocence.

i want to know why so many people think you always need a lawyer to go to court. provided its in a fastened case as per the law; print out a copy of the law, get fancy with a highlighter, ask to approach the bench, hand it to the judge. boom case closed you win. sure its an inconvenience but you have done no wrong.

i want to know why so many people think you always need a lawyer to go to court. provided its in a fastened case as per the law; print out a copy of the law, get fancy with a highlighter, ask to approach the bench, hand it to the judge. boom case closed you win. sure its an inconvenience but you have done no wrong.

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